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Rodgers Signing with Black n’ Gold

SteelerInLebanon said:
I seriously disagree with some of that. Quite a few of those nopes should be maybes at worst. CB, ILB and DL could be well on their way to being there on defense. On offense I think RB and TE may well get there and possibly line over the next couple years. They won't all get there but we have made good investments in all of them. TE, ILB and CB may be there this year.
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I live in a black and white world, it's either good enough or it isn't. I don't have time for wishy washy "maybe's", man! ;)
 
stillwright said:
You stated you didn't cherry pick stats. I simply compared Harris who everyone complained the reason he got 1000 yards was because of the number of carries. Everyone referred to his 4 yard average.

Rodgers threw a high number of times. His yards per pass was among the lowest of lows last season.

I personally thought it was a good comparison.

Sometimes cherry picking is delicious.😋 🤪
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Rodgers had a 6.67 YPA last year. Patrick Mahomes' YPA was 6.76, also "among the lowest of the low." So was Bo Nix's, which was actually even lower than AR at 6.66.

Mahomes was 6th in the league MVP vote. Nix was 3rd for offensive rookie of the year. Rodgers played for the Jets. People cherry-pick stats, but they shouldn't be interpreted in a vacuum.
 
MT~Forged said:
It can be argued, it may be very hard to do it, but you can if you want.
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I don't want, because it would be ludicrous.
MT~Forged said:
My question for you is this. HYPOTHETICALLY, if Rodgers gets you pick 20 in the 26 Draft, and Rudolph gets you pick 12, going forward what is better for the team?
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I think that the last time the Steelers had a pick at #12 or lower, they pissed it (and more draft capital, in fact) away on Devin Bush. Was that better for the team?
MT~Forged said:
Keep in mind these things
MANY say that neither is the answer going forward
The Money spent on Rodgers could go to other needs or carried forward to help next years cap
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Obviously, neither a guy who will turn 42 in December nor a guy with a career passer rating below 85 who turns 30 in July is the answer going forward.

However, Rodgers at a very reasonable price was the most viable answer for THIS season. You can either complain about it, or sit back and try to enjoy whatever happiness he can provide.
 
topseed said:
Rodgers had a 6.67 YPA last year. Patrick Mahomes' YPA was 6.76, also "among the lowest of the low." So was Bo Nix's, which was actually even lower than AR at 6.66.

Mahomes was 6th in the league MVP vote. Nix was 3rd for offensive rookie of the year. Rodgers played for the Jets. People cherry-pick stats, but they shouldn't be interpreted in a vacuum.
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Schlereth saying everyone is underestimating Rodgers by a ton...I agree.
 
topseed said:
Rodgers had a 6.67 YPA last year. Patrick Mahomes' YPA was 6.76, also "among the lowest of the low." So was Bo Nix's, which was actually even lower than AR at 6.66.

Mahomes was 6th in the league MVP vote. Nix was 3rd for offensive rookie of the year. Rodgers played for the Jets. People cherry-pick stats, but they shouldn't be interpreted in a vacuum.
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I just cherry picked a stat. Nothing more...nothing less.

All awards are a joke anymore. Add the MVP award in with pro bowls and all pros.
 
stillwright said:
I just cherry picked a stat. Nothing more...nothing less.

All awards are a joke anymore. Add the MVP award in with pro bowls and all pros.
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Those voted upon fan awards are just a gimmick to entice the fans for hands on. The fan vote counts for nothing.

The accolades of past that use to have meaning, no longer do. The Rog determines the outcome. Even the player vote counts very little, don’t fool yourself into thinking otherwise. (Helmet swinger is a VERY good example VS TJ Watt)



Salute the nation
 
Badcat said:
DK of DK sports did a break down by position that I really liked. He asked the question; Does the Steelers have a Superbowl level talent at these specific groups as a whole...

OL - Nope
QB - Yes
RB - Nope
WR - Nope
TE - Nope

DL - Nope
ILB - Nope
OLB - Yes
CB - Nope
Safety - Yes

That is a whole lot of "Nope", and that assessment is obviously based on last year outside of the Aaron Rogers acquirement.
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The premise was good, but based on these standards I'm not sure any team has more than 4-5 position groups with Super Bowl level talent. The Steelers have won with a terrible offensive line, teams have won with no-name RBs, you don't need a star TE or WR to win, etc. Oddly enough, QB is the one position the Steelers DON'T have Super Bowl-level talent and he says they do?
 
SteelerFan448 said:
The premise was good, but based on these standards I'm not sure any team has more than 4-5 position groups with Super Bowl level talent. The Steelers have won with a terrible offensive line, teams have won with no-name RBs, you don't need a star TE or WR to win, etc. Oddly enough, QB is the one position the Steelers DON'T have Super Bowl-level talent and he says they do?
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I’m sure DK is basing the QB position on the Aaaa-Ron of past.

None the less, our OL should be improved though there are big questions yet to be answered.

Our DL should be vastly improved but also realize they use the dumb-***-ed 2DL slightly over 60% of the time.

You and I know ow that what it all comes down to is the scheme. If Coach Tomlin truly means there will be change, then there is a possibility.

We both also know that the degree of change will reflect the degree of possibility.

Myself, even if the Tom-Lin invokes change, I realize it won’t be to a high degree of said change.




Salute the nation
 
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Badcat said:
How do you figure that? LB room isn't up to snuff, draft or bring in a free agent who greatly improves that group, right?
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If you live in black and white world and don't want a wishy washy maybe, drafting doesn't automatically improve that group. He might, and that's always the goal, but draft picks are a crap shoot, not a black and white solution.
 
Steelers War Room said:
If you live in black and white world and don't want a wishy washy maybe, drafting doesn't automatically improve that group. He might, and that's always the goal, but draft picks are a crap shoot, not a black and white solution.
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Ahhhh....you took my comment literally. Sorry, I was just messing with Steelerinlebanon in his wishy washy "maybes".

The whole list I wrote is all just a matter of perception and what I felt the position groups amounted to. Other people feel otherwise but in the end the Steelers either have a Super Bowl roster or they don't, and we only get to find that out in February 2026
 
Gildong Sack said:
Schlereth saying everyone is underestimating Rodgers by a ton...I agree.
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They're ALL ididots...One of the 2 most cerebral QB's ever, 4 freakin' MVP's...Just like Brady, he's gonna do some amazing things this year.

Can't wait to watch this Forum get all pissed because Rodgers succeeds...Most of the Forum is on record as he will fail...This will be fun
 
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SteveA said:
They're ALL ididots...One of the 2 most cerebral QB's ever, 4 freakin' MVP's...Just like Brady, he's gonna do some amazing things this year.

Can't wait to watch this Forum get all pissed because Rodgers succeeds...Most of the Forum is on record as he will fail...This will be fun
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I hope you are right.

If Tomlin doesn't embrace "change" I don't think you will be.
 
Rodgers is one of the 10 best quarterbacks to ever play the game. To have him play here even just one year, while we also have a rookie QB for him to teach, is at the very least an exciting prospect.
 
Badcat said:
Ahhhh....you took my comment literally. Sorry, I was just messing with Steelerinlebanon in his wishy washy "maybes".

The whole list I wrote is all just a matter of perception and what I felt the position groups amounted to. Other people feel otherwise but in the end the Steelers either have a Super Bowl roster or they don't, and we only get to find that out in February 2026
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In that case my apologies. Still pretty new to the board and haven't figured out all of the dynamics between the posters.
 
Steelers War Room said:
In that case my apologies. Still pretty new to the board and haven't figured out all of the dynamics between the posters.
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All good. Welcome aboard. Hope you like the conversations and look forward to hearing your opinions.
 
Drink IRON City said:
I’m sure DK is basing the QB position on the Aaaa-Ron of past.

None the less, our OL should be improved though there are big questions yet to be answered.

Our DL should be vastly improved but also realize they use the dumb-***-ed 2DL slightly over 60% of the time.

You and I know ow that what it all comes down to is the scheme. If Coach Tomlin truly means there will be change, then there is a possibility.

We both also know that the degree of change will reflect the degree of possibility.

Myself, even if the Tom-Lin invokes change, I realize it won’t be to a high degree of said change.
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I agree. I do think Rodgers is the best QB we've had since Ben and can win a playoff game if the supporting cast does its job. He just isn't the type of QB who will carry the team to wins anymore.

Completely agree with scheme as well. Defensively, there is way too much talent to have the lapses they had last year. The offense is a combination between scheme and being held back by QB play. If the Steelers can add a WR2, on paper they have better personnel than last year.
 
SteveA said:
They're ALL ididots...One of the 2 most cerebral QB's ever, 4 freakin' MVP's...Just like Brady, he's gonna do some amazing things this year.

Can't wait to watch this Forum get all pissed because Rodgers succeeds...Most of the Forum is on record as he will fail...This will be fun
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I 100% did not want Rodgers. But he is the guy now. Go Rodgers!
 
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