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Rodgers has a small fracture in left wrist

I saw and respected that post. I agree with the current Roman synopsis of more play. time will tell

I may have to go to my sports bar to watch actual game, do you get the game at your place?
Yup, I live in the South Hills of Pittsburgh. I can throw a rock and hit Terry Bradshaw's old house in South Fayette
 
One thing that is noticeable with Rodgers is his relationship(s) with the other quarterbacks. Especially Rudolph. Ben wouldn't give MR the time of day and the amount of not caring about his development was very palpable. It was different with his other backups because it's possible that he felt that the others were no threat to unseat him as a starter.

Watching the season with AR12 and the quarterbacks-especially MR is completely different. It was good to hear the ball busting during the player interviews this past week between AR12 and MR. Regardless of what happens with AR12 when the season is over, it will be a very important one for the development of not just MR but Howard and the other skill players around him. He has basically been the silent quarterbacks coach.
 
One thing that is noticeable with Rodgers is his relationship(s) with the other quarterbacks. Especially Rudolph. Ben wouldn't give MR the time of day and the amount of not caring about his development was very palpable. It was different with his other backups because it's possible that he felt that the others were no threat to unseat him as a starter.

Watching the season with AR12 and the quarterbacks-especially MR is completely different. It was good to hear the ball busting during the player interviews this past week between AR12 and MR. Regardless of what happens with AR12 when the season is over, it will be a very important one for the development of not just MR but Howard and the other skill players around him. He has basically been the silent quarterbacks coach.
Definitely good to hear they get along messing with each other, etc. Fans sometimes get lost on how important team chemistry is. Playing as a team not a bunch of individuals.
 
Again, so what? When you're talking about George Pickens specifically, who gives a shlt that Dallas has 5 losses? Their defense SUCKS. They gave up 24, 31, 30, 44, and 27 points in those losses, and 40 in the tie. I can look at those numbers and say that the offense (including Pickens who has performed excellently on that side of the ball) IS NOT THEIR PROBLEM. He already was under contract in Pittsburgh, and obviously wasn't coming back -- that's why it was stupid to trade him away at a position of need that is obviously lacking in playmakers.

And the Steelers' defense has ten more turnovers in ten games than Dallas does. You do the math.
The Steelers are in the bottom third on defense. George had a big night on Sunday. Or was that Monday?
 
Just commenting on the stupid to trade him away comment. Just disagree in general he just wasn’t a good chemistry fit for the team. I actually don’t miss his issues.
It's these guys' JOBS to get talented malcontents like Pickens in line. The Steelers knew what they were getting with George when they chose to draft him. Shouldn't a well-renowned "player's coach" making 16 million dollars a year be able to handle that?
 
It's these guys' JOBS to get talented malcontents like Pickens in line. The Steelers knew what they were getting with George when they chose to draft him. Shouldn't a well-renowned "player's coach" making 16 million dollars a year be able to handle that?
Hes a grown man. No one is getting him in line. Its Shades job to figure out what they can and cannot live with. Pickens was unhappy in Pittsburgh. They did what they could and moved on. They got damn near what they paid to get him. I can fault Tomlin for a lot of things. George Pickens is not one of them.
 
Hes a grown man. No one is getting him in line. Its Shades job to figure out what they can and cannot live with. Pickens was unhappy in Pittsburgh. They did what they could and moved on. They got damn near what they paid to get him. I can fault Tomlin for a lot of things. George Pickens is not one of them.
Bullshit.

They are all grown men. George's off-the-field and attitude issues were well-documented while he was in college. Tomlin and the front office made the conscious choice to draft Pickens despite those knowns. So don't tell me that Tomlin has ZERO responsibility for the abject failure of he and his staff to get the guy under control.
 
Bullshit.

They are all grown men. George's off-the-field and attitude issues were well-documented while he was in college. Tomlin and the front office made the conscious choice to draft Pickens despite those knowns. So don't tell me that Tomlin has ZERO responsibility for the abject failure of he and his staff to get the guy under control.
Really all they had to do was feed him the ball and that would’ve solved a lot of problems.
 
It's these guys' JOBS to get talented malcontents like Pickens in line. The Steelers knew what they were getting with George when they chose to draft him. Shouldn't a well-renowned "player's coach" making 16 million dollars a year be able to handle that?
Should be we know he can’t. So we don’t hit our head against the wall we know they can’t handle the heat in the kitchen…
 
Bullshit.

They are all grown men. George's off-the-field and attitude issues were well-documented while he was in college. Tomlin and the front office made the conscious choice to draft Pickens despite those knowns. So don't tell me that Tomlin has ZERO responsibility for the abject failure of he and his staff to get the guy under control.
Haha. Boom. You made my ****** point for me. Best accidental admission EVER. Your point was that WTF why did they trade George they got killed in the trade. Now you are saying yeah he is cancer. WHICH HE IS. So in essence they got three years out of him. For a second round and about 5-6 million dollars which is a ****** joke. They had a Corner that never played a down that they paid two million to. And they got a 3rd for Pickens. There is no ****** way a coach can get a real problem under control. Not a chance. Tomlin is right. Ill put up with you till I can replace you. And if you think Im a Tomlin guy think again and ask anyone here. But I do know about building a team and managing personalities. And for certain this ************ is unmanageable.
If Martavis Bryant played in this era of cannibis acceptance and they could have got him treatment and helped him with his mental health.....he could have been great. And he was equally talented. But Pickens is not a team guy......AT ALL. Wait till he gets paid. That will be a disaster.
 
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Rumor had it, at the top of the season, that the upcoming draft, in Pittsburgh, would be the draft we could hang our collective hats on for the "next Ben"...

Not gonna happen.

Now, the year after should be a QB rich draft with at least 4 blue chip QBs. Now for the curve ball...

With the oldest roster in the league and a boat load of picks in '26 - would it not be better to stockpile some of next year's picks to move up in '27???

I do not like the idea of C C Ron playing next week and Rudy is a great backup. Not sure about anointing young Howard just yet either...
I think there is going to be a few more teams looking for quarterback in 2027 than 2026, so I'm not sure stockpiling picks for that purpose is a great idea. TBH I don't think stockpiling picks in hopes of trading up to get a quarterback in a future draft is ever a good idea, as there are just way too many ifs, buts and maybes one year out. As you said rumour had it 2026 was going to be the draft to get a quarterback of the future, what makes you think the 2027 crop aren't also going to fizzle out in 2026? Where will Steelers be drafting, who else will be looking for quarterbacks and what draft picks will they have, will there be anybody wanting to trade down in 2027 and what will it take?

I only see two teams apart from Steelers potentially drafting QB high in 2026 - Las Vegas and New York Jets, whereas I could see as many as 5 or 6 in 2027. There are quite a few teams still assessing their 2024 and 2025 drafted quarterbacks (Atlanta, Cleveland, New Orleans, Minnesota), who probably won't be drafting quarterback early in 2026, but may be ready to move on in 2027 if their young quarterbacks aren't panning out by then. If Arizona and Miami are ready to move on from Murray and Tua, 2027 is when they can do so without copping hefty dead money, and the Rams will at some point be thinking about life after Stafford.

To be clear I am not advocating drafting a quarterback in 2026 if there isn't one there. If there isn't a quarterback worth the picks, I'd much rather the Steelers use the picks to build up the rest of the offence and get younger on defence, so whoever is quarterback has a good team around them, rather than putting the eggs in the 2027 quarterback basket.
 
I think there is going to be a few more teams looking for quarterback in 2027 than 2026, so I'm not sure stockpiling picks for that purpose is a great idea. TBH I don't think stockpiling picks in hopes of trading up to get a quarterback in a future draft is ever a good idea, as there are just way too many ifs, buts and maybes one year out. As you said rumour had it 2026 was going to be the draft to get a quarterback of the future, what makes you think the 2027 crop aren't also going to fizzle out in 2026? Where will Steelers be drafting, who else will be looking for quarterbacks and what draft picks will they have, will there be anybody wanting to trade down in 2027 and what will it take?

I only see two teams apart from Steelers potentially drafting QB high in 2026 - Las Vegas and New York Jets, whereas I could see as many as 5 or 6 in 2027. There are quite a few teams still assessing their 2024 and 2025 drafted quarterbacks (Atlanta, Cleveland, New Orleans, Minnesota), who probably won't be drafting quarterback early in 2026, but may be ready to move on in 2027 if their young quarterbacks aren't panning out by then. If Arizona and Miami are ready to move on from Murray and Tua, 2027 is when they can do so without copping hefty dead money, and the Rams will at some point be thinking about life after Stafford.

To be clear I am not advocating drafting a quarterback in 2026 if there isn't one there. If there isn't a quarterback worth the picks, I'd much rather the Steelers use the picks to build up the rest of the offence and get younger on defence, so whoever is quarterback has a good team around them, rather than putting the eggs in the 2027 quarterback basket.
Arch Manning finally looked the part today, er, yesterday...

As I stated before the season started, he'll need one more year to keep learning and sharpening his tools. The same goes for Ty Simpson. There are quite a few heavy hitters on 2027's list, but it's 5am and I'm not looking for them now.
 
Haha. Boom. You made my ****** point for me. Best accidental admission EVER. Your point was that WTF why did they trade George they got killed in the trade. Now you are saying yeah he is cancer. WHICH HE IS. So in essence they got three years out of him. For a second round and about 5-6 million dollars which is a ****** joke. They had a Corner that never played a down that they paid two million to. And they got a 3rd for Pickens. There is no ****** way a coach can get a real problem under control. Not a chance. Tomlin is right. Ill put up with you till I can replace you. And if you think Im a Tomlin guy think again and ask anyone here. But I do know about building a team and managing personalities. And for certain this ************ is unmanageable.
If Martavis Bryant played in this era of cannibis acceptance and they could have got him treatment and helped him with his mental health.....he could have been great. And he was equally talented. But Pickens is not a team guy......AT ALL. Wait till he gets paid. That will be a disaster.
Ummm....what? I didn't make any point for you, I didn't make any "accidental admission," and my point is certainly not that the Steelers "got killed in the trade." Never said Pickens was "cancer." Said that he had known issues in college, everybody knew it, and the Steelers still drafted him. Then they traded the guy when they needed him most. He's got the same attitude problems in Dallas that he had in Pittsburgh and Athens, yet he's second in the NFL in receiving yards.

WTF are you babbling about?
 
Ummm....what? I didn't make any point for you, I didn't make any "accidental admission," and my point is certainly not that the Steelers "got killed in the trade." Never said Pickens was "cancer." Said that he had known issues in college, everybody knew it, and the Steelers still drafted him. Then they traded the guy when they needed him most. He's got the same attitude problems in Dallas that he had in Pittsburgh and Athens, yet he's second in the NFL in receiving yards.

WTF are you babbling about?
I dont care if he's the greatest off all time. You can't win sweet **** all with a guy like that. Hes an idiot. Spend a first and get a guy with his talent and a good attitude if there is no QB available next spring and ut won't matter. You still got a third for that dipshit.
 
Ummm....what? I didn't make any point for you, I didn't make any "accidental admission," and my point is certainly not that the Steelers "got killed in the trade." Never said Pickens was "cancer." Said that he had known issues in college, everybody knew it, and the Steelers still drafted him. Then they traded the guy when they needed him most. He's got the same attitude problems in Dallas that he had in Pittsburgh and Athens, yet he's second in the NFL in receiving yards.

WTF are you babbling about?
I am not sure that he has the same issues. I think he has been on his best behavior. And who knows maybe he learned something in the move to a new team. He apparently didn’t learn better behavior with the Steelers.

His production is irrelevant as that isn’t why he was moved for the lack there of.
 
I dont care if he's the greatest off all time. You can't win sweet **** all with a guy like that. Hes an idiot. Spend a first and get a guy with his talent and a good attitude if there is no QB available next spring and ut won't matter. You still got a third for that dipshit.
The Cowboys very well might be winning "fuckall" if they had a good defense. But they don't. Trading away Micah Parsons in his prime certainly didn't help. Maybe he was a "cancer."
 
I am not sure that he has the same issues. I think he has been on his best behavior. And who knows maybe he learned something in the move to a new team. He apparently didn’t learn better behavior with the Steelers.

His production is irrelevant as that isn’t why he was moved for the lack there of.
Pickens doesn't have the same issues? Wait, so the cancer is in remission?

His production in Dallas is quite relevant, actually, because it demonstrates the kind of player Pickens can be on the field. And it's a damn shame that the Steelers couldn't foster that kind of output in Pittsburgh. Which, despite a certain poster trying to put words in my mouth, has been my main point from the jump.
 
I dont think he gets into off field trouble. I think hes a ****** headcase. He wasn't happy in Pittsburgh. He was petulant his entire past season. If they were changing the head coach.....maybe. But even at that hes already showing cracks in Dallas. Out till 5 am day before game say for beginning in a token way. Excessive celebration penalty and fine. They cannot throw him 30 million a year. I think they will regret.
 
Pickens doesn't have the same issues? Wait, so the cancer is in remission?

His production in Dallas is quite relevant, actually, because it demonstrates the kind of player Pickens can be on the field. And it's a damn shame that the Steelers couldn't foster that kind of output in Pittsburgh. Which, despite a certain poster trying to put words in my mouth, has been my main point from the jump.
Im saying he's talented. But you can't win nothing with the ABs, the Owen's, the Moss' players. You see it time and time again. Me first guys are ****** useless.
 
Pickens doesn't have the same issues? Wait, so the cancer is in remission?

His production in Dallas is quite relevant, actually, because it demonstrates the kind of player Pickens can be on the field. And it's a damn shame that the Steelers couldn't foster that kind of output in Pittsburgh. Which, despite a certain poster trying to put words in my mouth, has been my main point from the jump.
I disagree he wasn’t moved for lack of production. He was moved for what went on behind the scenes as well as what you and I could see.

Being on his best behavior = cancer in remission?

No more like slow moving cancer ready to break out at any given moment.

His production was already known capable so it is no shock to anyone what he is capable of.
 
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