Not sure what people watch

[slashsteel]

Funny thing to me is that only coaching is being blamed for this loss.

1. The PLAYERS had all off season and training camp to get in the defensive playbook and LEARN THE ******* PLAYS/CALLS. Apparently, as evidenced by the chinese fire drill we saw several times, they didn't do that well enough.
2. Scobee missed two FGs. What were the coaches supposed to do, run out on the field with surveyor's equipment and line the ball up perfectly for him?
3. DHB fails to make sure his feet are in bounds on a TD pass. Seems like a mental mistake by a player ... Should the coaches have had to remind him of something we all are taught from biddy league on up?
4. Our starting and reserve DBs failed to record even a single defensed pass.

Seems to me that at some point, no matter how much the coaches prepare them, no matter what the game plan, PLAYERS have to actually perform/execute. Ours didn't and the Cheats' did.

And no, this post is not to excuse the mistakes made by the coaches themselves. However, we've heard and dissected those mistakes over and over. At what point do the players get their fair share of the blame?

problem is their was a decent amount that performed fine

so I can't really buy into it was the players the players !

the players didn't

leave Boykin and Coates inactive and on the bench
put a outside corner in the slot
force a gadget play when momentum was going good
design the schematics inside the 20 on O or D
teach how to get off a WR pick play
force the under performing players to stay on the field

 

[steelhurt]

We didn't get handed our *** we simply lost the game. Once again and as I stated throughout the pre-season when most were touting the offense as this best in the NFL, I kept saying lets see if they've improved the red zone scoring. They have not and that is the first factor in why we lost, all the yards aside but if you can't punch it in then the yards are no consolation.
And to boot, no pun intended but the new kicker has to make those FG's if we are failing to punch it in. We have to come away with something there.

Next, some head scratching play calling with the fake play at the Pats 24 when we were rolling all over them. Why the hell would you feel compelled to break the rhythm with that call that has the potential for disaster. Simply continue doing what you were doing. Then DHB has got to no where his feet are in the end zone and that's an easy layup for 6.

Back to play calling. What the hell kind of play calling was that when we had 1'st and goal and ended back on the 5? I blame Hailey and Cool Shades. The former for the bad play calling and the later for not stepping in.

Finally we have the defense and my badge of futility goes to Butler whom I thought demonstrated complete confusion with his defense. Gronk going uncovered, 10 men on the field, people out of position and looking confused. I'm just wondering if this change may not have been for the worse. This defense all summer starters and backups has looked terrible and again on Thursday. It can't be that all 11 guys are that bad all of the time. I'm thinking its the scheme and the utter confusion of guys not knowing what the hell is going on. I blame Butler here and will be watching closely next week.

 

[DBS1970]

When the other team doubles the score on you you got your *** handed to you. Garbage time TDs don't count.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

problem is their was a decent amount that performed fine

so I can't really buy into it was the players the players !

the players didn't

leave Boykin and Coates inactive and on the bench
put a outside corner in the slot
force a gadget play when momentum was going good
design the schematics inside the 20 on O or D
teach how to get off a WR pick play
force the under performing players to stay on the field

See, the thing you might have missed about my post was that I acknowledged coaching errors. Just tired of hearing that it was all on the coaches. The players screwed up plenty in this game and their screw ups (other than the Haley momentum killer) had a direct impact on the outcome. Scobee and DHB alone were responsible for 10 pts that weren't put on the board for the good guys.

 

[MTC]

The Steelers had the advantage in all stats except the most important, scoring.

A little more preparation and organization on defense, and even moderately coherent play calling on offense, and we'd have walked out of there with a win. Unfortunately, their coaches play chess, while ours play checkers.

Our team can move that ball at will until they reach the red zone

 

[slashsteel]

See, the thing you might have missed about my post was that I acknowledged coaching errors. Just tired of hearing that it was all on the coaches. The players screwed up plenty in this game and their screw ups (other than the Haley momentum killer) had a direct impact on the outcome. Scobee and DHB alone were responsible for 10 pts that weren't put on the board for the good guys.

13 points

but yes good point

 

[SteelBuckeye]

13 points

but yes good point

Gave DHB a 3 pt credit because of the FG ...

 

[TDX27]

When we beat the Cheaters in the playoffs, all the talking heads will blame it on an off day by the Cheaters but, it won't matter because we will be one step closer to the big prize.

 

[blitzburghv5]

I have said this before, but the Pats only needed to score 28 points. They pretty much shut it down. If we had scored 40 I bet the Pats would have scored 50. Bottom line is our "30 point per game" offense scored 14. You can blame miscues, poor play calling etc etc, but they still scored 14 points against what people say is a bad defense. The defense was like Keystone cops out there, missing tackles and blowing coverages. We did not totally get blown out, but I would consider it at least a light spanking.

With all the criticism and labeling from the presses and media about Brady and the Pats being called cheaters, you think they pulled back ? I don't think so....this team would've loaded 60 pts on us if they could....they couldn't. Its not like they didn't want to. This and the Colts game would be statement games especially for Marsha. I don't think there was any "pulling back".

 

[Xc944]

Ben has a new show after he retires 20 to 20

 

[blitzburghv5]

When the other team doubles the score on you you got your *** handed to you. Garbage time TDs don't count.

14-7 is *** handling ?

21-10 ?

Now 42-21 or 63-31 is an *** whipping. But its not always a score that defines the asswhooping either. Statistical domination, physical domination come into play. The Pats didn't dominate us...they gameplanned against a weakness. They couldn't stop us from moving the ball at all. Dropped passes by Wheaton, poor awareness by DHB and rookie-like decisions on stupid INTs by Ben aided in this loss.

If we play NE again in the post season, im confident we will beat em......whether they cheat or not. The gap is closing

 

[blitzburghv5]

Our team can move that ball at will until they reach the red zone

That's been a problem under three different OC's (Whiz, Arians and now Haley) and 2 HCs.

 

[antdrewjosh]

Only one constant between them all

 

[SteelerSask2]

I don't blame Ben for short yardage problem. You gotta be able to get in from the one with a run game. The play action on first down was stupid. Run three times. They were not penetrating into the backfield. When he got stopped they just didn't get enough surge. More of a stalemate.

 

[mightyguru]

Should've doesn't win games. You gotta take it to them. Tomlins team doesn't do that.

WTF are you on about? Read.

 

[mightyguru]

When the other team doubles the score on you you got your *** handed to you. Garbage time TDs don't count.

Tell the bettors and bookies that line. smh.

 

[antdrewjosh]

Like I said in the game thread I don't like Johnson as the goal line back. Definitely should be Williams IMO. More versatile and experienced.

 

[DBS1970]

14-7 is *** handling ?

21-10 ?

Now 42-21 or 63-31 is an *** whipping. But its not always a score that defines the asswhooping either. Statistical domination, physical domination come into play. The Pats didn't dominate us...they gameplanned against a weakness. They couldn't stop us from moving the ball at all. Dropped passes by Wheaton, poor awareness by DHB and rookie-like decisions on stupid INTs by Ben aided in this loss.

If we play NE again in the post season, im confident we will beat em......whether they cheat or not. The gap is closing

The difference between victory and an *** kicking is 1 point. When the other team has you by 14 points for over half the game and you can only manage a garbage score in the last couple of seconds to pull within 7 with ZERO hope of victory you got your *** handed to you. That's what aggravated me the most about it, NE had us handled the whole game.

 

[Rod Farva]

I think the Pats**** were their typical average early season selves. The Steelers were in the game, despite a horrible defensive performance. If Scobee makes those two FGs and Heyward-Bey doesn't step out of bounds for no reason, that's 10 points right there. And don't tell me the Pats**** would've played differently. At least on offense, they are always trying to score. They don't "let up". They played a little differently on D, I suppose, on that last drive. Statistically, the Steelers competed. If they can get even a little better on defense as the year goes on (play Boykin!) and the big offensive guys stay healthy and away from weed, they might be a decent team.

That'd be 13 not 10 but I agree......opening night, national tv, SB chumps with a large amount of (misplaced) anger making them feel they had something to prove....they'd have scored 60 if they could have.

I also hated how they used so many guys on defense. .

Meh.....10 aint that many......

I have said this before, but the Pats only needed to score 28 points. They pretty much shut it down. If we had scored 40 I bet the Pats would have scored 50. Bottom line is our "30 point per game" offense scored 14. You can blame miscues, poor play calling etc etc, but they still scored 14 points against what people say is a bad defense. The defense was like Keystone cops out there, missing tackles and blowing coverages. We did not totally get blown out, but I would consider it at least a light spanking.

The *'s never, that's n-e-v-e-r shy away from running up scores. It's not in belicheat's dna to pull back.

4. Our starting and reserve DBs failed to record even a single defensed pass.

Wow...........didn't realize that. Sad.....

 

[thumbring]

10 because we did get a FG on that drive.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

It really is comical to me to watch people attempt to use the Stats to say that colossal goat **** of a game that the Steelers played was not an *** whipping.

The Pats** have a stupid-good record at home under Belicheat though. They beat everyone at home.

Yeah buddy they really moved the ball between the 20s. Couldn't punch it into the end zone or kick field goals though. And hey they had a time of possession stat locked up.

That's the Steelers' usual game though. Situation normal.

But it really didn't take New England that long to score on our defense what with leaving Gronkoski completely uncovered and all.

The Pats** are a well-coached, if cheating, team that rarely makes mistakes though. The Steelers often make mistakes on both sides of the ball and ST's. Again, situation normal.

I didn't expect to win. I look at the fact that we didn't get beat by 30+ and held them to less than 40 as an improvement. How bad is that?

The Pats didn't dominate us...they gameplanned against a weakness. They couldn't stop us from moving the ball at all. Dropped passes by Wheaton, poor awareness by DHB and rookie-like decisions on stupid INTs by Ben aided in this loss.

I'm thinking if it isn't raining DHB keeps his feet in bounds but it is what it is. The field was wet for the Pats** too.

 

[Rod Farva]

10 because we did get a FG on that drive.

Ah, yeah....I stand corrected.

 

[bermudasteel]

I think the Pats**** were their typical average early season selves. The Steelers were in the game, despite a horrible defensive performance. If Scobee makes those two FGs and Heyward-Bey doesn't step out of bounds for no reason, that's 10 points right there. And don't tell me the Pats**** would've played differently. At least on offense, they are always trying to score. They don't "let up". They played a little differently on D, I suppose, on that last drive. Statistically, the Steelers competed. If they can get even a little better on defense as the year goes on (play Boykin!) and the big offensive guys stay healthy and away from weed, they might be a decent team.

They left 13 points on the field. Two missed FG's and the TD that DHB stepped out because he doesn't trust his extremities.

I would also add, to this mute dispute, that the arbitrary line shift by the *'s that caused our OL to react and we took 3 instead of the 7 changed the game too. Let us not forget about the "mysterious" holding penalty that should have penalized the *'s 1st and 20 but they somehow were only penalized two yards for the holding...

Anyway, on to week 2 - SF is coming to town...

 

[south dakota STEEL]

Anyway, on to week 2 - SF is coming to town...

We RIDE!

 

[Vader]

They left 13 points on the field. Two missed FG's and the TD that DHB stepped out because he doesn't trust his extremities.

I would also add, to this mute dispute, that the arbitrary line shift by the *'s that caused our OL to react and we took 3 instead of the 7 changed the game too. Let us not forget about the "mysterious" holding penalty that should have penalized the *'s 1st and 20 but they somehow were only penalized two yards for the holding...

Anyway, on to week 2 - SF is coming to town...

Yes let's play the "what if" game. What if Brady hits those two wide open WRs for TDs? Then the game is a total blow out. See how easy that is? Missed FGs etc.. happen every game.

Also the word is moot not mute.