Narratives

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Yeah no doubt another Tomlin nut hugger. Lol

He’s a lot like you, let’s call you guys Tomlin Nut Hugger Light-which is anyone who gives cover to him after 9 years of playoff futility and looks down their nose at people fed up with him, cool gif tho…you really showed me with that

 

[DesertSteel]

Thanks for clarifying on what you mean by hater, you were painting with pretty broad brush when you throw out “hater” buy that’s what Tomlin nut huggers do when they don’t have a real defense for him

That depends, how good of an artist are you? What does 9 years of playoff futility look like in pictures…now I’m curious

It's not a pretty picture? Lol

 

[Hypocycloids]

He’s a lot like you, let’s call you guys Tomlin Nut Hugger Light-which is anyone who gives cover to him after 9 years of playoff futility and looks down their nose at people fed up with him, cool gif tho…you really showed me with that

That pretty much proves that I did.

Everyone here is just as aware and frustrated about the years of playoff futility as you are.

But that doesn’t make those that don’t fall in line with your speculations, theories and accusations “Tomlin nut huggers.”

I am not angered by your opinions, rather I find them entertaining and to be taken with a grain of salt.
I expect you people playing the “nut hugger” card to have the same attitude toward those that try to take a more rational approach

Again, my take on Tomlin is that whatever he is doing isn’t working.
Eighteen years at the helm is enough and it’s time for a change.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

That pretty much proves that I did.

Everyone here is just as aware and frustrated about the years of playoff futility as you are.

But that doesn’t make those that don’t fall in line with your speculations, theories and accusations “Tomlin nut huggers.”

I am not angered by your opinions, rather I find them entertaining and to be taken with a grain of salt.
I expect you people playing the “nut hugger” card to have the same attitude toward those that try to take a more rational approach

Again, my take on Tomlin is that whatever he is doing isn’t working.
Eighteen years at the helm is enough and it’s time for a change.

Kind of like how I find your arrogant gifs entertaining in the place of a retort…so cool

I can sum up your “more rational approach” to be yeah we just got embarrassed again but you all you haters can’t criticize Tomlin for this minute aspect of it. Or I know you just got pissed on again but don’t claim the piss stunk, that’s not fair! It smacks of arrogance and all it does is give a failed coach cover.

I hope your gifs and 10 cent wit have entertained and comforted you thru these past 9 of playoff futility, there’s a really good chance that’s going to half to sustain you much longer so enjoy yourself

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

I am not angered by your opinions, rather I find them entertaining and to be taken with a grain of salt.
I expect you people playing the “nut hugger” card to have the same attitude toward those that try to take a more rational approach

I’m waiting for your “rational approach” to analyzing that game.

Hey @diver tell us how sometimes players need to make plays to defend that putrid offense ALL NIGHT, including 0 points in the 2nd half

What is your “narrative” from this game???

You two should half to watch that game on a loop twice with your eyelids taped open before you post any more Tomlin apologies again

 

[Punxsutawney]

They haven't only lost, but have been basically blown out in seven straight playoff games.

Not sure how Tomlin can somehow be competent enough to never have a losing season, yet appear overwhelmed in every playoff appearance over the past decade.

 

[Hines field]

They haven't only lost, but have been basically blown out in seven straight playoff games.

Not sure how Tomlin can somehow be competent enough to never have a losing season, yet appear overwhelmed in every playoff appearance over the past decade.

Because he played against the bungles and browns. That was generally 3 to 4 wins a year. Pick up 4 to 5 games out of the next 13 and there is a non losing season

 

[Punxsutawney]

Because he played against the bungles and browns. That was generally 3 to 4 wins a year. Pick up 4 to 5 games out of the next 13 and there is a non losing season

I don't believe they've won in Cleveland since Ben retired.

They lost in both Cleveland and Cincinnati this year and still won 10 games.

Tomlin has to have been partaking in some sort of voodoo **** behind the scenes to ensure these winning seasons.

The mojo just seems to wear off around the middle of January for some reason.

 

[Hines field]

I don't believe they've won in Cleveland since Ben retired.

They lost in both Cleveland and Cincinnati this year and still won 10 games.

Tomlin has to have been partaking in some sort of voodoo **** behind the scenes to ensure these winning seasons.

The mojo just seems to wear off around the middle of January for some reason.

Not specifically talking about this year. Over Tomlin’s career. That is why he never had a losing season. Our division was incredibly weak with 2 sub par teams with the bengals and browns.

 

[slashsteel]

Not specifically talking about this year. Over Tomlin’s career. That is why he never had a losing season. Our division was incredibly weak with 2 sub par teams with the bengals and browns.

Yep he benefited from having two horrible teams in the same division.

 

[Punxsutawney]

Not specifically talking about this year. Over Tomlin’s career. That is why he never had a losing season. Our division was incredibly weak with 2 sub par teams with the bengals and browns.

Fair enough, though the Bengals had been decent for many of those years under Marvin Lewis.

I'd argue that Ben was the daddy of the Browns and Bengals during most of Tomlin's time as coach, not Tomlin.

The post-Ben era reflects that.

 

[slashsteel]

Fair enough, though the Bengals had been decent for many of those years under Marvin Lewis.

I'd argue that Ben was the daddy of the Browns and Bengals during most of Tomlin's time as coach, not Tomlin.

The post-Ben era reflects that.

Ben was elite . Even with that elite talent they only accomplished something significant with Cowher’s blueprint. As that faded so did everything else.

 

[Aussie_Steeler]

I don't believe they've won in Cleveland since Ben retired.

They lost in both Cleveland and Cincinnati this year and still won 10 games.

Tomlin has to have been partaking in some sort of voodoo **** behind the scenes to ensure these winning seasons.

The mojo just seems to wear off around the middle of January for some reason.

It's because they are playing better teams in January. I think one of the reasons they have the never a losing season and playoff futility history is partly the type of players they fill the team with. Veterans who were once very good who are on the downside of their careers. They are still good enough to beat most middling to bad teams, but when up against quality teams, especially with great defences, they are outschemed and out-physicaled.

 

[KentuckySteeler]

I have often been accused of being a Tomlin apologist. But I have never tried to defend his record and have stated a number of times he shouldn't have this job due to the facts...his record. It is some of the narratives I object to. So with that in mind, two narratives that really bother me. One is that the performance of the team on the field is mostly due to the coaching. I object to that because I have a hard time understanding how guys who don't play are more responsible than the guys that do. The second is that the Steelers have bad coaches across the board. It goes hand in hand.

According to DK, PFF ranks the Steelers OL as the 8th best in the league. Williamson has said PFF isn't as bad a resource as a lot of people think. Anyway, those that think it is mostly coaches and the Steeler coaches stink, is Pat Meyer all of the sudden a good football coach? Is the improvement of the OL mostly due to Pat Meyer? If you say it is mostly coaches when they are playing poorly, doesn't it have to be the same when they are playing well?

Our HC blew a kiss to the crowd after a kicker missed a chip shot FG lol. The culture is an absolute embarrassment. I’m done until he’s gone. Life is too short.

 

[diver]

Our HC blew a kiss to the crowd after a kicker missed a chip shot FG lol. The culture is an absolute embarrassment. I’m done until he’s gone. Life is too short.

I do apologize to people. Sitting there watching the game very calmly, I realized the passion I used to have for the Steelers is gone. Not because of what they have done or haven't done, but just life. It just isn't as important anymore. But sometimes I forget what it was like when I was in my 20s and 30s and the Steelers were an escape from the pressures of young kids, the oil bill, work and all that. They had to win, and it was devastating when they lost. I forget that.

 

[WindyCitySteel]

Not specifically talking about this year. Over Tomlin’s career. That is why he never had a losing season. Our division was incredibly weak with 2 sub par teams with the bengals and browns.

He's had division competition in both Cincy and Baltimore, got lucky this year with the QB injuries. Got lucky with Mahomes and the Chiefs taking a step back. Got lucky with the first round draw and home game. Got lucky with CJ Stroud playing like Don Knotts for a half.

And still got blown out in a playoff game.

 

[Confluence]

I do apologize to people. Sitting there watching the game very calmly, I realized the passion I used to have for the Steelers is gone. Not because of what they have done or haven't done, but just life. It just isn't as important anymore. But sometimes I forget what it was like when I was in my 20s and 30s and the Steelers were an escape from the pressures of young kids, the oil bill, work and all that. They had to win, and it was devastating when they lost. I forget that.

Thank you for apologizing for your "look at me" thread. Glad you ended it.

 

[diver]

Thank you for apologizing for your "look at me" thread. Glad you ended it.

Aw, knock it off. Anytime anybody posts it is look at me. Anytime we share an opinion it's look at me.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Everyone here is just as aware and frustrated about the years of playoff futility as you are.

Not everyone, some have been Tomlinized

There are still some here that defend Tomlin and his standard. The number is dwindling with each stacked year of mediocre futility

But the nut huggers and nut hugger lite are barely even endangered much less extinct

If you still defend Tomlin at this point then you are part of the standard and mediocrity participation trophy culture

 

[Punxsutawney]

Thank you for apologizing for your "look at me" thread. Glad you ended it.

"It's OK. None of it matters in the grand scheme of life."

That is what Tomlin apologizing has been reduced to.

 

[madinsomniac]

Not specifically talking about this year. Over Tomlin’s career. That is why he never had a losing season. Our division was incredibly weak with 2 sub par teams with the bengals and browns.

There have been seasons when the division has been extremely good... a couple years back they had one of the best seasons as a whole division in NFL history despite playing a very tough schedule... so while that sometimes is the case, it isn't the driving factor

 

[madinsomniac]

So lets make things clear here

1. Players opinions dont matter.. at all... nearly every fired head coach has an army of players standing behind them supporting them... because the biggest trait of a head coach is their cult like ability to unify a team ... its very rare for players to turn on coaches

2. No team in modern NFL history has stuck with a guy like Tomlin who had this long of a failure streak and then won a SB.

3. Tomlins teams pull out flukey wins, but are statistically bad to mediocre in various areas.. he has no single strength to point to as to why you should keep him save for regular season wins... which is a pretty low value stat

 

[DesertSteel]

Seriously, does anyone think that there's more than a 10% chance of Tomlin being gone? That's the definition of insanity.

 

[slashsteel]

Seriously, does anyone think that there's more than a 10% chance of Tomlin being gone? That's the definition of insanity.

I think it hedges on if they do anything with his contract. If they don’t then perhaps he doesn’t wish to be under that kind of pressure. Not sure beyond that anything changes. Except my approach.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

I do apologize to people. Sitting there watching the game very calmly, I realized the passion I used to have for the Steelers is gone. Not because of what they have done or haven't done, but just life. It just isn't as important anymore. But sometimes I forget what it was like when I was in my 20s and 30s and the Steelers were an escape from the pressures of young kids, the oil bill, work and all that. They had to win, and it was devastating when they lost. I forget that.

But it’s still important for you to come on here and piss on other people’s frustration who are still passionate-got it, what a guy you are

So an entire game of inept offense is primarily on the players according the to you right? All those plays were players not making plays not an inept offensive philosophy and play calling, right?

For 9 years it’s year after year of players not making plays and that’s why poor Tomlin hasn’t won a playoff game, according to you, right?

My god Mike Tomlin is the most unlucky coach in the history of sport!