Muth - "We have no hot routes"

[SteelerSask2]

Dont forget Butler. Butler was the up and comer behind LeBeau. Steelers had to make him promises to keep him around and from leaving to another team.

I guess they never promised him he would call defense. 🤣

 

[slashsteel]

Now do the same thing with playoff winning percentage.

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And bingo was his name OH

 

[slashsteel]

Let me add...

Coach	Seasons as Head Coach​	Seasons with a Playoff Win​	% of Seasons with a Playoff Win​
Chuck Noll	23​	8​	35%​
Bill Cowher	15​	8​	53%​
Mike Tomlin	16​	4​	25%​

This should headline every Tomlin thread.

As what truly matters.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Let me add...

Coach	Seasons as Head Coach​	Seasons with a Playoff Win​	% of Seasons with a Playoff Win​
Chuck Noll	23​	8​	35%​
Bill Cowher	15​	8​	53%​
Mike Tomlin	16​	4​	25%​

Thanks 448, combined with mine, you can see the coaching ability.

A-N-D

NO, Tomlin is not better than Chuck.


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[Fiji Mariner]

Yeah I think there should be transparency about the decision but obviously there will not be. To me if I'm a 16 year head coach and the OC is foisted on me by the owner that's a problem but then again I'm sure Tomlin appreciates the cover Canada will provide.

Canada is a Tomlin guy he willing shielded from fans/ownership
Make no mistake about it Mikey wants his buddy here, not just for cover either

It’s what ya get when ya hire friends, it gets tricky to part ways

 

[SteelerSask2]

Thanks 448, combined with mine, you can see the coaching ability.

A-N-D

NO, Tomlin is not better than Chuck.


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Yeah got into a friendly argument debate with a friend who likes Tomlin. I said you know whoever wins the SB this season will have the same amount of playoff wins this year as Tomlin since 2010. He thought I made that up.

 

[xjx]

They probably promised Butler a lot of stuff to have him stay. Looks like he got ripped off. By Tomlin? By Rooney?

 

[Drink IRON City]

Yeah got into a friendly argument debate with a friend who likes Tomlin. I said you know whoever wins the SB this season will have the same amount of playoff wins this year as Tomlin since 2010. He thought I made that up.

Your friend is a media driven sheeple FAN (believes what the media says). He listens / watches the media too much and takes them for gospel.

Just watching the game can tell you, especially watching the last three times we’ve actually been in the playoffs….


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[Drink IRON City]

They probably promised Butler a lot of stuff to have him stay. Looks like he got ripped off. By Tomlin? By Rooney?

I think Butler had been around long enough to into his DC promotion with EYES WIDE OPEN.

I think all internal promotions know what to expect.

Flores may have been hood-winked, but he was an outside hire off the streets.



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[stuntmanmike]

No hot reads is just pure arrogance by the coordinator “you’re going to do it my way so I‘ll get all the credit!!!“ that’s a real problem not only on the steeler staff but also in the nfl… we pay for tickets to watch players not coaches!! And the ego freaks like tomlin and Canada hate that! Tomlin won’t hire great assistants because they might take away from his glory and Canada is just an out and out boob trying to implement a fake phony college offense in the pros. With the guys we have on the offensive line and a back the size and speed of Harris they should just be able to fall forward and gain yards but of course tomlin and Canada have them running toward the sidelines! I’ve never seen a team run and throw toward the sidelines as much as the Steelers!! Run The old steeler trap how about that?!?! No we can’t do that because it runs toward the goal line!!! Can’t do that!! No we got to sit through Canada’s bullshite! I’m all for keeping Canada as long as tomlin goes out door with him when we do fire him because we will be firing him he’s a total jackass!!

 

[Drink IRON City]

No hot reads is just pure arrogance by the coordinator “you’re going to do it my way so I‘ll get all the credit!!!“ that’s a real problem not only on the steeler staff but also in the nfl… we pay for tickets to watch players not coaches!! And the ego freaks like tomlin and Canada hate that! Tomlin won’t hire great assistants because they might take away from his glory and Canada is just an out and out boob trying to implement a fake phony college offense in the pros. With the guys we have on the offensive line and a back the size and speed of Harris they should just be able to fall forward and gain yards but of course tomlin and Canada have them running toward the sidelines! I’ve never seen a team run and throw toward the sidelines as much as the Steelers!! Run The old steeler trap how about that?!?! No we can’t do that because it runs toward the goal line!!! Can’t do that!! No we got to sit through Canada’s bullshite! I’m all for keeping Canada as long as tomlin goes out door with him when we do fire him because we will be firing him he’s a total jackass!!

Agree to some degree, But Coach Tomlin is currently here through 24' season. There is talk of a 2 yr. extension, putting him here through 26'.

I think he has taken us as far as he can, while we need new blood, I doubt it will happen soon.

100% agree on O'Canada.


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[Stainless]

Wedding Crashers had Hot Routes, Red 7 & Blue 17. Assuming it passes muster, maybe Tomlin will add a viewing to new hire onboarding.

 

[Lunar]

Agree to some degree, But Coach Tomlin is currently here through 24' season. There is talk of a 2 yr. extension, putting him here through 26'.

I think he has taken us as far as he can, while we need new blood, I doubt it will happen soon.

100% agree on O'Canada.


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"Relax, " said the night man
"We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave"

 

[Drink IRON City]

"Relax, " said the night man
"We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave"

Welcome to the Hotel California.


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[Lunar]

Welcome to the Hotel California.


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Hotel Canada.

 

[Steelmann]

“we have no hot routes” - translation - > “Matt Canada is a dumb ****”

I guess this is the thing. I don’t really feel like joining in the MT bashing thread, but I just can’t help it when I read this type of statement.
You blame Canada, but where does the buck start and stop? Obviously the head coach would have to sign off on this or instruct it.

 

[SojournerSteel]

Thanks 448, combined with mine, you can see the coaching ability.

A-N-D

NO, Tomlin is not better than Chuck.


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That's even more ugly considering the garbage Noll and Cowher had at QB for long stretches. Tomlin is very lucky the pieces were all in place because the last 12 years have been Marvin 2.0 with a shiny hood ornament.

 

[stillwright]

Thanks 448, combined with mine, you can see the coaching ability.

A-N-D

NO, Tomlin is not better than Chuck.


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Wait a second.....Tomlin has never had a losing season!!!!!

 

[stillwright]

I guess this is the thing. I don’t really feel like joining in the MT bashing thread, but I just can’t help it when I read this type of statement.
You blame Canada, but where does the buck start and stop? Obviously the head coach would have to sign off on this or instruct it.

Thrown in the ownership then also.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Hotel Canada.

I should have included my friends from the NORTH.!!!

100% sure their Hotels are better than Cali’s.



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[Drink IRON City]

That's even more ugly considering the garbage Noll and Cowher had at QB for long stretches. Tomlin is very lucky the pieces were all in place because the last 12 years have been Marvin 2.0 with a shiny hood ornament.

AND

That argument of Cowher’s guys & Tomlin’s guys…….. is narrowed due to the fact that Tomlin’s PO record decreases as Cowher’s guys left.

I don’t care about the argument PRO or CON, just pointing out what has spilled out of the pudding box.


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[SojournerSteel]

AND

That argument of Cowher’s guys & Tomlin’s guys…….. is narrowed due to the fact that Tomlin’s PO record decreases as Cowher’s guys left.

I don’t care about the argument PRO or CON, just pointing out what has spilled out of the pudding box.


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4 out of 16 seasons is pretty ugly. Noll managed to win playoff games in 2 of his last 12 seasons and his very improbable playoff wins in Denver and Houston top anything Tomlin has done since 2011.

Heck, even the spirited loss against the Chargers in '82 and in the Orange Bowl in '84 vs All World Marino were way better losses than the humiliations Tomlin suffered at home vs Bortles and Mayfield -- not to mention the play 10 years off the ball suicide pact again at Gillette.

 

[MTC]

4 out of 16 seasons is pretty ugly. Noll managed to win playoff games in 2 of his last 12 seasons and his very improbable playoff wins in Denver and Houston top anything Tomlin has done since 2011.

Heck, even the spirited loss against the Chargers in '82 and in the Orange Bowl in '84 vs All World Marino were way better losses than the humiliations Tomlin suffered at home vs Bortles and Mayfield -- not to mention the play 10 years off the ball suicide pact again at Gillette.

Lol. Bortles

 

[BLITZ]

Lol I 100% bet that 1/3 of the posters in this thread did not know what a hot route was 1 week ago.

 

[Stryker]

Vince Vaughn had hot routes in Wedding Crashers and it didn't help him out at all...