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More evidence that fans are overly emotional and fickle

blitzburghv5

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Well, Mike McCarthy is now being called out by fans in Green Bay....calling for his job.

THis is another case where emotions override logic. There are fanbases that have rabid fans....loyal fans...and then there are those within that fan base contigency that will not accept losing under any circumstance. Those fans expect perfection or near perfection.

Mike coached a wonderful game yesterday...team responded well but didnt execute in the closing minutes....its a choke job, sure...had it in the bag. Its the worst way to lose a game....quite different than Indy who didnt stand a chance after the second period. Their fate was sealed long before the final whistle. GB could taste victory and the opportunity to play for another Lombardi. If youre a GB fan, youre heart is ripped. But the emotion of such a loss is too great and to now call for the job of a man who helped this team to a remarkable season, after a rough start is a bit extreme. Hearing now of how McCarthy isnt heralded for his in-game adjustments or poor challenge record...and get this, even after yesterday how he didnt really have the team PREPARED ENOUGH... (SOUNDS FAMILIAR AROUND HERE DONT IT ??) But thats how some fans are...it always has to end well or it must be rebuilt.

Cincy fans want Lewis fired, Rats fans often grumble about John Harbaugh often resorting to calling for his job even after a recent championship. Overall theres success, but there are times a team just meets a better team. Maybe we should all just rotate coaches. Change..........change it all after a loss...........change it ..just for the sake of change. But...it could be worse...they could all be Cleveland or Oakland. They embrace change...in fact they seem to be somewhat addicted to the process of making changes

Thats not how you run a franchise...fans are fickle...
 
We could trade Cool Shades for McCarthy. Everybody happy. Problem solved.
 
Rage has to go somewhere after a bad loss. That's usually where it goes. If #86 catches the onside kick, guess what? We love Mike McCarthy! Mike McCarthy is a great coach because we are going to the SB! Rage over a loss usually brings out infantile reactions in fans.
 
We could trade Cool Shades for McCarthy. Everybody happy. Problem solved.

I would love to see your response if it would have been Tomlin making the decisions McCarthy did yesterday. You need to get off the sunglass's as a criteria in evaluating coaching-that horse is dead.
 
I would love to see your response if it would have been Tomlin making the decisions McCarthy did yesterday. You need to get off the sunglass's as a criteria in evaluating coaching-that horse is dead.
Good to see someone with a brain here.
 
Calling for his job is over reaction, but I do understand the frustration. In my opinion he made two huge gaffes. One they played not to lose instead of trying to take the thing. Two, not calling a timeout when Seattle declared its short kick formation was inexcusable. You need to have your best people in the best position for the recovery. Clearly that guy was not their best person. Nelson snatches that ball easy.
 
The thing I have liked about Tomlin lately is that he's been taking those kill shots and putting teams away. That is a huge improvement. Watching McCarthy resembled Cowher playing 'Not to Lose' in the 4th quarter
 
The thing I have liked about Tomlin lately is that he's been taking those kill shots and putting teams away. That is a huge improvement. Watching McCarthy resembled Cowher playing 'Not to Lose' in the 4th quarter

.......yeah I liked the one and done that showed improvement.

I would take McCarthy any day of the week over Tomlin.

For so many reasons that we have dead horse beat to death.
 
Calling for his job is over reaction, but I do understand the frustration. In my opinion he made two huge gaffes. One they played not to lose instead of trying to take the thing. Two, not calling a timeout when Seattle declared its short kick formation was inexcusable. You need to have your best people in the best position for the recovery. Clearly that guy was not their best person. Nelson snatches that ball easy.

Oh my goodness I had a long debate with someone on this board who argued that a coach should never take a timeout in such a circumstance. The guy's logic was that the team doing the on-side kick benefits from the timeout much more than the return team.
 
Calling for his job is over reaction, but I do understand the frustration. In my opinion he made two huge gaffes. One they played not to lose instead of trying to take the thing. Two, not calling a timeout when Seattle declared its short kick formation was inexcusable. You need to have your best people in the best position for the recovery. Clearly that guy was not their best person. Nelson snatches that ball easy.

the guy was not supposed to be grabbing for the ball...he was there to block so Nelson could grab the ball..he tried doing more than his job and it cost his team.
 
I love you burgundy.

I'm quick that way. I'll be here all week. Try the veal and don't forget to tip the waitresses.

I would love to see your response if it would have been Tomlin making the decisions McCarthy did yesterday. You need to get off the sunglass's as a criteria in evaluating coaching-that horse is dead.

Shoot, I didn't even mention that Mike McCarthy is from Pittsburgh. The Yinzers would make that trade in a heartbeat. :p

Regardless, I think that Seattle has a better chance of beating the Pats* in the SB. Which is the most important thing, their inability to win a post-Spygate SB and the humiliation of the Pats*, Belicheat, Brady, and their ******* bandwagon fan base who didn't even know that Boston had a football team until 2001. Think big picture.
 
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I would love to see your response if it would have been Tomlin making the decisions McCarthy did yesterday.

So you believe a Mike Tomlin coached team can go into Seattle with Ben nursing a calf injury that greatly reduces his ability to get outside the pocket, pick off Wilson four times, run up a 16-0 lead, and have a 19-7 lead with 2:45 left in the game?

And what McCarthy decisions led to the overtime loss? They tried to run out the clock and couldn't. They were limited in the passing game due to Rogers' calf injury. Seattle's defense is boss. They muffed a freaking onside kick ... do you think McCarthy decided it would be a good idea to muff the kick?
 
I would love to see your response if it would have been Tomlin making the decisions McCarthy did yesterday. You need to get off the sunglass's as a criteria in evaluating coaching-that horse is dead.

The sunglasses are just a visible trait. What Burgundy and I and many of those like us dislike about Mr Tomlin is that he is not a very good coach. He seems to vacillate between improvement and mediocrity and that is the reason we are critical.
 
That game is not on McCarthy....if anyone thinks that then they are dumb and stupid. Two plays lost that game....the onside kick recovery and the inexcusable two point conversion that put Seattle up by 3. That ball was the biggest wounded duck I have seen in years and to let that reach the receivers hands with two defenders close by made me say WTH was that??? Coaches cannot do it all out there....players have to make plays and the Packers did not make them at the end of the game.
 
The Packers can take some solace from this lose, knowing some kids are running around playing soccer in the hats and shirts they would have worn after the game.
 
I think turttle ball was a mistake too, stick to your guns and move the chains with your elite QB and your talented WRs, but you can't blame the coach on that onside kick
 
I think turttle ball was a mistake too, stick to your guns and move the chains with your elite QB and your talented WRs, but you can't blame the coach on that onside kick

Where is this myth originating that Green Bay was moving the ball well before the 4th quarter??

They scored 19 going into the 4th only because they forced FOUR TURNOVERS, including 2 very deep in Seattle territority.

Seattle's defense is so good, and Green Bay unable to overcome that D, that the Packers scored a grand total of 6 points off the four turnovers.

Repeat - the Pack scored 6 freaking points off 4 turnovers. But for those turnovers, the Packers put up a whopping 13 points. I just don't understand why anybody believes that McCarthy's team "put the brakes on the offense." The Seattle defense handled the Packers' offense, as evidenced by the fact that Rogers had all of 142 yards passing before the final drive.

Repeat - he had 142 yards passing in the first 58 minutes.

I think Rogers had 142 yards passing in the first 2 minutes against the Steelers in SB XLV.
 
Where is this myth originating that Green Bay was moving the ball well before the 4th quarter??

They scored 19 going into the 4th only because they forced FOUR TURNOVERS, including 2 very deep in Seattle territority.

Seattle's defense is so good, and Green Bay unable to overcome that D, that the Packers scored a grand total of 6 points off the four turnovers.

Repeat - the Pack scored 6 freaking points off 4 turnovers. But for those turnovers, the Packers put up a whopping 13 points. I just don't understand why anybody believes that McCarthy's team "put the brakes on the offense." The Seattle defense handled the Packers' offense, as evidenced by the fact that Rogers had all of 142 yards passing before the final drive.

Repeat - he had 142 yards passing in the first 58 minutes.

I think Rogers had 142 yards passing in the first 2 minutes against the Steelers in SB XLV.

good analysis, still, the final point is the same. Can't blame the coach on that onside kick mistake
 
And all this just proves that coaching doesn't have as much of a impact as most fans here think it does. Its 95% determined by players. So if anyone wants to point fingers after a loss they should start there. Fans over react all the time.
 
Coaches cannot do it all out there....players have to make plays and the Packers did not make them at the end of the game.

How many times has this been said over and over and repeated. But a lot here still believe in that magic coach controller.
 
Oh my goodness I had a long debate with someone on this board who argued that a coach should never take a timeout in such a circumstance. The guy's logic was that the team doing the on-side kick benefits from the timeout much more than the return team.
his logic is wrong, unless they some how guess you will call the time out and use reverse psychology. They come out in their formation, which favors their kicker and most aggressive short kick off men. You answer with your best hands people to that side. If they change at least they are going away from what they want. It is like a defensive timeout at the end of a basketball game when they are trying to set up an inbound play.
 
It wasn't McCarthy's fault that the player reaching for the ball on the on sides kick failed to do his job. Someone mentioned he was there to block and that it was Jordy Nelson who was supposed to pull the ball in. You better believe it was and you could see the look of total surprise on Nelson's face too. Of course it was the coach's fault so lets fire him.

I just spent the last 2-1/2 years working in delightful GB and those fans are crazier than we are. First thing that entered my mind after the loss was oh boy look out McCarthy. They'll come to their senses after the shock wears off. Look, they had the game won and just blew it.
 
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