Mediocre Mike and the Mavens of Mundane

[Superman]

I will start off by saying that Mike has been able to communicate with the players in ways that get some free agents to come here, whom otherwise may not have. No, i do not have specific examples, but some players have said they want to play for Mike or that he was the reason they came here.

Obviously to increase the number of wins (by one) on their career marks.

Mike came here billed as some up and coming defensive genius. we were told that he'd keep LeBeau on to learn from and inject his own defensive philosophies, thus making Blitzburgh even more detailed, intricate and dramatic. I've not seen that happen since LeBeau left.

Offensively, Mike inherited talent that included a first ballot HOF QB, a HOF WR and a very, very good RB who could drive defensive coordinators crazy. Sure, the OL was patched up along the way with bandaids and gauze, and that should have been addressed more. Though some of that likely falls on the slumped shoulders of Kevin Colbert. I'd also lean to the idea that maybe Ben was so good at doing what he did that he didn't think they needed to invest premium picks in the OL (but that's just my opinion).

Since Ben retired, there's been a premium paid to the defense. Ben retired 2022. That next draft, we took Kenny Pickett. In a draft that was said to have lackluster QB talent, we took a QB in R1. Most likely due to not wanting to miss out another Pitt QB who went on to have a highly successful career in the NFL, but wasn't of the same talent level as Marino.

Due to that, we shot ourselves in the foot and missed out on a shut down CB in Trent McDuffie (taken the next pick), and an All-Pro OL in Tyler Smith taken two picks later. As always, though, hindsight is 20/20. I mean, we were also flirting with Malik Willis (who was exhibiting strong character traits we tend to swoon over). But that draft shows a lot about how we are today.

Pickett - Raiders backup QB currently showing a journeyman career arc
Pickens - traded this off-season and is blossoming under a dynamic offense
Leal - bouncing on and off PS currently
CA3 - a guy who should be a slot receiver is our #2 WR at times
Co Heyward - drafted on name recognition, and makes some good plays and some bonehead plays
Mark Robinson - made the roster, then was cut and is back I guess
Oladokun - cut and is now collecting a check from the Chiefs PS

Pickens is the only noteworthy addition, and that is due to him playing elsewhere. the rest are JAGs.

The 2023 draft was Khan and Tomlin's baby. Decent enough thus far with Broderick Jones showing growth signs at LT, JPJ collecting yellow hankies. Benton's decent. Darnell is finally progressing, but our offense doesn't give him enough opportunites. Herbig is coming along... Trice needs to find a new career and Spencer Anderson is producing.

2024 brought in Fautanu, our next decades long center in Frazier, two Wilsons (one is decent, the other is a ghost), McCormick and a DL whom many have forgotten as well as a guy who's career has unfortunately ended (Watts).

Thus - two drafts with Tomlin and Khan controlling the direction of the team. And here we are ... just keeping our eyebrows above water. I will suggest the roster is insanely talented... but is being absolutely wasted with **** defensive schemes and a reigned in offense.

THAT is Tomlin's responsibility. He's getting the guys he needs or wants, but is again failing to do anything with them.

Mike will refuse to see the neon gold writing on the wall and continue to bash his head against it.

Time for Mike to go was last season, when we could have brought in Ben Johnson. The same guy Mike lost to Sunday, who was able to make halftime adjustments to Mike's schemes and "philosophy".

 

[Drink IRON City]

I will start off by saying that Mike has been able to communicate with the players in ways that get some free agents to come here, whom otherwise may not have. No, i do not have specific examples, but some players have said they want to play for Mike or that he was the reason they came here.

Obviously to increase the number of wins (by one) on their career marks.

Mike came here billed as some up and coming defensive genius. we were told that he'd keep LeBeau on to learn from and inject his own defensive philosophies, thus making Blitzburgh even more detailed, intricate and dramatic. I've not seen that happen since LeBeau left.

Offensively, Mike inherited talent that included a first ballot HOF QB, a HOF WR and a very, very good RB who could drive defensive coordinators crazy. Sure, the OL was patched up along the way with bandaids and gauze, and that should have been addressed more. Though some of that likely falls on the slumped shoulders of Kevin Colbert. I'd also lean to the idea that maybe Ben was so good at doing what he did that he didn't think they needed to invest premium picks in the OL (but that's just my opinion).

Since Ben retired, there's been a premium paid to the defense. Ben retired 2022. That next draft, we took Kenny Pickett. In a draft that was said to have lackluster QB talent, we took a QB in R1. Most likely due to not wanting to miss out another Pitt QB who went on to have a highly successful career in the NFL, but wasn't of the same talent level as Marino.

Due to that, we shot ourselves in the foot and missed out on a shut down CB in Trent McDuffie (taken the next pick), and an All-Pro OL in Tyler Smith taken two picks later. As always, though, hindsight is 20/20. I mean, we were also flirting with Malik Willis (who was exhibiting strong character traits we tend to swoon over). But that draft shows a lot about how we are today.

Pickett - Raiders backup QB currently showing a journeyman career arc
Pickens - traded this off-season and is blossoming under a dynamic offense
Leal - bouncing on and off PS currently
CA3 - a guy who should be a slot receiver is our #2 WR at times
Co Heyward - drafted on name recognition, and makes some good plays and some bonehead plays
Mark Robinson - made the roster, then was cut and is back I guess
Oladokun - cut and is now collecting a check from the Chiefs PS

Pickens is the only noteworthy addition, and that is due to him playing elsewhere. the rest are JAGs.

The 2023 draft was Khan and Tomlin's baby. Decent enough thus far with Broderick Jones showing growth signs at LT, JPJ collecting yellow hankies. Benton's decent. Darnell is finally progressing, but our offense doesn't give him enough opportunites. Herbig is coming along... Trice needs to find a new career and Spencer Anderson is producing.

2024 brought in Fautanu, our next decades long center in Frazier, two Wilsons (one is decent, the other is a ghost), McCormick and a DL whom many have forgotten as well as a guy who's career has unfortunately ended (Watts).

Thus - two drafts with Tomlin and Khan controlling the direction of the team. And here we are ... just keeping our eyebrows above water. I will suggest the roster is insanely talented... but is being absolutely wasted with **** defensive schemes and a reigned in offense.

THAT is Tomlin's responsibility. He's getting the guys he needs or wants, but is again failing to do anything with them.

Mike will refuse to see the neon gold writing on the wall and continue to bash his head against it.

Time for Mike to go was last season, when we could have brought in Ben Johnson. The same guy Mike lost to Sunday, who was able to make halftime adjustments to Mike's schemes and "philosophy".

You nailed it to the degree of geniousness…………. Lunar’s 34 stone trailer park girlfriend will be over to congratulate you in a daring way……………… give it a try……. Ist’s good……… a friend told me !!!!




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[Superman]

You nailed it to the degree of geniousness…………. Lunar’s 34 stone trailer park girlfriend will be over to congratulate you in a daring way……………… give it a try……. Ist’s good……… a friend told me !!!!




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i've moved and have no forwarding address.

 

[Djfan]

Tomlin is stale, they should have moved on after Ben retired

Thr Rooneys pissed away Bens HOF career by leaving Tomlin there. Imagine what would have been had a good coach been there.

 

[madinsomniac]

They should have moved on long before Ben retired.

Fine, but typically a head coach getting to a SB but losing gives a 4-5 cushion of safety to that coach. We went to a SB in 2010. In 2014 we won the Division, in 2015 we won a wild card game. In 2016 we went to a AFC CG. That resume would buy a coach until 2019 on any team, even if they sucked for 3 years... in 2029 the starting qb went down, that would have given him 2020.
In 2020 we win the Division.
You arent firing him then
In 2021 as he forced Ben into retirement, blaming the offensive crapfest on the qb, not the scheme...
that was the first time there were real trade Tomlin rumors around the Falcons

There would be more in later years with the Whatever the Redskins are calling themselves these days at least two different years, the bears last year, an unnamed team, and no the Giants...

Ample opportunities to cut ties, gain assets, and have stats back up your decision.

People thinking they would have cut ties after the Bronco game are delusional... teams just dont move on from coaches with the resume he had at that point... but there were several natural breaking points since 2020...

 

[ZonaBurgh]

I'm just glad that I'm old enough to remember sports in the city of Pittsburgh in the '70's.

 

[Drink IRON City]

You know Vincent ,when it comes right down to it,this is the comment that stings.

I may not be from Pittsburgh,but I grew up in a blue collar family. As a 11 year old in 1971 was drawn to the Steel City work hard, lunch box identity the Steelers organization portrayed. Toothless Jack Lambert striking fear at the opposition. Mean Joe walking down the tunnel with a little kid,with you knowing he could take on any and all players. Mel Blount ( my favorite all time)
Knocking the **** out of anyone he faced. Hines frigging Ward taking on anyone. James Harrison….the strongest meanest MF’er to don the B&G. I could go on and on. These guys gave their blood ,sweat and tears for the Steelers. And the fans could relate.

Now I know everything is not always wine and roses. I can handle rebuilds. I can handle that not every draft choice and FA signing is not going to work out. What I can’t handle is the complacency,the lack of fire,the lack of preparation, the absolute bull-**** I hear after every game about how we have to do this and have to do that,and yet it’s the same old **** year after year.

Like everyone and there dog said before the game yesterday. Run,run,run. Their LB’s are out. Throw down the middle. Their LB’s are out. I put out a graphic a day or so before the game about Minnesota having success against Caleb by blitzing him 67% of the time. What did we end up doing?

But I’m getting off track here. The Brand. The Big Bad Steelers of yesteryear. The team used to be intimidating. Give it their all. Win lose or draw…..you were in a dog fight. Opponents used to dread coming into our Stadium. Now they look forward to it. We ain’t scaring nobody. What’s our brand? Our little dump off behind the line of scrimmage or 2-3 yards downfield?
3rd and 15? Throw for 6?

We play pu ssy football. We don’t live in our fears. Mike Tomlin and his word salad, even worse because he lets it happen,Mr Rooney have totally ruined the Teams reputation. The Brand. Years and years it took to make this Brand. No wonder all the retired Players are speaking out.

Best ****-ing post I’ve read on this topic in a long time, I thank you dearly… SIR.

I, as well as others feel this same way. Our traction pulled out from under our feet and still told we are on solid ground.

I’m sure Arty 2 has heard the noise, has seen the statistics, and now ALL I’m wondering is what or when is the final straw.

Could this collapse of a season be it…………. NOTE: The season has to play out before we can call it a collapse.

Who decided on the extension? Did HCMT go in and say hey, I need to extend my contract (knowing he can see the inevitable and hope to cash in). If it was Rooney 2, then that was not a very smart business decision made by what some call a good business man.

There’s a reason the Mean Joe Green Coke Cola commercial is still rated the #1 SB commercial all time, but with the pussification of the STEELERS franchise, that may succumb to other factions.

The noise is mounting, I’m sure Art 2 and those around him are talking and concerned. If “HOME” crowd fans can get a chant going, Tomlin’s team is failing miserably the same “coach” way………. Just maybe.!!!!


There are several names brought up be others way more qualified than myself, that could be at minimal the same HC but more like better than current HC.

Just remember that those who are speaking out are being much more kind than what their true feelings are due to respect of the past Rooney’s and team culture.

If any once Steelers player would speak unconditionally,……… they would definitely attach the current regime very hard.


As long as Tomlin remains, this team will go nowhere and diminish further down the rabbit hole.

It’s way beyond replacing a Coordinator or two.




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