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I meant a nightmare for opposing teams.
Le’Veon Bell Should Report Today or Tomorrow
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Next years tag would be worth 25mil which we won’t be giving him so essentially he will be a free agent or we would put the transition tag on him which I don’t see happening either now that Conner has shown what he is capable of. They will allocate that money elsewhere now.
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Again if he sits out the whole season he didn't fulfill his obligations for this season so how does he get the third franchise tag? If he comes back for the last 6 games yes.
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Not sure how they will use Bell, but if you force teams to have to prepare for both Conner and Bell the rest of the season,
the Steelers have an advantage.
the Steelers have an advantage.
I’m going off what the article says and according to the collective bargaining agreement...
‘A source confirmed to The Athletic that Bell is now contemplating whether or not he will show up by the Nov. 13 franchise tag deadline based on newly learned information from the collective bargaining agreement that would allow him to be deemed as a third-year franchise player in 2019 rather than to revert to the second, even if he doesn’t sign the tag this season.’
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You do realize that wedge busting is illegal now - been that way for 3 years now...
his smart move (for him) would be to just sit this season out.
why come back for such little change when he can take a season, get his body in peak condition then sign somewhere in the off-season ***under the transition tag, no doubt*** ?
if he were to come back now, get his $850k for the remainder of the regular season, and possibly get hurt, he's damaged goods in the off-season. he needs to also consider his injuries have been fluke, but did occur and can occur again. no doubt if he signs now, he's placed on the exempt list and doesnt collect two paychecks. he may as well sit out the whole season.
I’m guessing this what he ultimately ends up doing. I don’t think we’d get the full dynamic Le’Veon if he does play anyhow.
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The problem is placing your bet that the 2nd Tag won't be voided for not showing up. There is no clear definition either way, but would you bank your decision on a hypothetical? If he's wrong and holds out, he's back to square ******* one next year, which is a complete failure of his agent. If they're right, and he qualifies for the 3rd tag, The Steelers could still possibly tag him.
At $25M, $14.4 from this year pays toward it, and he'd only cost $10.6M in actual money. If that value can be turned into 2 first round draft picks, you take it.
At $25M, $14.4 from this year pays toward it, and he'd only cost $10.6M in actual money. If that value can be turned into 2 first round draft picks, you take it.
if he doesn't sign his contract, then the Steelers could essentially say this next contract is his second franchise tag, pointing to an unsigned franchise contract for this season.
though his agent, the obvious brainiac of this tweedle-dee tweedle-dum duo, won't see it that way.
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He will report next Tuesday and Steelers will likely find a way to use him when he appears ready.
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Cope correct me if am wrong but after reading through this horribly written policy it seems to me the compensation would be a 1 and 3 not 2 1's. So confusing.
If i was interpreting the cba id say that the fact that it repeatedly refers to the value of the players last contract means that for most things if the player sits out all season and never signs a contract tender its as if that season never happened rights wise...
now there is an interpretation that the team uses the franchise rights extention so its cumulative on times used by the team, but im not sure its clear....
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Now the fool has been spotted at a Pgh gym.
I'll let you know when I care.
http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...rn-jaguars-week-11/1r864bld2qs2i1hwdgjjhxlh97
I'll let you know when I care.
http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...rn-jaguars-week-11/1r864bld2qs2i1hwdgjjhxlh97
Use him as the deep threat, make him run go routes every play
The NFLPA will argue it as a 3rd tag, not as a nul 2nd's tag.
According to article 10, section 2 subsection ai:
So at least it's in writing.
That is definitely the perspective the league will take, and it's my interpretation as well. NFLPA will argue the amount of times the FT was used to up the value.
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This is a great point. What if he gets suspended for positive drug test? He’d be suspended a year so would he have to wait until 2020 to test free agency or could the Steelers state he didn’t fulfill his 2018 season requirements, reinstate him the end of 2019 and then tag him at the 14.5 million for 2020?
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Nope next one he gets suspended for 4 games since he loopholed his way out of the test he missed... he didn’t fail it, he claimed he got the message late, and he did take the test, just a day late, which merits a suspension...
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Ya know, the fans here seem to have been brain-washed quite a bit on Bell.
I mean if we're crowning Conner's ***, after half of one damn season, i ask you, tell me why didn't you crown Dri Archer's ***? He had a pre-season.
There is some major league smack talk goin on here after like, what, 8 games against the shittiest of teams: 2 Browns, a Shitcinnati, Falcons and a Bucaneer! I mean what-the-**** people? Why would you lionize one guy who's yet to prove anything and turn on another guy so goddamn quickly? Bell has been an all-pro for years now. He's proven. I get that his value would be diminished because he smokes ganga but.. what in the hell?!
I mean if we're crowning Conner's ***, after half of one damn season, i ask you, tell me why didn't you crown Dri Archer's ***? He had a pre-season.
There is some major league smack talk goin on here after like, what, 8 games against the shittiest of teams: 2 Browns, a Shitcinnati, Falcons and a Bucaneer! I mean what-the-**** people? Why would you lionize one guy who's yet to prove anything and turn on another guy so goddamn quickly? Bell has been an all-pro for years now. He's proven. I get that his value would be diminished because he smokes ganga but.. what in the hell?!
Uhhh did you compare James Conner to Dri Archer??? I didn’t read anymore after that.
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Cope there is subsequent language about this that seem to limit the compensation in this instance. It seem he is limitied in how he can be designated as a franchise player and lowers his compensation.
The relevant line :
If such a player is redesignated as a Franchise Player for the League Year following the League Year in which he does not play, the player may be designated only under Section 2(a)(i) above, except that Draft Choice Compensation of only one first round draft selection and one third round draft selection shall be made with respect to such player in the event he signs with the New Club.
Full text for context:
Section 15. Signing Period for Franchise Players:
(a) In the event that a player who is designated and tendered as a Franchise Player has not signed a Player Contract with a Club by the Tuesday following the tenth week of the regular season, at 4:00pm New York time, the player shall be prohibited from playing football in the NFL for the remainder of that League Year, absent a showing to the Impartial Arbitrator of extreme Club or extreme personal hardship. The determination of the Impartial Arbitrator shall be made within five days of the application, and shall consider all information relating to such hardship submitted by such date. The determination of the Impartial Arbitrator shall be final and binding upon all parties.
(c) If any Franchise Player does not play in the NFL in a League Year, his Prior Team shall have the right to designate such player as a Franchise Player or a Transition Player the following League Year, if such designation is otherwise available to the Team, except that the applicable Tender must be made and any 120% Tender shall be measured from the Player’s Prior Year Salary. If such a player is redesignated as a Franchise Player for the League Year following the League Year in which he does not play, the player may be designated only under Section 2(a)(i) above, except that Draft Choice Compensation of only one first round draft selection and one third round draft selection shall be made with respect to such player in the event he signs with the New Club. If such a player is designated as a Franchise Player for a third time, the terms of Section 2(b) above shall apply. If a Franchise Player who has sufficient Accrued Seasons to become an Unrestricted Free Agent is not designated as a Franchise Player or Transition Player for any League Year immediately following a League Year in which he does not play, then on the first day of that League Year, the player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent and is completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club is completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period.
The relevant line :
If such a player is redesignated as a Franchise Player for the League Year following the League Year in which he does not play, the player may be designated only under Section 2(a)(i) above, except that Draft Choice Compensation of only one first round draft selection and one third round draft selection shall be made with respect to such player in the event he signs with the New Club.
Full text for context:
Section 15. Signing Period for Franchise Players:
(a) In the event that a player who is designated and tendered as a Franchise Player has not signed a Player Contract with a Club by the Tuesday following the tenth week of the regular season, at 4:00pm New York time, the player shall be prohibited from playing football in the NFL for the remainder of that League Year, absent a showing to the Impartial Arbitrator of extreme Club or extreme personal hardship. The determination of the Impartial Arbitrator shall be made within five days of the application, and shall consider all information relating to such hardship submitted by such date. The determination of the Impartial Arbitrator shall be final and binding upon all parties.
(c) If any Franchise Player does not play in the NFL in a League Year, his Prior Team shall have the right to designate such player as a Franchise Player or a Transition Player the following League Year, if such designation is otherwise available to the Team, except that the applicable Tender must be made and any 120% Tender shall be measured from the Player’s Prior Year Salary. If such a player is redesignated as a Franchise Player for the League Year following the League Year in which he does not play, the player may be designated only under Section 2(a)(i) above, except that Draft Choice Compensation of only one first round draft selection and one third round draft selection shall be made with respect to such player in the event he signs with the New Club. If such a player is designated as a Franchise Player for a third time, the terms of Section 2(b) above shall apply. If a Franchise Player who has sufficient Accrued Seasons to become an Unrestricted Free Agent is not designated as a Franchise Player or Transition Player for any League Year immediately following a League Year in which he does not play, then on the first day of that League Year, the player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent and is completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club is completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period.
I don't know about Crowning anyone. It's pretty clear and by pretty clear I mean completely obvious that Bell and the Steelers are done with each other. Now going into the season I felt the Steelers would need to spend a 1 or a 2 on a RB next year. Barring an injury I don't feel that way anymore. Do you?