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Kovacevic: How are the Steelers doing this? ‘Everything starts with Coach Tomlin’ ?

TOMLIN is doing a hell of a job this season. EXCUSE me if I'm a little cautious in moving forward to crowning him all time greatest.

He is 24th All time in total wins by an NFL Coach.....He is ALSO 16th All-Time in winning percentage

Maybe not the greatest, but history is saying he may well be known as one of the top 10 NFL Coaches of All-Time.......You know what whiners? He is damn good...
 
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Took our D from dogshit to top 10 in 12 weeks.

Indeed, I'd say it's more like a top 5 D currently.

Since Week 3, the #Steelers rank 1st in the league in takeaways (28), 1st in QB hits (78), 1st in passes defended (65), 1st in forced fumbles (13), 1st in fumble recoveries (13), 2nd in INTs (15), 2nd in sacks (38) and tied for 3rd in defensive TDs (3).
 
LMAO!!!!!
Look up AB's #s without Ben. How's Bell doing without Ben? Did Ben make up that injury? The guy plays through everything if possible.
Was it Ben's decision to let AB stay in a townhouse at Latrobe rather than on campus? Did you not see Ben tell AB and the other WR's "let's go, coach is here" while AB was facebook live in the locker room? Ben made AB throw that furniture? Ben made AB act like a total *** in Oakland too? Damn Ben has some crazy voodoo doll **** on AB.
Top 10 QB of all-time, shows no urgency? The defense gave up 5 4th quarter leads last year, two of them were double digit leads. If Ben were healthy we have homefield right now, oh wait Tomlin doesn't try to play good defense when Ben is in there.

The answer to all of your questions is yes, obviously.
 
To be fair the O is ranked 28th. So if you give props for the D you have to give deductions for the O struggling.

And before someone says b b but injuries. Tombert picked the depth including not bringing in a vet QB to backup Ben.

Not that I don't agree with Butlin doing a good job on D, they have.
 
agenda driven?? complete and utter dogshit from this website's biggest Tomlin sack-rider. Give me a ******* break, no one on here is wanting Tomlin gone for the hell of it. If you can't see his MANY deficiencies over a body of work extending past a decade worth of time, then that's on your blind ***.

If you can't see any positives over a decade of excellence, I can't help you with your delusions.
 
He is 24th All time in total wins by an NFL Coach.....He is ALSO 16th All-Time in winning percentage

Maybe not the greatest, but history is saying he may well be known as one of the top 10 NFL Coaches of All-Time.......You know what whiners? He is damn good...

Surely you must mean top ten in some weekly fan poll. [heavy sarcasm]


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Love how everyone wants to blame everyone for AB’s behavior except AB. He’s a grown man, and he was going to do what he did. Tomlin nor Ben we’re changing that, just like Brady, Belichick, Gruden, nor Carr had any control.


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Who the heck is “Everyone “. Most of the adults on here who accept responsibility for their own actions certainly blamed AB’s actions for AB.
This Steeler from India person has a problem with Big Ben. He surely does not speak for “ Everyone “
But each to their own I guess.
 
Who the heck is “Everyone “. Most of the adults on here who accept responsibility for their own actions certainly blamed AB’s actions for AB.
This Steeler from India person has a problem with Big Ben. He surely does not speak for “ Everyone “
But each to their own I guess.

Everyone is pretty a pretty broad brush, but I have heard quite a few people say that Ben was responsible for running AB off or that Tomlin should have “contained” him. Neither is true. These folks never lay the blame squarely at AB’s feet. Are you suggesting you haven’t heard those two arguments?


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He is 24th All time in total wins by an NFL Coach.....He is ALSO 16th All-Time in winning percentage

Maybe not the greatest, but history is saying he may well be known as one of the top 10 NFL Coaches of All-Time.......You know what whiners? He is damn good...

Devils advocate here... before I start i am not actually insinuating that Tomlins situation is the same as Dan Bylsma... but....

Dan bylsma for the Pens took over and immediately won a stanley cup... but as he installed his own system and got his own players, tons of people pointed out severe flaws in his x’s and o’s and team construction... He set tons of records for regular season wins
 
There is 2 sides to that 4 of our losses have been to the 4 best teams in the league. Baltimore, New England , San Fran and Seattle. The only bad loss was the first one to the Browns. He has done a great job this year but I finally lean toward the we could use a change at the HC position.

Gee, that's kind of what's been happening to Tomlin in the playoffs lately, isn't it? Consistently losing to the good teams in the league? 6 losses in his last 9 postseason games...and 2 of the 3 wins he did manage were over a pair of the very worst quarterbacks in the history of the league to start a playoff game (AJ McCarron and Matt Moore).

None of that matters, though, 'cuz Tomlin Rulz, and the Steelers keep stackin' wins over the likes of Andy Dalton, Brian Hoyer, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Ryan Finley.

Nuthuggers gonna hug.
 
Everyone is pretty a pretty broad brush, but I have heard quite a few people say that Ben was responsible for running AB off or that Tomlin should have “contained” him. Neither is true. These folks never lay the blame squarely at AB’s feet. Are you suggesting you haven’t heard those two arguments?


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Of course I have. I just consider that one percent of people idiotic. There will always be a few. AB was his own worst enemy. I think 99% of us realize that.
 
When they are losing it’s always because of Colbert but when they win it’s because of Tomlin lol
 
Gee, that's kind of what's been happening to Tomlin in the playoffs lately, isn't it? Consistently losing to the good teams in the league? 6 losses in his last 9 postseason games...and 2 of the 3 wins he did manage were over a pair of the very worst quarterbacks in the history of the league to start a playoff game (AJ McCarron and Matt Moore).

None of that matters, though, 'cuz Tomlin Rulz, and the Steelers keep stackin' wins over the likes of Andy Dalton, Brian Hoyer, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Ryan Finley.

Nuthuggers gonna hug.

Don't forget the absolute gift we got from Burfict or it would have been 2 playoff wins in 10 years. Not even close to good enough to earn an extension.

People trying to ignore 10 years of ****** coaching because we beat a few perennial ****** teams with a backup QB.
 
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To the extent Tomlin is responsible for the turnover differential, I give him credit for this season as THAT is what explains the Steelers being 7-5. Take that away and put the Steelers at +0 and they are a 3-9 team.
 
it takes a willfully closed-minded person to not see what Tomlin has done this season.

As stated before, we have played the vast majority of the season without Ben. We've also been without our top RB for a few games. Our #1 WR has struggled in his new role and also been injured. We've had to rely at times on Johnny ******* Holton to make catches...the Ike Taylor of the WR corps. Our rookie WR is essentially our #1 WR when Juju is out. Our 3rd WR has finally started playing to his potential. We had a WR with dislocated fingers and likely missing thumbs and/or palms.

We've also been without Tuitt for a large portion of the season.

It cannot be said enough, though, that without injuries to either Ben or Tuitt, we'd likely not have made that trade for Minkah. So there is a silver lining in that.

It's being said we lost to the good teams and beat the bad teams. That's true, but at the time we lost to the "good" teams, at that point in the season we didnt know what we know now. When we lost to the ***s on their home field to open the season, it was understood no team was going to win that game other than the ***s. So we were behing the eight ball to start.

Seattle was 2-0 after they beat us in week 2. We then made the trade for Minkah and faced the 49ers in San Francisco. Remember, Tomlin has a **** record on the West Coast. 49ers were 3-0 after that game.

So we lost our first three games to 3 of the top teams in the league. We'd also lost Ben, Tuitt and were struggling offensively to find an identity. One of those games was a non-win anyway. Two of those were away. We lost to Seattle by 2 points and the Seahawks worked our defense for the final 5:34 of the game, nullifying any chance we had to win.

we beat the Bengals at home. yawn. 1-3 on the season at this point. yawn. Offense still struggling, but defense is changed.

We lose to the Ravens, in Overtime. This is the game where Mason was KO'd by Earl Thomas. Also marks where Mason started regressing in play if we want to look back and give an honest assessment of his play going forward after this game. Ravens were 2-2 coming into this game and now look to be one of the top teams in the AFC and league as a whole. **** Justin Tucker.

so at this point, we're now 1-4, and since we're looking back but also looking at current standings, we've lost to the top 4 teams in the league. But, change is coming.

Over our next 7 games, we've gone 6-1. Those wins include a win AT the Chargers (going against Tomlin's ineptitude on the West Coast), beating the Colts, to give them their 3rd loss of the season (and raise our record to .500), beating the Rams to continue our defensive rise and push the Rams season towards an also-ran. We did lose to the Browns in Cleveland, but that was also when the Browns were starting to gel after beating the Bills. Say what you will, but those turds have a stacked offense with LBJ, Landry, Chubb and Hunt.

and if Cleveland is a bad team and we lost to them, then they're still a bad team when we beat them when starting street free agents.

I've also wanted Tomlin gone, but do not really trust in the hiring process to put a coach in who could be the next great coach. Tomlin's outlasted both of the other candidates the Rooneys were choosing from when Cowher retired.
 
im not overly impressed. seeing our schedule was patty cake soft and we needed injuries to other teams players and missed fgs to squeak by.
bengals X2
chargers
browns
dolphins
colts*
rams
not exactly excatly teams

as far as 'tomlin' defense.it took a bunch of first rounders, big money FAs and a huge trade to get it good. not like he drafted and developed it.
pretty easy to be good with loaded rosters.
 
im not overly impressed. seeing our schedule was patty cake soft and we needed injuries to other teams players and missed fgs to squeak by.
bengals X2
chargers
browns
dolphins
colts*
rams
not exactly excatly teams

as far as 'tomlin' defense.it took a bunch of first rounders, big money FAs and a huge trade to get it good. not like he drafted and developed it.
pretty easy to be good with loaded rosters.

It has been a very soft schedule. Only one of the teams we've beaten has a winning record. We can't control who we play, but we have a lot to prove still.
 
im not overly impressed. seeing our schedule was patty cake soft and we needed injuries to other teams players and missed fgs to squeak by.
bengals X2
chargers
browns
dolphins
colts*
rams
not exactly excatly teams

as far as 'tomlin' defense.it took a bunch of first rounders, big money FAs and a huge trade to get it good. not like he drafted and developed it.
pretty easy to be good with loaded rosters.

Well, he only won because he inherited Cowher’s players. You know, the only reason he wins is because he has a HOF QB. Anyone can win with a team that has the best WR and RB in the game. Well we really haven’t played anyone, and their players were injured too. That’s why he wins. And now, the kicker. Of course he wins, he has a loaded roster. Anyone can win with a loaded roster on defense. Hmm, is there a common theme here? Do you guys even think about the things you say? smh


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Well, he only won because he inherited Cowher’s players. You know, the only reason he wins is because he has a HOF QB. Anyone can win with a team that has the best WR and RB in the game. Well we really haven’t played anyone, and their players were injured too. That’s why he wins. And now, the kicker. Of course he wins, he has a loaded roster. Anyone can win with a loaded roster on defense. Hmm, is there a common theme here? Do you guys even think about the things you say? smh


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ok, can you please then explain to us how come tomlin is such a great coach in the regular season but fails in the post?
 
I think Tomlin has done a better job this year. The Steelers aren't underachieving like they usually do. When Ben went down I expected the Steelers to total about 3 wins and have a top 5 pick. The offense was terrible (kinda still is), the defense was terrible, and special teams was worse. Our best WR was unproven without someone else getting double-teamed (still kinda is), and our starting RB was/is inconsistent and fragile.
Now the defense looks great, for the most part, due much to getting Minkah Fitzpatrick and an inexplicable lightbulb coming on in Bud Dupree's head.
Special teams has even gotten better. Boswell has been pretty much automatic and the season ending injury to Ryan Switzer is a huge improvement to our return game. Do you realize we had a kickoff return to the 41 in that last game against the clowns? Even our punter has been pretty good (not good at ever knocking down a punt inside the 10, of course, but good nonetheless).

I would be happy with pretty much anyone as head coach besides Tomlin next year. My mind has been made up for years on that subject. But yeah, sure, he's coach of the year under these circumstances. Go ahead and give it to him, and hopefully the Washington rumors are true.
 
I would be happy with pretty much anyone as head coach besides Tomlin next year..

You are NOT gonna be happy anytime soon. Not sure what more Tomlin can do to please you this year ???

Tomlin is coaching his ******* *** off and making the rest of the NFL coaches look bad & is the Leading COY Candidate....
 
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You are NOT gonna be happy anytime soon. Not sure what more Tomlin can do to please you this year ???

Tomlin is coaching his ******* *** off and making the rest of the NFL coaches look bad & is the Leading COY Candidate....

how so?
what is he doing this year that he didnt do the last 10?
what coaches look bad?
 
I still want to know what in the hell Tomlin meant when he said, you play defense differently when Ben is in there? WTF does that even mean?
So when you Ben is in there you play bad defense, when Ben isn't you play good defense?
 
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