Jason Whitlock blasts Tomlin

[steelhurt]

Forget about Jason Whitlock. He's another mouth with an opinion trying to get press time. Who cares! Now on the Mike Munchak incident, this has gotten blown way out of proportion. If you look at the video you can clearly see that Munchak was trying to slow the player down and from possibly hurting himself but his hand got caught up in that ******* mess coming from his helmet. He wasn't intentionally trying to pull his hair. Then the player pushes Munchak who if you look at Munch's face, is one of surprise and bewilderment as if to say what the hell are you pushing me for. Of course the media has to build this up because it fits with the subplot of Porter and now it all feeds into crap like Whitlock is reporting. This one is being blown way out of proportion and the player if anyone should be fined for pushing a coach on the sidelines.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I think the whole profession of sports journalism is a fraud. I've been watching more of NFLN and ESPN lately since we made the playoffs, as well as more print media than usual. I'm convinced that 90% or more of these clowns just talk to hear themselves talk. They have no more insight than you or me. **** them all.

I agree with the sentiment mentioned elsewhere that immediately after the game all the talking heads were ripping the Bungles, then overnight the league or the networks made their minds right and reminded them that the usual narrative has to have the Steelers doing SOMETHING wrong and by the next morning all those penalties somehow became our fault.

 

[Frosty]

"I believe in the the entirety of the clip regarding Nelson, there is reason to believe Nelson is making unnecessary advance on Toussaint after the play is over. I don't think Munch is trying to pull his hair so much as restrain him from making a "heat of the moment" mistake in continuing a play out of bounds. It certainly LOOKS like Nelson takes an extra and completely unnecessary step towards Toussaint after both players' initial momentum has been stopped. Therefore I think Munch is reacting. In the act his hand DOES become entangled with spider hair. That's just going to be a side-effect from a guy who doesn't wash his hair for 6 years. It gets tangled and nasty like that - easy to get tangled up in."



EXACTLY!!!! If Nelson turned to go back on the field Munchack doesn't feel the need to grab him.



Whitlock was kicked off ESPN a few months ago. He knows that a black man criticizing another black man will get him noticed. That's all it is.

 

[Steel G]

I watched his whole interview on The Herd - yeah, protect Starvin Marvin by attacking Tomlin....brilliant.

What a douche.

Yep. Apparently Tomlin is the only feared black coach in the league, because nobody is afraid to go after Marvin's total **** playoff record and people aren't afraid to dump on Jim Caldwell or Lovie Smith either. And after the Jets choked in Buffalo, I already heard NY radio guys getting on Todd Bowles for not having the team ready to go and making dumb decisions in that game.

 

[Skott]

Whitlock is just looking for attention.... Again.

 

[Steel G]

Whitlock is just looking for attention.... Again.

Plus Colin Cowturd is looking for some mentions since jumping from the ESPN shithole to the nowhere land of Foxsports.

 

[8716]

Jeebus, is Whitlock going to play Jabba the Hutt in the next star wars. He has to be 4 bills.

 

[mightyguru]

Whitlesscock has always been a sensationalist, devil's advocate type *******. Big ******* deal.

 

[topseed]

You have to understand the context of the clip. It's from a Bengals site. It's been edited, but clearly right there on the screen it says: "Whitlock: Marvin Lewis and Mike Tomlin need to apologize for Saturday's game." So, evidently there was some criticism of Lewis as well, which we didn't see.

And speaking of apologies, I watched the wildcard week version of Sound FX, and at the end of the game, Tomlin says "I'm sorry" to Lewis. I was just wondering...what the **** is he apologizing for?

 

[Steel G]

You have to understand the context of the clip. It's from a Bengals site. It's been edited, but clearly right there on the screen it says: "Whitlock: Marvin Lewis and Mike Tomlin need to apologize for Saturday's game." So, evidently there was some criticism of Lewis as well, which we didn't see.

And speaking of apologies, I watched the wildcard week version of Sound FX, and at the end of the game, Tomlin says "I'm sorry" to Lewis. I was just wondering...what the **** is he apologizing for?

Heard that too....think it was more of a, "Sorry you lost that way" kind of apology. I don't think he was apologizing for himself or the Steelers or anything like that.

 

[Coach]

I'm not sure what Whitlock is getting at or what his end game is with this piece. Is he saying that Tomlin should have been fired for lack of performance? the Jacoby Jones incident? I don't understand why the piece was written and to what end. So, he thinks he's above reproach, where's the list egregious actions that deserve for Mike Tomlin to be excoriated?

Jacoby Jones - He was fined $100K for this idiotic move, Bill Cowher stepped onto the field mocking a tackle attempt on a kick or punt returner, he also walked up to a referee and stuffed a picture in his shirt pocket (you shouldn't touch a ref period), Belechick and the Patriots bending of the rules is well documented, so why should Mike Tomlin be held to something other coaches haven't been held to?

Munchak/Porter - Porter being on the field is such a non-starter that I can't even believe its being talked about, there were coaches and players from both teams milling around like they were at a spring picnic while AB was being attended to. Porter being on the field is only being emphasized now because the NFL and its lackeys in the media are trying to deflect some of the dirt from Burfict and Jones, by saying, "Oh, but look , Joey Porter was somewhere he shouldn't have been." Whether Munchak grabbed Nelson's hair on purpose or not, he'll be fined and that should end that. How are these two events even being compared to Burfict's hit?

What else has Mike Tomlin done that deserves for him to be treated any differently than he has been by the media? They don't like his loquacious, but uninformative answers to questions so Whitlock is going to try and make something up that doesn't exist. The article is originating from the 'cincyjungle" that tells you all you need to know, losers will be losers and there isn't any amount of perfume going to hide the odor emanating from "The Jungle".

Papillon

I'm not speaking for Whitlock, but I do think some coaches are treated with kid gloves, and others are not. That's just the way it is. Just like Some QB's are treated differently than others.

What I will say is Whitlock is not afraid to tell it like it is. Lewis did not have control of his players and their actions were inexcusable. No, doubt! The double standard I suppose that Whitlock did not articulate is you could say Tomlin did not have control of his coaches.

Whitlock himself is based in Kansas City and grew up in Indiana, so if anything he's likely a Colts or Chiefs fan.

Whitlock who is critical of the NFL for not hiring more minority coaches tweeted, I don't want Tomlin fired. Want him accountable.

 

[scstillerfan]

I quit watching all the pregame shows for every sport. The channel for the game isn't on the TV until kickoff. The same goes for internet bullshit. Steeler Nation is the only site I pay any real attention to.

 

[topseed]

Heard that too....think it was more of a, "Sorry you lost that way" kind of apology. I don't think he was apologizing for himself or the Steelers or anything like that.

Could be.

But to me, in that situation, I don't want to hear that you're sorry, because you really aren't. It's like losing a huge pot on the river in poker, when the winner smiles and smugly says "sorry, man," and I want to punch the guy in the face.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Mike Tomlin's $100,000 to the league for the tripping incident says otherwise.

Papillon

Mike Tomlin's $100K fine doesn't mean he "deliberately" tripped Jacoby. It means only that he was fined for being in Jacoby's way and on the field when he shouldn't have been. One person only knows if it was deliberate, and that is Mike Tomlin.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Plus Colin Cowturd is looking for some mentions since being fired from the ESPN shithole to the nowhere land of Foxsports.

Fixed it for ya.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

He's said so much dumb **** in the past that I just expect it from him.

I think it's important to these publications to have click bait headlines, and somebody has to be the fall guy to write them.

Enter professional prostitute, Jason Whitlock.

 

[Coach]

Mike Tomlin's $100K fine doesn't mean he "deliberately" tripped Jacoby. It means only that he was fined for being in Jacoby's way and on the field when he shouldn't have been. One person only knows if it was deliberate, and that is Mike Tomlin.

There was a video that shows Tomlin knew what he was doing. Jacoby likely scores if his path was unimpeded. Cowher almost had this moment during a block kicked bu checked himself just before acting.

 

[papillon]

I'm not speaking for Whitlock, but I do think some coaches are treated with kid gloves, and others are not. That's just the way it is. Just like Some QB's are treated differently than others.

What I will say is Whitlock is not afraid to tell it like it is. Lewis did not have control of his players and their actions were inexcusable. No, doubt! The double standard I suppose that Whitlock did not articulate is you could say Tomlin did not have control of his coaches.

Whitlock himself is based in Kansas City and grew up in Indiana, so if anything he's likely a Colts or Chiefs fan.

Whitlock who is critical of the NFL for not hiring more minority coaches tweeted, I don't want Tomlin fired. Want him accountable.

Accountable for what is still my question? Were the Steelers over the line in that game?

Shazier? Bernard was actually making a football play and Shazier tackled him. Ok, flag him and move on, this happens in every game in the NFL, there's either no flag, a flag or a flag and a fine and you move on, no team ever says, "Hey, hold that coach accountable for personal file penalty."

Porter? Really, this is a great big nothing burger, players jabber at each other all game long, not one Bengal has said that Porter's comments were over the line. Porter being on the field when he shouldn't have been, the majority of both teams were on the field and I assume to verify that AB was still alive.

Munchak? He was penalized and may be fined.

Jacoby Jones? - Tomlin was fined $100K I believe, that's accountable in my opinion.

So, what does Whitlock want Tomlin accountable for? Do other coaches have to explain every late hit, coach on the field crap that happens in a game? No
I just don't understand what is to be held accountable. Hell, Belechick and Brady weren't really held accountable for things that actually could have affected outcomes of games, they were fined and lost draft picks, I'm sure Belechick makes that trade every day of the week, fine me and take some draft picks, but I get to cheat and win a Super Bowl.

Even though this is just an opinion piece shouldn't Whitlock at least enumerate instances of Mike Tomlin being "let off the hook" so to speak by the media and not asking him hard questions? He's making statements and providing nothing by which to verify or discredit the report. This is just as bad as misrepresenting the facts, IMO.

The entity that needs to be held accountable IMO are the irresponsible media that just write crap to see what gets clicks and viewership, see Gottlieb, Stephen A Smith and Bayless.

Papillon

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

There was a video that shows Tomlin knew what he was doing. Jacoby likely scores if his path was unimpeded. Cowher almost had this moment during a block kicked bu checked himself just before acting.

There is no video that exists anywhere that shows what thoughts were going through Tomlin's mind. That technology doesn't exist.

Look, I'm no "wild" Mike Tomlin defender. I'm just trying to make sure statements are accurate. The facts are that Tomlin stepped onto he field, in Jacoby's way. He claims it was an accident, the Ravens said otherwise, and the NFL fined Mike. Not one soul on this planet can say it was deliberate besides Mike. If he has admitted, somewhere, that he did so intentionally, then you are correct.

Otherwise, you'll have to point me to the new video cameras that not only capture a person on film but simultaneously records their thoughts.

 

[madinsomniac]

Whitlock intentionally racebaits... he is a very intelligent man, but he knows how to stir the pot...

Do you know who NEEDS to be held accountable... How about the league office... How much of this happens if last year when this stuff started the league nipped it in the butt with harsh penalties to all parties... or this year when Vince Williams was in that tweet war... why not come down hard on everyone right there... threaten suspensions right then for the next game... and in that last game there was several very suspend able acts, mostly by burfict... who shouldn't have even played for crossing midfield... not stepping in there when it was clear these teams were going to escalate... that was idiotic and only for ratings, or maybe just to appease Mike brown, who is a rabble rouser in league meetings.

Or maybe after that when Burfict ended the year with another bad hit... maybe then you suspend him... but instead they did that meaningless "refs on the field" gesture and let things simmer till they blew up....


And on top of that... their idiotic rules are so ******* complex that you need a legal expert to determine what is a legal hit or not these days... I don't want to explain 4 intersecting rules and the clarifications to a bunch of backwoods Ohio/Kentucky/Indiana rednecks who aren't going to get it anyhow. And those players are mostly dumb as bricks, so I mean they cant possibly know.... and refs probably have what... .4 seconds to see it and make a judgement call that cant be reviewed...


I'd blame Burfict #1 for this mess with the lion's share, and Jones#2 for the mouthy war he started....but the league #3 before the coaches, the coaches, who really could have stopped it but didn't want to, then a ton of other people from both sides who took part in or perpetuated it over the past couple years...

 

[SteelBuckeye]

I'm not speaking for Whitlock, but I do think some coaches are treated with kid gloves, and others are not. That's just the way it is. Just like Some QB's are treated differently than others.

What I will say is Whitlock is not afraid to tell it like it is. Lewis did not have control of his players and their actions were inexcusable. No, doubt! The double standard I suppose that Whitlock did not articulate is you could say Tomlin did not have control of his coaches.

Whitlock himself is based in Kansas City and grew up in Indiana, so if anything he's likely a Colts or Chiefs fan.

Whitlock who is critical of the NFL for not hiring more minority coaches tweeted, I don't want Tomlin fired. Want him accountable.

See, this "telling it like it is" thing ... Says who? What if I don't agree that what he's saying is "like it is". He's stating opinion, not fact. Therefore, what he's telling can not be "like it is"; only what he thinks, believes or wants you to think or believe. Just as when you say: "The double standard I suppose that Whitlock did not articulate is you could say Tomlin did not have control of his coaches." The fact is that Whitlock did not say this. It's your opinion that this is what he's trying to articulate. However, if he's such an intelligent writer and tells it like it is, one would suppose that if he meant to say something, he'd have no problem articulating it.

Where he was born and is based has no impact on his fandom ... he played for Ball State (MAC). Yet he's a die-hard fan of that school in Ann Arbor.

By the way, who appointed Whitlock as the person who should determine whether or not Tomlin is being held accountable? As has been pointed out, Tomlin has been held accountable for his transgressions during his tenure as Steelers Head Coach. Whitlock race baits. He plays the reverse racism card and can never write an article without race being an issue. Then when he's called on his bullshit, he accuses others of calling him an Uncle Tom or Race Panderer; as he did during his interview with CC.

Stir the pot with a crock of cow patties ... then accuse people of trying to deflect from the issue (which is not an issue at all) when they call Bull ****. That's Whitlock's M.O at all times. He's totally irrelevant without it and mostly irrelevant when engaging in it. ... except for those who agree with his tactics.

Hell, he had the nerve to throw Belicheat up as an example of a coach who would have been skewered if his assistants had acted like Tomlin's assistants are alleged to have acted last week. Belicheat as someone who would have been skewered? Really? Get dafuq outta here ... credibility? Lost.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

How much of this happens if last year when this stuff started the league nipped it in the butt with harsh penalties to all parties...

On a side note, one that's meant to be humorous...this phrase always cracks me up when people misuse it and it once led to an interesting email exchange between my wife and a female friend of ours and I.

The correct phrase is "Nip it in the bud." As in, with trimming flowers or bushes. If you nip (or cut) a growing bud from a stem, that bud won't grow and flourish into another branch. Thus the phrase, "nip it in the bud" refers to stopping something before it grows out of control.

So back in 2012, another mother and my wife and I exchange emails about our respective sons and an issue that was occurring. I've taken out irrelevant information, but this is a cut and paste from the exchange

Wife: "B" has sort of done this before and we do need to nip this one in the butt sooner than later. Hope you understand and sorry that I forgot about this.

Me (direct to my wife only in email): The correct phrase is actually "nip it in the bud" not butt, but thank you for the laugh I hope she doesn't pick up on it. LOL

Wife (in direct reply to me only): Really, I didn’t know that – what’s ‘bud’ mean anyway? Where did this saying come from? I like my version better!

Wife (replying to friend and me): ...sorry "K" for the wrong expression about “nipping in the bud and not butt”! Tim informed me of my screw up and we had a good laugh about it.

Female friend (reply to my wife and I): I like nipping in the butt better anyway!

My reply to both ladies: No comment . "Just walk away Tim....just walk away."

Female friend: That totally came out wrong!

Me to both: I am so laughing thank you both for the chuckles today!​

 

[madinsomniac]

On a side note, one that's meant to be humorous...this phrase always cracks me up when people misuse it and it once led to an interesting email exchange between my wife and a female friend of ours and I.

The correct phrase is "Nip it in the bud." As in, with trimming flowers or bushes. If you nip (or cut) a growing bud from a stem, that bud won't grow and flourish into another branch. Thus the phrase, "nip it in the bud" refers to stopping something before it grows out of control.

So back in 2012, another mother and my wife and I exchange emails about our respective sons and an issue that was occurring. I've taken out irrelevant information, but this is a cut and paste from the exchange

Wife: "B" has sort of done this before and we do need to nip this one in the butt sooner than later. Hope you understand and sorry that I forgot about this.

Me (direct to my wife only in email): The correct phrase is actually "nip it in the bud" not butt, but thank you for the laugh I hope she doesn't pick up on it. LOL

Wife (in direct reply to me only): Really, I didn’t know that – what’s ‘bud’ mean anyway? Where did this saying come from? I like my version better!

Wife (replying to friend and me): ...sorry "K" for the wrong expression about “nipping in the bud and not butt”! Tim informed me of my screw up and we had a good laugh about it.

Female friend (reply to my wife and I): I like nipping in the butt better anyway!

My reply to both ladies: No comment . "Just walk away Tim....just walk away."

Female friend: That totally came out wrong!

Me to both: I am so laughing thank you both for the chuckles today!​

Meh fine ... Ill say bit the ******* in the *** to make him stop... Aka nipped him in the butt lol

 

[Steelr4evr]

Tomlin is black? All i see is the HC of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I could give a **** about anything else other than the team winning super bowls.

 

[POP]

Says people are afraid to criticize him because he's black.........he's obviously has never been to this board.


http://www.cincyjungle.com/2016/1/1...people-are-afraid-to-criticize-steelers-coach

To be fair, he's referring to publically being critical, I think.