If you think Edmunds isn't a first rounder, you are wrong.

[Tibs]

I'm sure there were better safeties on the board, which hindsight will show.

What does that even mean? That you're a better talent evaluator than Tomlin, Butler, Rooney, Colbert and new DB coach Tom Bradley?

You should get yourself a job in an NFL front office immediately. Why waste your talent and insight toiling away on a Steelers message board?

 

[ark steel]

Its funny. If anyone here mocked Terrell Edmunds in round one for us they would laugh. No one did, here or in the media.

I think he'll be all right, but I'm sure there were better safeties on the board, which hindsight will show. How many were better? We'll see. Reid_Bates_Harrison



Would have picked Reid. A side line to side line cover guy with really good ball skills.

Ford said he would take him round 1, but that he moved him down to 3 because of what everyone else was saying.

 

[CoolieMan]

What does that even mean? That you're a better talent evaluator than Tomlin, Butler, Rooney, Colbert and new DB coach Tom Bradley?

You should get yourself a job in an NFL front office immediately. Why waste your talent and insight toiling away on a Steelers message board?

don't you know, the best talent evaluators in the world are on this site.....or maybe not

 

[TDX27]

They had him rated for the new "situational" and "specialty" football. He can play all across the d-backfield and he can step up and play ILB. That is the only reason I think they picked him. He won't play much this year, which sucks. He wasn't the best S on the board. Both Reid and Harrison are big and fast and better. We will have to wait and see in a few years how the pick pans out as I can't see him getting on the field much this year.

 

[topseed]

There were only 22 players invited to the first round draft this year.

Edmunds was one of those 22 players.

Want to know who wasn't there? Reid and Harrison...

Not only are all the mocks wrong about the first round safeties, but so were most of us. The NFL had it right.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...n-among-22-prospects-attending-2018-nfl-draft

The complete list of players attending the draft:

Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville
Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
Taven Bryan, DT, Florida
Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State
Sam Darnold, QB, USC
Marcus Davenport, DE, UTSA
Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
Shaquem Griffin, LB, Central Florida
Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville
Derwin James, S, Florida State
Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA
Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State
Vita Vea, DT, Washington
Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
Connor Williams, OT, Texas

So you're saying that Baker Mayfield wasn't invited to attend the draft, then?

 

[topseed]

The man himself was just on NFL Radio on Sirius and said, "I was just here to support my brother. I wasn't invited. My brother got the invite. I was just as shocked as everyone else when my name was called."

Well that's pretty interesting. Dude was "shocked" when he became a first round pick.

Me too.

 

[Steeltime]

They had him rated for the new "situational" and "specialty" football. He can play all across the d-backfield and he can step up and play ILB. That is the only reason I think they picked him. He won't play much this year, which sucks.

He plays nickel and dime, middle of the field, responsible for covering the RB and TE. Steelers play nickel and dime a lot. The question will be, can he effectively neutralize the running game? If he can be a run stopper, then the nickel and dime defenses are upgraded significantly. And he will play quite a bit - Steelers are in nickel 30 snaps per game or more.

He wasn't the best S on the board. Both Reid and Harrison are big and fast and better.

Just not true. Edmunds is 6', 217 lbs,, ran a 4.47 40, 41" vertical, 11'6" broad jump. Reid is 6', weighs 207, ran a 4.40, 36" vertical, 10'8" broad jump. Harrison is 6'2", 207 lbs., did not run the 40 at the combine, 34" vertical, 10' broad jump. Physically, Edmunds is the heaviest by 10 lbs. yet has significantly better fast-twitch numbers. His 40 is also certainly not an "issue."

 

[insaniti]

Same scouts that picked Jarvis Jones and Bud the Dud Dupree. Hmmmmm. Not a whole lot of faith here for those “pros”.


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Same scouts that picked Cam Hayward, Ryan Shazier, Stephon Tuitt, Artie Burns, Sean Davis, and TJ Watt... and that's just the recent first and second round defensive players.

All these people crying that we didn't pick Reid, dude didn't go until the third round, but Edmunds was a reach...

One thing I've learned from the Steelers drafts, especially recently, is that I really don't know a damn thing when it comes to scouting college players FOR THE STEELERS. There are players that I like, players I think will do well in the NFL, but that doesn't mean they are what the Steelers are looking for. Hell, there have been times they have been able to get the player that I did like, but several rounds after the round I thought they should have taken them in. I'll trust the guys that actually do this stuff for a living rather than the people who do it for their hobby.

And the people that do it for TV, that's a completely different animal. They have what they THINK are team needs, and team fits. They aren't in the draft rooms discussing what the team is and isn't looking for in a prospect. They are guessing just as much as the posters here are guessing.

I'm enjoying our draft, if for nothing else, to watch the heads of some of you "experts" absolutely explode with rage.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

good discussion thread. Shouldn't be buried .

 

[MTC]

Steve urkel in dreadlocks

Edmunds after a pick 6:

"Did I do thaaat!"

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

this thread needs more comments

 

[Fiji Mariner]

If Reid and Harrison weren't invited my guess is they just picked a guy that was at the draft (even though it was just to support his brother) so we could get a S and have someone there to hug Shazier after he walked out to announce the selection.

Of course he's a first rounder. Talking heads suck and our front office has been pretty consistent...I'll roll with our guys having a better clue what we need than ESPN babblers and arm chair GM posters.

SB 7 here we come!

 

[Stryker]

If Reid and Harrison weren't invited my guess is they just picked a guy that was at the draft (even though it was just to support his brother) so we could get a S and have someone there to hug Shazier after he walked out to announce the selection.

Of course he's a first rounder. Talking heads suck and our front office has been pretty consistent...I'll roll with our guys having a better clue what we need than ESPN babblers and arm chair GM posters.

SB 7 here we come!

I agree, I'm all for believing in the process. Unless that process nets Jarvis Jones...

 

[Steelers1356]

Its funny. If anyone here mocked Terrell Edmunds in round one for us they would laugh. No one did, here or in the media.

I think he'll be all right, but I'm sure there were better safeties on the board, which hindsight will show. How many were better? We'll see. Reid_Bates_Harrison



Would have picked Reid. A side line to side line cover guy with really good ball skills.

Reid wasn't picked until the 3rd round. Not much interest for him in the top rounds.

 

[slashsteel]

Jason La Canfora
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Wrote a lot about Terrell Edmunds being a guy who could shock people and go first round. If Evans o Vanden Esch are there, its them. But I love this pick. Edmunds was always going top 40ish

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Ross Tucker
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Told you guys Rashaad Penny and Terrell Edmunds would go before Lamar Jackson, Guice, & Harold Landry.

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Big surprise from the @Steelers . Edmunds didn't carry consensus 1st-round grades but he was a solid 2nd-round pick. With so many safeties rated on that 1st/2nd-round borderline, Edmunds is not necessarily a reach. #NFLDraft

11:14 PM - Apr 26, 2018

 

[Steeltime]

I agree, I'm all for believing in the process. Unless that process nets Jarvis Jones...

Fair point, Cope, but Edmunds is basically the anti-Jones. Jones had production at Georgia, but his measurables were AWFUL. Horrid. Nauseating. Edmunds had pretty good production at VaTech, and as I have posted previously, his measurables are ELITE. As in, his SPARQ score would be in the 97th percentile for CURRENT NFL safeties.

32 NFL teams, most have 4 safeties on the roster, 128 NFL safeties, and the numbers show that maybe 4 have better measurables than Edmunds.

FOUR.

 

[Stryker]

Fair point, Cope, but Edmunds is basically the anti-Jones. Jones had production at Georgia, but his measurables were AWFUL. Horrid. Nauseating. Edmunds had pretty good production at VaTech, and as I have posted previously, his measurables are ELITE. As in, his SPARQ score would be in the 97th percentile for CURRENT NFL safeties.

32 NFL teams, most have 4 safeties on the roster, 128 NFL safeties, and the numbers show that maybe 4 have better measurables than Edmunds.

FOUR.

I was making a joke on the JJ pick.

It does seem that he Steelers take Sparq scores more seriously now since the JJ draft. And if it took that mistake to help them find better athletes and limit risk, i'm all for it!

And I'm one of the few people here that doesn't mind the Edmunds pick at all. For this draft, I understand the way it fell. I'd rather have Griffin than a OT, but I understand the reasoning, so I'm not upset. I think the one that pisses me off the most was not getting Tate with the last pick. That kid is a talent, and I'll be pissed if he's a starter for the bungles in 2-3 years.

 

[slashsteel]

I was making a joke on the JJ pick.

It does seem that he Steelers take Sparq scores more seriously now since the JJ draft. And if it took that mistake to help them find better athletes and limit risk, i'm all for it!

And I'm one of the few people here that doesn't mind the Edmunds pick at all. For this draft, I understand the way it fell. I'd rather have Griffin than a OT, but I understand the reasoning, so I'm not upset. I think the one that pisses me off the most was not getting Tate with the last pick. That kid is a talent, and I'll be pissed if he's a starter for the bungles in 2-3 years.

I can't discount them not getting the most out of his potential though. They are decent at Bungling things up. But yeah like me some Tate.

 

[Hines57]

The guy projected to be our pick goes in Round 3 and this is why you can throw almost all the mocks in the trash. We aren't the paid talent evaluators who make personnel decisions.