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If the NFL draft was today - buy or sell?

Buy no doubt! Even if we end up 8-8 we’re still drafting about 15 to 20 and I’ll take that all day for a top ten talent.


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History shows with 100% certainty that he is far better than any DB Tombert would have drafted.
 
I'm buyin', damnit, I'm buyin'!!!!!

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Big Fan of the move. Tombert always seem to pull off some kind of pre or early season trade...this one was like a hawk overseeing baby mice.
 
Here's the problem i have with draft analysis. With all the coverage of the draft and the gurus popping out of the woodwork, people seem to think that the draft itself is something to be won or lost and they forget that it is just a mechanism to add players to help your team win.

That's why you had people flipping out that the steelers traded what they thought could be a top 10 pick for Minkah. It shows you how out of whack it's become that people were outraged that the steelers added an already proven player at their biggest position of need instead of some unnamed player in next year's draft. Most could not name 5 guys in next year's draft but they were damn sure the steelers passed up on a sure firs hall of famer to get Minkah.

Just look at the impact Minkah has had. He's been good but he's not Polamalu good, not yet anyway. His impact shows just how badly this defense needed a reliable Safety. How many blown coverages have we seen in the previous 5 or so years? How many easy TDs given up not because a WR made some great play, but because he was uncovered while 2 steeler DBs point at each other wondering who was supposed to cover him.

I'm not going to pretend that i have the next draft class all mapped out. I don't. So right now I don't exactly know which guys would be best available in the 10-15 range which is likely where they steelers would have picked without Minkah. What I do know is Minkah is as good or better than any defensive prospect aside from Ohio State's Chase Young and there's no way the steelers would have a shot at him.

There was also the kneejerk reaction that the steelers needed that pick to draft the next franchise QB. There's no way that was happening. They expect Ben to play a few more years and these QBs are not guarantees.
 
Here's the problem i have with draft analysis. With all the coverage of the draft and the gurus popping out of the woodwork, people seem to think that the draft itself is something to be won or lost and they forget that it is just a mechanism to add players to help your team win.

That's why you had people flipping out that the steelers traded what they thought could be a top 10 pick for Minkah. It shows you how out of whack it's become that people were outraged that the steelers added an already proven player at their biggest position of need instead of some unnamed player in next year's draft. Most could not name 5 guys in next year's draft but they were damn sure the steelers passed up on a sure firs hall of famer to get Minkah.

Just look at the impact Minkah has had. He's been good but he's not Polamalu good, not yet anyway. His impact shows just how badly this defense needed a reliable Safety. How many blown coverages have we seen in the previous 5 or so years? How many easy TDs given up not because a WR made some great play, but because he was uncovered while 2 steeler DBs point at each other wondering who was supposed to cover him.

I'm not going to pretend that i have the next draft class all mapped out. I don't. So right now I don't exactly know which guys would be best available in the 10-15 range which is likely where they steelers would have picked without Minkah. What I do know is Minkah is as good or better than any defensive prospect aside from Ohio State's Chase Young and there's no way the steelers would have a shot at him.

There was also the kneejerk reaction that the steelers needed that pick to draft the next franchise QB. There's no way that was happening. They expect Ben to play a few more years and these QBs are not guarantees.

On top of the obvious talent they have in him.....he is only in the 2nd year of his contract. Amazing trade.
 
Here's the problem i have with draft analysis. With all the coverage of the draft and the gurus popping out of the woodwork, people seem to think that the draft itself is something to be won or lost and they forget that it is just a mechanism to add players to help your team win.

That's why you had people flipping out that the steelers traded what they thought could be a top 10 pick for Minkah. It shows you how out of whack it's become that people were outraged that the steelers added an already proven player at their biggest position of need instead of some unnamed player in next year's draft. Most could not name 5 guys in next year's draft but they were damn sure the steelers passed up on a sure firs hall of famer to get Minkah.

Just look at the impact Minkah has had. He's been good but he's not Polamalu good, not yet anyway. His impact shows just how badly this defense needed a reliable Safety. How many blown coverages have we seen in the previous 5 or so years? How many easy TDs given up not because a WR made some great play, but because he was uncovered while 2 steeler DBs point at each other wondering who was supposed to cover him.

I'm not going to pretend that i have the next draft class all mapped out. I don't. So right now I don't exactly know which guys would be best available in the 10-15 range which is likely where they steelers would have picked without Minkah. What I do know is Minkah is as good or better than any defensive prospect aside from Ohio State's Chase Young and there's no way the steelers would have a shot at him.

There was also the kneejerk reaction that the steelers needed that pick to draft the next franchise QB. There's no way that was happening. They expect Ben to play a few more years and these QBs are not guarantees.

I have a hard time comparing him to Troy as they were just two different types players who played two different positions. One crowded the box the other is an Ed Reed deep FS type. I will say Minks 5 INTs are nothing to sneeze at and he arguably could have had a few more on top of that. I think we are witnessing a pro bowl type of season from him. And whoever we want to compare him to, I am pretty stoked about that.

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Steelers gave up their 1st rounder for a pro bowler who should be an all pro this year. He's still on his rookie contract for 2 more years and then the Steelers can 5th year option him. Amazing trade.

Plus if he keeps this up over time and becomes a HOFer, it will go down as one of the biggest steals in NFL trade history.
 
It reeked of desperation to me, and the fact that we were mired in an awful start, with a gloomy outlook. I was not a big fan of it at the time, especially at the price, but I also did not know anything about the return, nothing about the player, so I pretty much kept my thoughts to myself. It was also on the heels of two head scratching moves that the FO made that I was not a fan of, cutting Duck and Tuzar Skipper, but both are back, one is starting and we ended up getting a 5th round pick by keeping Dobbs and cutting Duck.

**** like that is why I tend to keep my mouth shut when it comes to personnel moves. For the most part.

It is an absolute no brainer of a trade and could be one of the best in Steeler history. It saved not only this season, but put us on a path for success in future seasons.
 
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