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Has L. Bell shown up for camp yet?

And yet people wonder why Bell is doing what he is doing. If nothing in his contract was guaranteed after his first year this could be him. Dont get hurt you say. Smh. Go run full speed into that 300 or 250 pound guy trying to kill you 25 to 30 times a game. But dont get hurt though. Block up that guy with a running start coming at you. But dont get hurt though. Its going to be really interesting at the next labor agreement. Real interesting indeed.
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So you are thinking the squabble was over what was guaranteed in Bell's contract offer?

Not so sure anything has concreted this belief.

If there is anything relevant in regards to injury is that if Bell gets injured now he gets jack ****.

Get your *** to camp, 12 million.

Sounds like a pretty good incentive to me.

Also not sure what you think is going to happen at the next labor agreement.

Not so sure a lot is going to change, from the deep pocket owners.

They would like to keep it that way.
 
slashsteel said:
So you are thinking the squabble was over what was guaranteed in Bell's contract offer?

Not so sure anything has concreted this belief.

If there is anything relevant in regards to injury is that if Bell gets injured now he gets jack ****.

Get your *** to camp, 12 million.

Sounds like a pretty good incentive to me.

Also not sure what you think is going to happen at the next labor agreement.

Not so sure a lot is going to change, from the deep pocket owners.

They would like to keep it that way.
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From what ive read it was the lack of guaranteed money after the first year. The average of each year was 12 million but only the signing bonus and first year were guaranteed.

Now when by working out on his on? Thats possible but not as risky as in camp is him and agent thinking i guess.

If the players are smart. They will strike and hold out for guaranteed money. CTE should be leverage enough for the players to try and get what they should. If the other sports can thrive while guaranteeing contracts so can the NFL

Im sure the owners would like to keep the staus quo. Thats why they fought the CTE findings for so long
 
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antdrewjosh said:
If the players are smart. They will strike and hold out for guaranteed money. CTE should be leverage enough for the players to try and get what they should. If the other sports can thrive while guaranteeing contracts so can the NFL
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Agree. It will probably result in shorter contracts but NFL players should have guaranteed contracts like MLB does.
 
antdrewjosh said:
From what ive read it was the lack of guaranteed money after the first year. The average of each year was 12 million but only the signing bonus and first year were guaranteed.

Now when by working out on his on? Thats possible but not as risky as in camp is him and agent thinking i guess.

If the players are smart. They will strike and hold out for guaranteed money. CTE should be leverage enough for the players to try and get what they should. If the other sports can thrive while guaranteeing contracts so can the NFL

Im sure the owners would like to keep the staus quo. Thats why they fought the CTE findings for so long
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I would argue that other sports are not thriving with them.


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SteelerInLebanon said:
I would argue that other sports are not thriving with them.


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Why would you say that??

The NFL makes the most money out of all the big sports leagues in America. Just last year, the league was said to have divided up $13 billion in national revenue. Compared to the other sports league :

The MLB was second in $9.5 billion,

NBA was third with $5.2 billion,

England’s soccer Premier League was fourth with close to $4 billion dollars

NHL was fifth with $3.7 billion dollars
 
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I'm all for guaranteed contracts but right NOW that is not the case. L. Bell + 12million is reason enough to be in camp. I think that Bell had near 30mil guaranteed over two years....... What the **** was wrong with that amount??? OH, yes... He needs #2 WR money on top of that..... I heard all variations of the above. Bottom line is he is NOT in camp and could step of parking curb wrong and blow something causing him to NOT be paid anything...... His risk.

As for guaranteed contracts...... Well the signing bonus will be gone, the legnth of time will be way shorter and the players will be held more accountable of win / lose / & ability. Start looking for things like if you win you get more money or if you lose you get less as right now, from a money perspective, they could care less. The NFL is changing so if guaranteed contracts become the norm then expect a LOT more things to become the norm, good or bad.




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Drink IRON City said:
I'm all for guaranteed contracts but right NOW that is not the case. L. Bell + 12million is reason enough to be in camp. I think that Bell had near 30mil guaranteed over two years....... What the **** was wrong with that amount??? OH, yes... He needs #2 WR money on top of that..... I heard all variations of the above. Bottom line is he is NOT in camp and could step of parking curb wrong and blow something causing him to NOT be paid anything...... His risk.

As for guaranteed contracts...... Well the signing bonus will be gone, the legnth of time will be way shorter and the players will be held more accountable of win / lose / & ability. Start looking for things like if you win you get more money or if you lose you get less as right now, from a money perspective, they could care less. The NFL is changing so if guaranteed contracts become the norm then expect a LOT more things to become the norm, good or bad.




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Well he is going to get at least 26 guaranteed thus year and next if he is franchised. So why take the just the 30 million guaranteed and then be locked into a contract you dont like
 
If he wants $16 million a year he should try getting through a whole season without a suspension or injury. And he should be a professional and show up for work. Also he should do it someplace else because I am over the guy.
 
antdrewjosh said:
Why would you say that??

The NFL makes the most money out of all the big sports leagues in America. Just last year, the league was said to have divided up $13 billion in national revenue. Compared to the other sports league :

The MLB was second in $9.5 billion,

NBA was third with $5.2 billion,

England’s soccer Premier League was fourth with close to $4 billion dollars

NHL was fifth with $3.7 billion dollars
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Because other than the NFL the other American leagues are a joke to most of the population. The NBA is a sham. MLB has serious competitive balance issue and is just plain boring. The only other sport I feel like watching is the NHL.
 
Unless he's the MVP of the winning SB team, he's just not worth that much. He's a fine athlete. So was Kordell Stewart as Slash. Then Stewart wanted QB money. The rest is history.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
The NBA is a sham.
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Gonna go ahead and disagree with you here. I think you mean the officiating and the draft lottery making the league seem fixed - which I think there is some validity to that. But overall, the NBA is a great league with a very passionate fanbase
 
antdrewjosh said:
Well he is going to get at least 26 guaranteed thus year and next if he is franchised. So why take the just the 30 million guaranteed and then be locked into a contract you dont like
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What was pay for the 3rd and 4th year???? Right now you are making nothing with no GAURANTEED MONEY. Until he signs then he has 12million. I know your stance and continuous reply so don't b other to answer. His contract was a good deal but now he has everything and I mean everything to lose.


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AggieSteel said:
Gonna go ahead and disagree with you here. I think you mean the officiating and the draft lottery making the league seem fixed - which I think there is some validity to that. But overall, the NBA is a great league with a very passionate fanbase
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They have lost old fans like me. It is a different league from the 80's. I feel no attachment to the players and actively dislike many of them. Loyalty is non existent the game is boring and way to slow at the end. The end for me was the whole Lebron Decision fiasco. I am a Lakers fan I guess but the league is not what it was.


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I thought the franchise tag was the salary of the top 5 backs in the league. But freeman just signed his deal for 8.5 mI'll per year. I thought he became the high paid rb with that deal.
 
I think it has to do with the Adrian Peterson contract that is off the books but was in tact upon this season's figures.



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BLITZ said:
I am missing something. Why is the franchise tag 12 mI'll if the highest paid back is making 8. 5 mill
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See my above post


mightyguru said:
These are 2 questions literally everyone is asking.
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His first question is unanswerable......... but I think I have the second one answeredable


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SteelerInLebanon said:
They have lost old fans like me. It is a different league from the 80's. I feel no attachment to the players and actively dislike many of them. Loyalty is non existent the game is boring and way to slow at the end. The end for me was the whole Lebron Decision fiasco. I am a Lakers fan I guess but the league is not what it was.


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Haven't watched an NBA game since the 90's. Once Jordan, Bird, Magic, Ewing, Malone and all their counterparts left the league, my interest left with them. I know it's still popular and has lots of stars but I've never felt the need to get back into watching.
 
Supersteeler said:
Haven't watched an NBA game since the 90's. Once Jordan, Bird, Magic, Ewing, Malone and all their counterparts left the league, my interest left with them. I know it's still popular and has lots of stars but I've never felt the need to get back into watching.
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Strikes killed my love of MLB and NBA. I was a HUGE MLB fan. Just under my love of the Steelers. The strike hit, and my team didn't get a chance at a title, and I bailed. The NBA is different. I was a 6ers fan and Barkley was king. He went to the Suns and I became a Suns fan. Haven't really cared about the 6ers since, and after the 97 strike, I was done watching that sport. In the NBA you root for players, in the NFL you root for teams.

The NHL strike is the only strike that didn't lose me as a fan. Because they fixed all of the terrible rules and opened up the game to make it a better product. A strike would kill the NFL right now.
 
There are two types of franchise tags -- exclusive and non-exclusive. An exclusively-tagged player is only allowed to negotiate a long-term contract with his present team. A non-exclusive can with others. If the player agrees to a contract with a new team, his old team gets an opportunity to match the contract, or receive two first-round picks as compensation.

Cousins and Bell were given the exclusive franchise tag. The rest are non-exclusive

The NFL announced the franchise tag salaries for the 2017 season. Any player tagged receives a one-year, fully-guaranteed contract valued at the five highest paid at the position.

Quarterback: $21.268m
Running back: $12.120m
Receiver: $15.682m
Tight end: $9.780m
Offensive line: $14.271m
Defensive end: $16.934m
Defensive tackle: $13.387m
Linebacker: $14.550m
Cornerback: $14.212
Safety: $10.896m
Kicker/punter: $4.835m

Under the 2011 CBA, the non-exclusive franchise tenders are determined based not on what any one player made in 2016 or will make in 2017, but on the five-year average of the percentage that the tenders for each position consume under the total cap. For running backs, the 2017 franchise tender will equate to 7.257 percent of the overall cap. At a salary cap of $165 million, that’s a tender of $11.9 million.

NFL Network has suggested that a decision by the Vikings to cut Adrian Peterson will cause that number to drop to $8 million. It won’t. Peterson’s $18 million cap number for 2017 is relevant only to the exclusive tag, which is based on the average of the five highest cap numbers at the position the coming year.

Via Spotrac.com, the five highest running back cap numbers for 2017 belong to Peterson, Bills running back LeSean McCoy ($8.875 million), Panthers running back Jonathan Stewart ($8.25 million), Texans running back Lamar Miller ($6.5 million), and Titans running back DeMarco Murray ($6.25 million). Even with Peterson’s $18 million, the next four drag the average down to $9.5 million If Peterson is cut, Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles replaced Peterson at No. 5, with a cap number of $6.187 million. That reduces the average to $7.2 million.
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SteelChip said:
There are two types of franchise tags -- exclusive and non-exclusive. An exclusively-tagged player is only allowed to negotiate a long-term contract with his present team. A non-exclusive can with others. If the player agrees to a contract with a new team, his old team gets an opportunity to match the contract, or receive two first-round picks as compensation.

Cousins and Bell were given the exclusive franchise tag. The rest are non-exclusive

The NFL announced the franchise tag salaries for the 2017 season. Any player tagged receives a one-year, fully-guaranteed contract valued at the five highest paid at the position.

Quarterback: $21.268m
Running back: $12.120m
Receiver: $15.682m
Tight end: $9.780m
Offensive line: $14.271m
Defensive end: $16.934m
Defensive tackle: $13.387m
Linebacker: $14.550m
Cornerback: $14.212
Safety: $10.896m
Kicker/punter: $4.835m
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thank you.
for some reason, I had it in my head that the franchise tag was the amount of the 5 highest paid at the position and the transition tag was the 10 highest paid at the position. makes more sense know . but who the **** sets the franchise tag for running backs at 12 mill when the highest paid is no where close to it.
 
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Drink IRON City said:
What was pay for the 3rd and 4th year???? Right now you are making nothing with no GAURANTEED MONEY. Until he signs then he has 12million. I know your stance and continuous reply so don't b other to answer. His contract was a good deal but now he has everything and I mean everything to lose.


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What made it a good deal?? Cause the steelers offered it? And so what if he betting on himself how does that effect you? He is the best RB in football what are the chances he goes out and has a great year? As long as he doesnt suffer a season ending injury on the open market he will get a offer better then the steelers offered more then likely. And right now he will make 12 million when he signs. Just like Cope said Bell didnt leak the steelers offer the Steelers did. Why? To make Bell look ungrateful. When he has every right to bet on himself to have a good year and maximize his earnings. I love the Steelers too but damn these guys have rights too.
 
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