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Early Games

Raiders 7-0 over the rats
 
Andrew Luck chokes again. Please someone....anyone....tell me why he is considered elite? Damn Colts cost me 13 points in my pick em league today too.
 
Steelerlyn said:
Andrew Luck chokes again. Please someone....anyone....tell me why he is considered elite? Damn Colts cost me 13 points in my pick em league today too.
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We were just talking about this, how in the hell is he considered one of the top qb's in the league
 
Buf is kicking NE *** today
 
Superman and the Carolina Kitty Cats are losing to Matty Ice and the Falcons. Game's on Fox where I live .... Dick Stockton is one of the announcers. Does anybody besides me remember when he used to be on KDKA TV??
 
warriors42 said:
We were just talking about this, how in the hell is he considered one of the top qb's in the league
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Pedigree? Other than that, I have no clue.
 
madinsomniac said:
He throws for fancy stats every now and again too... I'm not sure he is worth the hype yet
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Yet? He's been in the league how long? 5 seasons? How much longer does he get a pass?
 
Steelerlyn said:
Yet? He's been in the league how long? 5 seasons? How much longer does he get a pass?
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It would help if the team around him wasn't total garbage.

Luck's injury last year was probably the only reason Pagano and the GM were not fired. Seriously, the Colts' blocking and defense are no better than they were when they got there in 2012. Not to mention they blew a first round pick trading for Trent Richardson.
 
Punxsutawney said:
It would help if the team around him wasn't total garbage.

Luck's injury last year was probably the only reason Pagano and the GM were not fired. Seriously, the Colts' blocking and defense are no better than they were when they got there in 2012. Not to mention they blew a first round pick trading for Trent Richardson.
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This. That OL is hot garbage and has been for quite a while. I don't remember the defense ever being anything special, but this one is especially bad. Personally, I don't think Luck is elite, whatever elite means. A QB is only going to be as good as the team around him. Sure, some guys are good enough to will the team around them to be better,but all in all, a QB will only go as far as the team around him allows.
 
Please Raiders. Finish these *******.
 
Sarge said:
This. That OL is hot garbage and has been for quite a while. I don't remember the defense ever being anything special, but this one is especially bad. Personally, I don't think Luck is elite, whatever elite means. A QB is only going to be as good as the team around him. Sure, some guys are good enough to will the team around them to be better,but all in all, a QB will only go as far as the team around him allows.
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Agree. I watched some of the first half and saw 3 dropped passed that were perfectly thrown balls, and 2 sacks where more than one defender met him at the 3rd step of his 3-step drop. Elite? don't know. but I do know he is pretty good, but he has one receiver (Hilton) and no offensive line. Tough to be hard on the kid.
 
Punxsutawney said:
It would help if the team around him wasn't total garbage.

Luck's injury last year was probably the only reason Pagano and the GM were not fired. Seriously, the Colts' blocking and defense are no better than they were when they got there in 2012. Not to mention they blew a first round pick trading for Trent Richardson.
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It's stunning how bad the Colts are with a talented quarterback. They need to move on from both the HC and GM.

Penguins&Steelers said:
Please Raiders. Finish these *******.
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This looks like one of those games where the Ravens hang around and win in the final minutes.
 
watching det/chi...sad...

Stafford just gives himself up, anytime he's close to being sacked...
 
Harbaugh just made the dumbest decision I've seen in a while, and the announcers are lighting him up for it. The Rats stopped Oakland for a loss on 3rd down. There was a personal foul on the play, and harbaugh chose to move them back instead of letting them kick the fg. It still would have been well within Janakowski's range, but Oakland ends up with a touchdown instead.
 
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