Don't think Ray Rice will be defended anymore...

[Steel Not A Player]

where do you see her spitting on him? I see him doing it to her and that is not an elbow, that is trying to defend herself from getting spat on again. .

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/09/09/ray-rice-furor-longer-video-includes-obscenities-spitting/

All the major outlets are reporting this. She spit, not him.

And it's an elbow, which is why his head snaps back. More importantly it's why she was initially charged and why Rice was given diversion by the courts instead of a formal charge. She started the fight, and there's really no two ways about it.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

funny thing, the video shared by Steel Not A Player is not even the complete video as posted at TMZ ... If you follow the link below to their site and watch their video, you'll see Rice lurking in the area before the elevator; waiting for Janay and at about the :08 mark, spitting on her as she walks past. Rice is clearly the instigator. And, he waits until they get on the elevator to escalate the conflict. In short, he's exactly the piece of **** he's being described as.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/08/ray-rice-elevator-knockout-fiancee-takes-crushing-punch-video/

 

[Skott]

They are both bat **** crazy..Now she's blaming the media....haha Yeah the evil media...

Get a clue girl..

 

[t-man]

She spit in his face and hit him first. She had it coming and it's just that simple.

Watch closely at the :12 second mark. Her left elbow comes up and his head snaps back. It is only then that he reacts by smacking her. Then, he tries to retreat and she comes screaming at him again, and gets knocked cold. At every step in the process, it is JANAY PARKER who is the aggressor. And she herself has tried and tried to make it clear that this was as much her fault as his, but because all of you politically correct pansies can't stand your ground equally against female abusers as males, lies are propagated over and over.



She hit him first. And no one discusses this fact.

She put about as much force behind that slap as your average 10 year old boy. Would you be ok with Ray if he had cold cocked a 10 year old kid too?

Men are stronger than women. If a woman slaps you, you stop her from doing it again, you don't ******* cold **** her. And that's if your just an average guy. For ***** sake, if your a profesional football player, you would really think you wouldn't actually PUNCH a woman for slapping you.

I guess "You" would, I would ******* die of shame and embarassment on the spot if I did.

Joe

 

[SteelBuckeye]

funny thing, the video shared by Steel Not A Player is not even the complete video as posted at TMZ ... If you follow the link below to their site and watch their video, you'll see Rice lurking in the area before the elevator; waiting for Janay and at about the :08 mark, spitting on her as she walks past. Rice is clearly the instigator. And, he waits until they get on the elevator to escalate the conflict. In short, he's exactly the piece of **** he's being described as.



http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/08/ray-rice-elevator-knockout-fiancee-takes-crushing-punch-video/

Or see it at youtube

 

[thesteelcity]

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/09/09/ray-rice-furor-longer-video-includes-obscenities-spitting/

All the major outlets are reporting this. She spit, not him.

And it's an elbow, which is why his head snaps back. More importantly it's why she was initially charged and why Rice was given diversion by the courts instead of a formal charge. She started the fight, and there's really no two ways about it.

really? From your link, here is a reply to the story. . . seems that "Kelly" sees it as I do or better yet, what the video shows:

Kelly • 4 hours ago
In the longer video, Rice clearly spits on her and she slaps him. And then when they get into the elevator, he squares off and spits on her again and she slaps him again, leading into the left hook that put her into the handrail and knocked her out.

 

[Buster]

I've watched over and over and cannot see where she spit on him.

 

[Steel Not A Player]

funny thing, the video shared by Steel Not A Player is not even the complete video as posted at TMZ ... If you follow the link below to their site and watch their video, you'll see Rice lurking in the area before the elevator; waiting for Janay and at about the :08 mark, spitting on her as she walks past. Rice is clearly the instigator. And, he waits until they get on the elevator to escalate the conflict. In short, he's exactly the piece of **** he's being described as.

Oh Jesus Christ. He tried to kiss her as she walked by, because she's clearly the one upset. If he spit on her, why didn't she wipe her face? You mean she just kept on walking with a face full of spit? Come on man. I hate the Ravens as much as anyone, but the bias has gone too far.

She put about as much force behind that slap as your average 10 year old boy. Would you be ok with Ray if he had cold cocked a 10 year old kid too?

Men are stronger than women. If a woman slaps you, you stop her from doing it again, you don't ******* cold **** her. And that's if your just an average guy. For ***** sake, if your a profesional football player, you would really think you wouldn't actually PUNCH a woman for slapping you.

I guess "You" would, I would ******* die of shame and embarassment on the spot if I did.

Joe

And I repeat: if she throws no blows, no blows are thrown. Bottom line. In the immortal words of Agent J, "Don't start none, won't be none."

You seem to have serious problem with female accountability. Women, to hear you tell it, should be completely immune to prosecution or responsibility of any kind for their actions. Why? Because they're smaller. And like I said to Farva, that justfies all kinds of bullshit, like Al Queda attacking the US because they're smaller. We should just let that slide too right?

I've watched over and over and cannot see where she spit on him.

This has only been reported. The video showing her spitting has not yet been released.

 

[t-man]

Oh Jesus Christ. He tried to kiss her as she walked by, because she's clearly the one upset. If he spit on her, why didn't she wipe her face? You mean she just kept on walking with a face full of spit? Come on man. I hate the Ravens as much as anyone, but the bias has gone too far.



And I repeat: if she throws no blows, no blows are thrown. Bottom line. In the immortal words of Agent J, "Don't start none, won't be none."

You seem to have serious problem with female accountability. Women, to hear you tell it, should be completely immune to prosecution or responsibility of any kind for their actions. Why? Because they're smaller. And like I said to Farva, that justfies all kinds of bullshit, like Al Queda attacking the US because they're smaller. We should just let that slide too right?



This has only been reported. The video showing her spitting has not yet been released.

So, 10 year old boy, same thing, adult cold cocks him. We good? I'm just trying to see where you draw the line for when a slap gets a punch, or if it's just women that you are ok with getting punched for a slap. Or is it kids too. How about a little old lady? Or even an old man, say 80 years old, slaps a Ray Rice, drop that geezer? Yes?

Joe

 

[thesteelcity]

This has only been reported. The video showing her spitting has not yet been released.

whaaat? That means everything if it didn't occur in the elevator or even right before they got into it. Was it over dinner? Did she do it a week before they hit Atlantic City? Wow. She didn't provoke him, as you are saying to be punched and knocked out.

 

[Steel Not A Player]

So, 10 year old boy, same thing, adult cold cocks him. We good? I'm just trying to see where you draw the line for when a slap gets a punch, or if it's just women that you are ok with getting punched for a slap. Or is it kids too. How about a little old lady? Or even an old man, say 80 years old, slaps a Ray Rice, drop that geezer? Yes?

Joe

That's just it, she's not a 10 year old. She's a full grown woman with all the legal responsibilities of such a status. You are aware that women have killed men. That women have beaten men to death.

She's not a kid. She's an adult. Adults have to be accountable for their actions. At what point are you going to admit that she's responsible for escalating a CONVERSATION to VIOLENCE? At what point will you allow her to be accountable for herself?

This has only been reported. The video showing her spitting has not yet been released.

whaaat? That means everything if it didn't occur in the elevator or even right before they got into it. Was it over dinner? Did she do it a week before they hit Atlantic City? Wow. She didn't provoke him, as you are saying to be punched and knocked out.

The reason this video is so jumpy is that it's been edited. Chunks of it are missing, particularly at the beginning when both are still talking. Also, the full video has sound. TMZ cut parts out of it to make her look more sympathetic and the audio of her cursing and spitting is pretty damning which is WHY there is no sound. Harvey Levin is a raving liberal, just in case you didn't know.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Can't watch a ****** football show this week without hearing more about this bullshit. Enough already. Talk some football.

 

[Steel Not A Player]

Can't watch a ****** football show this week without hearing more about this bullshit. Enough already. Talk some football.

It was on every sports radio show...

...all day. Jim Rome did his whole 3 hours on it. I didn't even bother with Cowherd, I just gave up.

 

[diver]

It was on every sports radio show...

...all day. Jim Rome did his whole 3 hours on it. I didn't even bother with Cowherd, I just gave up.

Because everybody wants to get on board and show their righteous indignation.

Everyday all over the world this and worse is happening to women who are not associated with a famous athlete. Nobody gives a ****. Spare me. Jim Rome and his ilk, unless you were out there volunteering time to a woman's shelter or something like that, shut the **** up and stick to sports.

 

[steel pirate]

Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attack on Janae Parker. Malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from Ray Rice himself.

 

[Stainless]

My parents taught me at an early age that if a man is going to hit a woman in the face, he better be using his penis.

 

[south dakota STEEL]

My parents taught me at an early age that if a man is going to hit a woman in the face, he better be using his penis.

Your parents are very wise...

 

[madinsomniac]

SO parroting some more disturbed Ravens fans... if the Ravens didn't know this was coming, please explain the Webb restructure two weeks ago. they randomly pushed 4 million dollars of his contract into the future, or roughly what Rice will cost them in cap space this season now, and never made a move with the money. they weren't so close to the cap that they needed this for emergency moves and they certainly didn't make any offers to any free agents that we know of... also they recalled another RB from the practice squad before this all broke.... they called a guy they just signed to the squad up when it looked like Rice would be back in a week... seems like an odd move for an NFL team to load up that position with a star about to return
That's a mighty big coincidence if they did not know anything about this at all. If they heard rumors about the tape, then why didn't they ask to see it? Every NFL team has private investigators on call that look into player mishaps and draft pick potentials and all sorts of stuff... are they just that incompetent?

 

[Steel Not A Player]

Because everybody wants to get on board and show their righteous indignation.

Everyday all over the world this and worse is happening to women who are not associated with a famous athlete. Nobody gives a ****. Spare me. Jim Rome and his ilk, unless you were out there volunteering time to a woman's shelter or something like that, shut the **** up and stick to sports.

And let me make this point clear: I do not approve of what Ray Rice did, if for no other reason than he ****** up his whole life with this.

I would never, EVER advocate for a woman or child to be struck by a man. Ray is wrong for hitting her. But that doesn't mean that she didn't have it coming, she did. Nobody should be escalating to violence. Not men, and not women. She gets no free pass for having a vagina.

Women demand equal rights. And I'm fine with that. But it's time they took equal responsibility.

 

[t-man]

That's just it, she's not a 10 year old. She's a full grown woman with all the legal responsibilities of such a status. You are aware that women have killed men. That women have beaten men to death.

She's not a kid. She's an adult. Adults have to be accountable for their actions. At what point are you going to admit that she's responsible for escalating a CONVERSATION to VIOLENCE? At what point will you allow her to be accountable for herself?




The reason this video is so jumpy is that it's been edited. Chunks of it are missing, particularly at the beginning when both are still talking. Also, the full video has sound. TMZ cut parts out of it to make her look more sympathetic and the audio of her cursing and spitting is pretty damning which is WHY there is no sound. Harvey Levin is a raving liberal, just in case you didn't know.

Right, cause conservates know that sometimes ******* needs a punch in the face to keep em in line, but those panzy liberals, well, if a woman slaps em, they just wuss out and restrain her till she calms down, instead of punching her in the face like the ***** deserves. Right?

Man, true ******* colors sure do come out in droves when something like this goes on.

Nice sidestep on the "what about an old man" question, because we all know anyone who would pop an 80 year old in the face after getting slapped is a peice of ****, but if it's a *****, well **** her, **** had it coming.

Un ******* be lieve a ble.

Joe

 

[Steel G]

And let me make this point clear: I do not approve of what Ray Rice did, if for no other reason than he ****** up his whole life with this.

I would never, EVER advocate for a woman or child to be struck by a man. Ray is wrong for hitting her. But that doesn't mean that she didn't have it coming, she did. Nobody should be escalating to violence. Not men, and not women. She gets no free pass for having a vagina.

Women demand equal rights. And I'm fine with that. But it's time they took equal responsibility.

"I do not approve of what Ray Rice did! But now, here's a bunch of bullshit that excuses his actions!"

 

[CoolieMan]

All reports are that she spit, not him.

And you can clearly see her elbow him in the face at :12 seconds before he even moves. So you're just factually wrong.

and you are factually a ******* idiot. whatever contact her arm may have made, was not going to injury mini ray ray. He then slams her into the wall and when she advances again yelling at him, he ******* punches her like she was some kind of real threat, He and any douchebag who would punch a woman in the face deserves anything that happens to him. No matter how you try to justify it, there is no ******* reason for him to have punched her like that. Yes,, women can be the aggressor, but unless they are armed they are not a real threat. mini ray ray is a well conditioned NFL athlete. He is used to being hit by people a whole lot tougher than this little woman. Trying to justify a punch to a woman's face over the **** shown in these videos is ******* idiotic.

 

[CoolieMan]

And let me make this point clear: I do not approve of what Ray Rice did, if for no other reason than he ****** up his whole life with this.

I would never, EVER advocate for a woman or child to be struck by a man. Ray is wrong for hitting her. But that doesn't mean that she didn't have it coming, she did. Nobody should be escalating to violence. Not men, and not women. She gets no free pass for having a vagina.

Women demand equal rights. And I'm fine with that. But it's time they took equal responsibility.

nothing in this shows you disapprove of mini ray ray's actions. No women should not expect to be punched in the face by a grown *** man.....you ARE justifying what mini ray ray did....and like him you are a little *****

 

[Steel Not A Player]

Right, cause conservates know that sometimes ******* needs a punch in the face to keep em in line, but those panzy liberals, well, if a woman slaps em, they just wuss out and restrain her till she calms down, instead of punching her in the face like the ***** deserves. Right?

Slow down now hoss, I'm not saying all that. I'm just saying that the women's advocates are who the liberals pander to. That's all. I think reasonable people can agree on that. It's why Obama said he wouldn't let his kids play football. Pandering to women's groups. Nothing more, nothing less.

Nice sidestep on the "what about an old man" question, because we all know anyone who would pop an 80 year old in the face after getting slapped is a peice of ****, but if it's a *****, well **** her, **** had it coming.

Joe

It's not a side step, you're comparing apples to oranges. Kids are not adults. Period. As for old people, case by case basis. This was a young woman in her prime, not some frail 80 year old who can barely stand up on his own. Not really a good comparison.

And yes, when she decided to use violence instead of words she had it coming. It doesn't make him right, but it does make her wrong. If you park your convertible in a bad neighborhood with the keys in it you deserve what happens to you for being irresponsible. Does that mean the thief has a RIGHT to steal it? Hell no. But it does mean you deserve to have your ride stolen.

 

[Steel Not A Player]

and you are factually a ******* idiot. whatever contact her arm may have made, was not going to injury mini ray ray. He then slams her into the wall and when she advances again yelling at him, he ******* punches her like she was some kind of real threat, He and any douchebag who would punch a woman in the face deserves anything that happens to him. No matter how you try to justify it, there is no ******* reason for him to have punched her like that. Yes,, women can be the aggressor, but unless they are armed they are not a real threat. mini ray ray is a well conditioned NFL athlete. He is used to being hit by people a whole lot tougher than this little woman. Trying to justify a punch to a woman's face over the **** shown in these videos is ******* idiotic.

So your position here is that women should be given full legal immunity and impunity to use violence against men as they see fit?

So if Coolieman slaps his wife, but it doesn't do any damage, it's OK? Because this is the position that you're taking. Violence is ok so long as there's not "real threat". If you point a dull knife or an empty gun at a cop it's ok because it's not a "real threat"?

Your position is ridiculous.

And this is to say nothing of the fact that if she doesn't hit him in the face NONE OF THIS HAPPENS.

nothing in this shows you disapprove of mini ray ray's actions. No women should not expect to be punched in the face by a grown *** man.....you ARE justifying what mini ray ray did....and like him you are a little *****

I disapprove of Ray Rice's actions. But in the law we have something called "mitigating circumstances". Being attacked first, in every single state in the union, is a legal mitigating circumstance. The DA in this case saw all the videos in full and chose not to formally charge Rice for good reason: the video shows her as the aggressor.

District Attorneys are, generally speaking, sociopaths. They care nothing of right and wrong or guilt. They care whether or not they can get a conviction or force a plea which will add to their stats and help their careers. They don't drop slam dunk domestic cases. Ever. So this video wass damning TO HER, not him.