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Coach said:
Do you have a better source than this one, which says Claypool only had one drop?

https://Invalid Link - Check SN Hom...eelers-receivers-drop-the-ball-versus-ravens/

Please list your source. Thanks.

Johnson gets some easy passes, yet he leads the team in drops. The worst of which if you saw the game was a pass that was easy and hit his hands. The only one who watch the games for sure that have proof is those who post in the game day thread right after something happens, which in case you were unaware I am a part of. So I'm watching.
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his source is him re-watching the game to check this type of stuff. Drops can be subjective. Not everyone will view the play the same way but typically if the ball hits the receiver in the hands and no defender makes contact with the ball or the receivers hands or arms...it is a drop

I have no doubts that cope watches the games multiple times.

I do doubt you watch complete games since you have admitted previously to not watching games you were trying to discuss
 
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Cope said:
I watched the game and took notes. Try doing it sometime, it helps to open your mind to game strategy.

Though I gave Claypool a lesser drop on the one he was defended on. Still hit him in the hands, so he should have had it. The defender hit his body, not his arms, hands or ball.
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If the refs were better the defender got there before the ball did.
 
CoolieMan said:
no you are actually using someone else's research to support your thoughts.

why the **** should we find all the stats for you?

okay and how many targets did he have 11 games into the season last year?
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Is the the same dude that said cope bringing facts.......

I think so. I've got plenty of facts too.

If you want more I can tell you Johnson's ball security and drops were a problem in college. Indeed he had 17 dropped passes in three seasons. Trust me or do your own re-search

PS: I've asked for Cope's source on Claypool's two drops vs the Ravens. I count one.
 
CoolieMan said:
his source is him re-watching the game to check this type of stuff. Drops can be subjective. Not everyone will view the play the same way but typically if the ball hits the receiver in the hands and no defender makes contact with the ball or the receivers hands or arms...it is a drop

I have no doubts that cope watches the games multiple times.

I do doubt you watch complete games since you have admitted previously to not watching games you were trying to discuss
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Yup. Watch the first time for fun, then take notes the 2nd time, then start breaking down plays on the coach's film. I then do my As The Game Turns and Hidden Play videos when I'm done watching the 2nd time.

The first time watching, I'm too emotional, but I usually notice things (like the **** snap on our first FG that Barry saved for us). I can go more into technique and strategy after the 2nd watch. Some plays I may watch 5-10 times to break down the nuances in them.

And Coach, like I said the fist time, my source was my own eyes, and my experience from playing WR. Clay was lucky he wasn't officially credited for that 2nd drop, because he should have had it.
 
Coach said:
Is the the same dude that said cope bringing facts.......

I think so. I've got plenty of facts too.

If you want more I can tell you Johnson's ball security and drops were a problem in college. Indeed he had 17 dropped passes in three seasons. Trust me or do your own re-search

PS: I've asked for Cope's source on Claypool's two drops vs the Ravens. I count one.
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You have no facts as you watch no film. Which it is even funnier you telling anyone to do their own research. This coming from a guy that stole other peoples **** and tried to pass it off as his own.

You also are a habitual liar so nobody should believe anything you say.
 
Coach said:
Is the the same dude that said cope bringing facts.......

I think so. I've got plenty of facts too.

If you want more I can tell you Johnson's ball security and drops were a problem in college. Indeed he had 17 dropped passes in three seasons. Trust me or do your own re-search

PS: I've asked for Cope's source on Claypool's two drops vs the Ravens. I count one.
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I told you cope's source. He watched the game
 
Cope said:
Yup. Watch the first time for fun, then take notes the 2nd time, then start breaking down plays on the coach's film. I then do my As The Game Turns and Hidden Play videos when I'm done watching the 2nd time.

The first time watching, I'm too emotional, but I usually notice things (like the **** snap on our first FG that Barry saved for us). I can go more into technique and strategy after the 2nd watch. Some plays I may watch 5-10 times to break down the nuances in them.

And Coach, like I said the fist time, my source was my own eyes, and my experience from playing WR. Clay was lucky he wasn't officially credited for that 2nd drop, because he should have had it.
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absolutely no way to keep track of stuff during the live broadcast....way to much stress.....and booze
 
Cope does fundamental research, from watching film, noting stats, etc.

like teams, coaches do.

cooch finds websites that he can get info from and/or plagiarize.

like "fans" with esteem issues do.

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Confluence said:
Cope does fundamental research, from watching film, noting stats, etc.

like teams, coaches do.

cooch finds websites that he can get info from and/or plagiarize.

like "fans" with esteem issues do.

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I also am a stat hound. I utilize pro football reference, and now, thanks to my job here, have full access to PFF. So my articles may get a bit more stat based. Stats are great, but sometimes they don't make sense. just like the draft process, you have to review the tape to see if the stats make sense.
 
Cope said:
I also am a stat hound. I utilize pro football reference, and now, thanks to my job here, have full access to PFF. So my articles may get a bit more stat based. Stats are great, but sometimes they don't make sense. just like the draft process, you have to review the tape to see if the stats make sense.
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Sure hope you don’t use PFF as a barometer for stats Cope. It’s not objective and extremely biased. Most of the players think it’s a joke. The only reason it’s gone mainstream is because of NBC has rights to it.


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Ike Kelly said:
Sure hope you don’t use PFF as a barometer for stats Cope. It’s not objective and extremely biased. Most of the players think it’s a joke. The only reason it’s gone mainstream is because of NBC has rights to it.


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There are still some good stats on there, but player eval is all over the place.
 
Cope said:
I also am a stat hound. I utilize pro football reference, and now, thanks to my job here, have full access to PFF. So my articles may get a bit more stat based. Stats are great, but sometimes they don't make sense. just like the draft process, you have to review the tape to see if the stats make sense.
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There's nothing wrong with using stats.
 
slashsteel said:
You have no facts as you watch no film. Which it is even funnier you telling anyone to do their own research. This coming from a guy that stole other peoples **** and tried to pass it off as his own.

You also are a habitual liar so nobody should believe anything you say.
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Lair liar, go **** yourself. It might be the only action you'll get anyway.
 
Coach said:
Lair liar, go **** yourself. It might be the only action you'll get anyway.
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which part is a lie? we all know you have posted many topics and used information from other sites without linking to the site or saying "i saw this on..."

or the film watching...since you have said numerous times you just watch highlights
 
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Coach said:
Lair liar, go **** yourself. It might be the only action you'll get anyway.
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So angry you are. I went from a trailer to a dumpster to getting no action. Wow your make believe world is almost as crazy as your draft approach and lack of football knowledge. Speaking of liars how is that Datsun B210 luxury vehicle doing? (pretends to be rich and then gets deathly afraid to give up his address) I think most fans know who the liar is here sport.

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Tough crowd.

We are blessed to have numerous skilled WRs. Even more blessed that they have different aspects of their skillsets that are their dominant traits (Dj - shifty, precise routes, JuJu - clutch, tough, usually sure handed, Washington - combat catches and sneakily good at catching the deep ball, Claypool - size, strength, speed freak who has a little toughness to him, RayRay - small sample size, but the lowest drop percentage on the team (I read that somewhere; think it was DK's site) and might be the fastest WR on the team). Let's enjoy them all ... and yell at the TV the next time DJ lets one clank off his hands or Claypool veers towards the sideline making a catchable ball uncatchable ... Then thank God when they redeem themselves with a drive saving play/TD.
 
We have 4 legit dangerous WR's and a dangerous catching TE. And they have no egos.
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I kinda feel as though Ebron has a bit of an ego...
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
Dionte is the best WR on the team
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Ummm. Ya I don't know about that. I think he has tremendous potential. Personally, I suspect Johnson, at his very best, could be around 85% of Brown (if that makes sense.)

But right now, for whatever reason he just isn't consistent. I don't trust him to catch the ball when it's thrown to him. He can be open as the day is long and it won't matter if he only catches the ball 6 times out of 10. I sincerely hope that Cope and others have identified fixable issues with his technique that can make him a more reliable receiver.

Now when you say "the best receiver on the team" we have to determine similar criteria for what makes a receiver "the best". Is it the probability for breaking a big play? Well then it's likely Claypool. Is it the ability to get 1st downs? One could argue that either JuJu or Johnson are the best options there. Is it the guy who most often makes the clutch catches when you need them most? Then you might feel as though James Washington is the best receiver on the team. Is it the guy who is most likely to catch whatever you throw at him? Well, again you are likely looking at JuJu then.

Sure, I'll say Johnson has the most upside, (although that argument could be made for Claypool) but I'm not at all ready to concede that he's the "best receiver on the team."
 
I went from a trailer to a dumpster to getting no action.
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I heard Slash was actually a refuge in a 3rd World shithole country and he had to sell his own urine. Sadly there's not much of a urine market in 3rd World shitholes.

Slash, have you considered Amazon? They'll deliver ANYTHING, ANYWHERE. You could really explode your urine biz.
 
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