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Deflategate Investigation: Complete ... Awaiting Report.

I have no doubt that Marsha comes out of this mess with a salary increase at least equal to the pay she will lose.....just like Darth Hoodie got a nice bump in an amount exactly the same as his fine in Spygate.

The league needs to watch for the willful circumvention of its discipline again.
 
Confluence said:
I have no doubt that Marsha comes out of this mess with a salary increase at least equal to the pay she will lose.....just like Darth Hoodie got a nice bump in an amount exactly the same as his fine in Spygate.

The league needs to watch for the willful circumvention of its discipline again.
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Agreed. Changing topic for a minute, I think Brady's appeal gets it down to a 1-game suspension.
 
Superman said:
coincidentally around the same time Brady's annual fumble total was cut in half.
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Yep and not even just Brady.. the whole team essentially stopped fumbling

Check out Benjarvus Green Ellis' career fumble stats:

Year Team Carries Fumbles
2008 NWE 74 0
2009 NWE 26 0
2010 NWE 229 0
2011 NWE 181 0
2012 CIN 278 3
2013 CIN 220 2
 
Former NFL quarterback A.J. Feeley says the Patriots were breaking the rules about properly preparing footballs long before Deflategate.

Feeley said on 97.5 The Fanatic that when he was playing for the Dolphins in 2004, he saw Patriots quarterback Tom Brady using old, broken-in balls at a time when NFL rules said that teams had to use new balls provided by the league.

“Prior to Tommy and Peyton Manning going to the league and saying, ‘Let us doctor our balls’ we used to all play with the same balls,” Feeley said. “Somehow this beat-up ball from the ball boy was getting thrown in on offense for New England, yet when we were on offense this orange brand new ball was getting thrown in.”

Feeley says Brady was getting an advantage, and Feeley had a problem with it.

“He’s getting his own balls thrown in on offense,” Feeley said. “That was an issue to me at the time. . . . We saw it then.”
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I'm disgusted, but not surprised, by the amount of media talking heads now acting like this "punishment" is too much. Peter King, Dan Patrick, Kornheiser, just a few of the idiots I've heard over the last 24 hours. It was a nothing punishment to begin with and once Br*dy gets his reduced, it'll be even less impressive. What a joke.
 
I sort of have a problem with the NFL as much with the Patriots with much of these so-called "cheating" events.

While I certainly agree the Patriots pushed and bent the rules to their liking more-so than many other teams, there was also a clear lack of enforcement of the rules by the NFL and it's referees for DECADES.

It's easy to jump up and down and yell "Cheaters!" now but I sort of feel Brady (and likely many other quarterbacks) were tampering with the football long before any of this became a story. To what degree and extent each quarterback in the league tampered with the footballs, I have no clue. I'm sure there was a wide spectrum.

But the lack of enforcement and lack of interest on many, many issues (including the video tape issues, communication issues, etc.) by the NFL league office and the game day referees and the lack of consistent discipline (many things got slap on the wrists for years), doesn't feel fair to me that now the league decides to change course and consider minor infractions (asI consider spygate and deflategate and artificial noise and texts to the sideline and warming up footballs) to be very serious infractions.

In many ways, this whole situation feels like when the league all of sudden decided to ramp up it's penalties for illegal hits. We (i.e. Steeler Nation) complained strongly about the sudden increase in fines/suspensions for many Steelers players that got caught in that first year for illegal hits. I think if I was a Patriot fan, while I would agree to the fact of breaking the rules (just like I agreed that Harrison DID illegally hit some players that year), I might disagree with the sudden, drastic increase in the penalty as compared to similar ball tampering events in the past.

Again, the league is deciding fates based on the which way the public wind is blowing. That's their right. Just not sure I agree with it (now or when it happened to Harrison or when it happened to Roethlisberger).

I know they are different events, but the punishments all seem similarly dictated more by public opinion than by fair, historic comparisons.
 
It's like they're saying it's the biggest outrage since Al Capone went to prison for tax evasion.

People don't seem to get that the punishment for deflating footballs in one game is actually for more than deflating footballs in one game.
 
The smoking gun, er texts that nailed New England

''What drove the decision in this report is one thing: It was the evidence,'' Wells said. ''I could not ethically ignore the import and relevancy of those text messages and the other evidence.''

Wells specifically mentioned two series of text exchanges between officials' locker room attendant Jim McNally and equipment assistant John Jastremski. In one, McNally referred to himself as ''the Deflator'' and joked about going to ESPN. In another, Jastremski mentioned speaking to Brady the previous night, saying the quarterback knew McNally was stressed out by needing to deflate the balls.

''That is not circumstantial evidence,'' Wells said. ''That is two of the participants in a scheme discussing what has taken place.''

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-in...ct-evidence-against-brady-185753127--nfl.html
 
"I'm not going to ESPN... yet."
 
wig said:
"I'm not going to ESPN... yet."
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The guy should. He's fired and out of the NFL for life. Why not make some extra $$$. A rat does not need to loyal to another rat who had him 86'd.
 
deljzc said:
Again, the league is deciding fates based on the which way the public wind is blowing. That's their right. Just not sure I agree with it (now or when it happened to Harrison or when it happened to Roethlisberger).

I know they are different events, but the punishments all seem similarly dictated more by public opinion than by fair, historic comparisons.
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The NFL employee pissed off the NFL customer, hurt the company image and the integrity of its product as well for the second time in less than a decade.

Harrison and Roethlisberger were only guilty of the first two at most. So the comparison isn't quite valid.
 
I say we let the OTHER team supply the **'s balls.

I'd also let the other teams give them their game film too. Let them stare at static and throw cement filled footballs for a season or two. No competitive disadvantage at all.

I'm still trying to figure out why the equipment guys got a lifetime ban from the NFL. Were they not just doing exactly what they were told? Do THEY not get to appeal? I mean their livelihood has just been utterly destroyed by this.

Let's take a look at the picture of a couple guys who's lives have just been completely ruined by this thing. They flat-*** don't have jobs now. If I were the NFL, I'd be paying VERY close attention to their tax returns over the next few years. If I were an independent investigator interested in a book, I'd do the same thing. Either those guys are going to talk, or they're going to stay quiet and if they stay quiet, they're going to do so for a damn good reason.
 
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Coach said:
The guy should. He's fired and out of the NFL for life. Why not make some extra $$$. A rat does not need to loyal to another rat who had him 86'd.
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Kraft has already foreseen that eventuality. McNally is being or has been paid handsomely for his continued silence.
 
McNally will go on a global tour now, to clear his mind and conscience of this.

*paid for, of course, by Kraft and the NFL
 
Well its either a trip paid for by Kraft or a joy ride with A. Hernandez.
"I'll take the trip, Bob. As long as its not a German airline."
 
LOL, Harry Reid is pissed that the *'s got punished and the team in DC has not been punished or forced to change their name. **** you and the *'s, Harry Reid.
 
I'm stressed out by the unfairness of the treatment of the *'s. They are supposed to get away with everything
 
bermudasteel said:
I just don't understand why we need ANOTHER thread w/ the same topic as the ongoing/open one???
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This is the thrice-weekly "Coach needs to feel relevant and start a new thread (since it won't make sense to re-hash mocks for another couple weeks) thread".

SN is that excellent.
 
bermudasteel said:
I just don't understand why we need ANOTHER thread w/ the same topic as the ongoing/open one???
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Because people want to see their name in lights? Or, the mods tolerate it because they don't want everything combined in one 180-page thread like the legendary Archer thread.
 
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