Defensive Gameplan against the Bengals

[SojournerSteel]

I’m not even emotionally invested anymore. I watch out of morbid curiosity, am pleasantly surprised if they win, unaffected by losses.

I know they have zero shot at a ring as long as Tomlin remains, saving my energy and emotion for the next regime.

Tomlin/Art did that to many of us. The worst thing that could happen this year would be them eeking out a playoff win like they did 18-16 vs the Chiefs and Alex Smith and Tomlin getting even more entrenched than he already is.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Tomlin would not be able to hold the “undefeated season” anywhere else. He has total control over obtaining what ever it takes to obtain that component of his career.

Here he has been able to get pretty good talent and free rein over everything, I seriously doubt any other franchise would be this accommodating to the ground hog routine. There are those teams that would accept it, but not at the cost of what the STEELERS are paying to achieve it.

Highest paid defense and this is what we get. I’m sorry, TJ Watt should have never gotten the biggest paid non-QB (at the time) renewal. He will NOT give return on investment, Cam is another overpaid defensive player. There are a few to follow, but that is how you get to the $$$$ part of over-pay.

Other team’s sub-coaching slowly leave until he had them weeded out to similar here.

Other than what he inherits form said team, will determine how fast he deaerates to lowering his standard of wins.




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[Fiji Mariner]

They shoulda ripped the band aid off after Jacksonville and this becomes more apparent every year. He was as lost that day as he was in Cinci.

At this point they should fire Austin and make Mike step up to the plate as acting DC. All these players that go to bat and claim to love him can report directly to him. No more scapegoats, no more shields. We all know it his defense, but let’s remove all doubt and have him show his prowess as this elite player’s coach or hit the bricks.

It is beyond put up or shut time for Mike.

Pittsburgh needs a “real hand in the pile” HC and the HC must be held accountable at some point. It’s not like he’s doing anything important on gameday, let him call the plays since he’s such a genius. It really can’t be worse than Austin.

 

[Drink IRON City]

At this point they should fire Austin and make Mike step up to the plate as acting DC. All these players that go to bat and claim to love him can report directly to him. No more scapegoats, no more shields. We all know it his defense, but let’s remove all doubt and have him show his prowess as this elite player’s coach or hit the bricks.

It is beyond put up or shut time for Mike.

Pittsburgh needs a “real hand in the pile” HC and the HC must be held accountable at some point. It’s not like he’s doing anything important on gameday, let him call the plays since he’s such a genius. It really can’t be worse than Austin.

I think even as little credit you give Austin, is still to much. I think Tomlin is already calling defensive, just not accountable to that identity / knowledge.

It’s been 10 years since the put up or shut up should have been enforced.



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[xjx]

Tomlin called the defense when Butler was here. Butler even said so. Tomlin still calls the defense. He's a control freak.

 

[diver]

I saw something from Kaboly and I can't find it. Anyway, it was in reference to the terrible gameplan Thursday night on defense and lack of adjustments. How the Steelers didn't jam and allowed all those quick hitters. So they put a picture up of the line of scrimmage of the play late in the game when Higgins beats Ramsey at the end. And in the still, Ramsey is right up on the line to jam Higgins.

I don't think anyone knows what they are talking about with this team. You don't know what to believe.

 

[steel dino]

IMO…
And in my KISS reasoning that I like to apply on most things about sports and life for that matter..
Here yinz go:

Secondary… mostly the corners are past their or prime or overrated… I.e. Porter.
If pass rush is not disruptive.. at the very least with just pressures, the back end is extremely suspect.. especially the current corners.

Going forward we absolutely need to play Pierre, Echols, and Trice when healthy more.

I am really confused as to why Pierre doesn’t play more often and the coaching staff does not trust him.?
I know he ain’t Deion Sanders but imho, he makes plays and is usually at least in the wideouts same zip code!

I really love Trices potential and the small tape he has been able to show.. the kid just needs to stay healthy, and I believe he will be a solid starter in this league!

And draft a corner number one or two next year..

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Litos]

Tomlin called the defense when Butler was here. Butler even said so. Tomlin still calls the defense. He's a control freak.

Butler was a Muppet and we all knew it. Same with Austin

 

[NYSteel]

No matter how you slice it, the bottom line is pretty simple: the Steelers lack the players needed to execute the chosen scheme.

We've got a collection of over-30 former pro bowlers that can't play the way they used to be able to. To make matters worse, we're paying them huge $$.

Watt, when younger, had a similar effect as Lawrence Taylor on the 80s Giants teams... A single player who could change games. Those days are apparently gone.

Defense has allowed 30+ points in 3 of 6 games so far... Hard to imagine there won't be a bunch more given the list of upcoming opposing QBs on the schedule.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

I think even as little credit you give Austin, is still to much. I think Tomlin is already calling defensive, just not accountable to that identity / knowledge.

It’s been 10 years since the put up or shut up should have been enforced.



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Yeah 100% true

I think I made almost the same post 3-5 years ago

Happy Groundhog’s Day!

 

[Fiji Mariner]

IMO…
And in my KISS reasoning that I like to apply on most things about sports and life for that matter..
Here yinz go:

Secondary… mostly the corners are past their or prime or overrated… I.e. Porter.
If pass rush is not disruptive.. at the very least with just pressures, the back end is extremely suspect.. especially the current corners.

Going forward we absolutely need to play Pierre, Echols, and Trice when healthy more.

I am really confused as to why Pierre doesn’t play more often and the coaching staff does not trust him.?
I know he ain’t Deion Sanders but imho, he makes plays and is usually at least in the wideouts same zip code!

I really love Trices potential and the small tape he has been able to show.. the kid just needs to stay healthy, and I believe he will be a solid starter in this league!

And draft a corner number one or two next year..

Just my 2 cents.

Pierre wasn’t that great when he played boundary before, definitely not pining for more of what he brings to the table. He’s a good special teamer, not starting caliber.

Trice has some potential but he got beat like a rented mule when up against Chase last year too.
He’s nice depth, if ever healthy, but not a guy I’d need to get reps for cuz his days in the NFL are likely numbered.

Echols does seem to be a decent slot addition.

The trio of Ramsey, Slay and Porter though…you nailed it with past their prime (Ramsey/Slay) and over rated (Porter).

So in the end they shelled out tons of money for groceries and have a cupboard stocked with past their expiration date products and overpriced name brands that aren’t that good.

I’m sure Tomlin’s genius will put together another great Steeler casserole though.

Just my 2 cents

 

[madinsomniac]

I saw something from Kaboly and I can't find it. Anyway, it was in reference to the terrible gameplan Thursday night on defense and lack of adjustments. How the Steelers didn't jam and allowed all those quick hitters. So they put a picture up of the line of scrimmage of the play late in the game when Higgins beats Ramsey at the end. And in the still, Ramsey is right up on the line to jam Higgins.

I don't think anyone knows what they are talking about with this team. You don't know what to believe.

That particular play was what Tomlin was scared about all game... Ramsey jammed him as per the austin D, but higgans still beat him up the sidelines... that play was on Ramsey, who lost sight of the ball and slowed up letting higgans get past him... but most of the game they were playing to keep that play from happening and handing them the slants and crosses

 

[Drink IRON City]

Yeah 100% true

I think I made almost the same post 3-5 years ago

Happy Groundhog’s Day!

Yeppers, I’m there as well,……….. Even my post(s) seem to be Groundhog Day enjoyable…………..




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