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Covid Vaccine

Badcat said:
WE? are you working at Pfizer or Monderna as a virologist? lol...I highly doubt that. You can't pen a constructed sentence properly.

But please, elaborate on this thought of yours. Deep thoughts with Coach.
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He has to pay for that luxury automobile somehow.
 
I still ain't buyin' none of it.....

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Steelworth said:
Oh you're "quite certain", well now that's science! OMG!
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I can provide multiple sources that point to the unvaccinated fueling West Virginia’s Delta surge, please provide a source that blames the obese for the surge.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
You're guessing because it confirms your confirmation bias.




Not one scientific community has dismissed the fact that obesity and COVID go hand in hand with deaths.


It used to be South Dakota Rubes.
North Dakota Rubes.
Florida Red Necks.

Why do you no longer speak of those states asshat?
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Bias is thinking obesity is to blame for West Virginia’s Delta surge and its low vaccination rate is coincidental. Source please.

SD, ND and Florida are all among the worst states all time for Covid cases and deaths. Rural SD and ND have no business being there.
 
BLITZ said:
so tying in a couple of threads here. so i am vaxxed/boosted and now have covid. 10 days quarantined but........ i dont feel bad, and I have so much food/water etc stocked away that it will not be an issue. always be prepared!!

ps need a couple good shows to watch if you have any ideas
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Not sure what you've seen/not seen, so in order of MUST SEE :

The Wire
Black Mirror
The Sopranos
Better Call Saul
Ozark
The Americans
Letterkenney
Ted Lasso
Chernobyl
Succession
Rescue Me
Squid Game
Oz
Trailer Park Boys
WandaVision
Cobra Kai
The League
GLOW
Atlanta
You
 
Troglodyte said:
That’s great, Tim. These people can hang their hat on that…

www.pastemagazine.com

At Least 7 Anti-Vaccine, Anti-Mask Conservative Activists Have Died of COVID-19 in Recent Weeks

At least several of them also changed their minds about vaccination before ultimately passing away, saying they should have received the vaccine.
www.pastemagazine.com www.pastemagazine.com
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As the waffle turns....

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And WOW. Anti-vax people dying of Covid! The horror! I heard some people that refused to listen to their doctors about losing weight and eating less fatty foods died of heart attacks last week too.

How many people do be die from Covid who vaccinated? Let me answer for you:

"There has been a SIGNIFICANT uptick in breakthrough infections, hospitalizations, and deaths...those who are already vaccinated are again at risk" - Dr. Anthony Fraudci.

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Sarge said:
I went to my doctor. Was tested for the flu. I tested positive for influenza A. Pretty clear test result.
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your doctor is raysiss
 
Troglodyte said:
It’s not the vaccines waning that’s the problem, it’s the unvaccinated…

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WRONG!!! You didn't even read your own article. They make bold claims and then attempt to justify them by explaining away the unvaccinated and their Herd Immunity. You can't possibly be this obtuse to believe everything you read

"For example, if people who were unvaccinated had been previously infected (and thus partly protected), this would make the vaccine effectiveness appear lower by comparison than earlier in the study when the unvaccinated group was less well protected."
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
As the waffle turns....

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And WOW. Anti-vax people dying of Covid! The horror! I heard some people that refused to listen to their doctors about losing weight and eating less fatty foods died of heart attacks last week too.

How many people do be die from Covid who vaccinated? Let me answer for you:

"There has been a SIGNIFICANT uptick in breakthrough infections, hospitalizations, and deaths...those who are already vaccinated are again at risk" - Dr. Anthony Fraudci.

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It’s not waffling, it’s you obtuseness missing the point.

Provide a qualified source that is suggesting people rely on getting natural immunity, I’ll wait.
 
Badcat said:
WRONG!!! You didn't even read your own article. They make bold claims and then attempt to justify them by explaining away the unvaccinated and their Herd Immunity. You can't possibly be this obtuse to believe everything you read

"For example, if people who were unvaccinated had been previously infected (and thus partly protected), this would make the vaccine effectiveness appear lower by comparison than earlier in the study when the unvaccinated group was less well protected."
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So you’re dismissing natural immunity? If not, how is that not a very valid point they’re making?
 
Troglodyte said:
So you’re dismissing natural immunity? If not, how is that not a very valid point they’re making?
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Because it's a very big assumption. The pesky "unvaccinated" could have been previously infected and, I love this part, "partially protected", and if so it would explain the stats that show the vaccine's ineffectiveness "appear" lower. The article is pure tripe!
 
Troglodyte said:
Bias is thinking obesity is to blame for West Virginia’s Delta surge and its low vaccination rate is coincidental. Source please.
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No, science is trusting what researchers have shown to be a causal link between Covid deaths and obesity. Want links? We've only posted these studies dozens of times. Have your lazy ******* *** go back and re-read the information we've given you.

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Troglodyte said:
SD, ND and Florida are all among the worst states all time for Covid cases and deaths. Rural SD and ND have no business being there.
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Negative. You're so full of misinformation and biases it's scary. New York and New Jersey are still far ahead of FL in deaths per million, and even further ahead of SD and ND. The latter aren't in the same discussion.
 
Troglodyte said:
I’m quite certain it has primarily to do with their very low vaccination rate. The ICU docs who were commenting on the prevalence of obesity in Covid patients prior to the vaccine are now commenting on the prevalence of the unvaccinated.

West Virginia’s hillbillies make poor health decisions be it diet and exercise or whether to get vaccinated or not.
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I am quite certain you are wrong. As usual.
 
Troglodyte said:
It’s not waffling, it’s you obtuseness missing the point.

Provide a qualified source that is suggesting people rely on getting natural immunity, I’ll wait.
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Seriously, you're mentally retarded. There is literally no other explanation for it. One of the stupidest people I've encountered in person or virtually. No...really.

Tim posts scientific study by the NEJM - those naturally immune are at immensely low risk of reinfection and super protected going forward.
Floggy - posts PASTE MAGAZINE - looky, some anti-vaxers died.

Your reply wasn't even connected to the topic, at all - the power of natural immunity.

Finally, provide a person here, me included, who is suggesting people go get infected. I'll wait. I fully expect you to come back in typical of late fashion and show a picture of a dump truck in response shouting "See there!!"
 
Troglodyte said:
That’s great, Tim. These people can hang their hat on that…

www.pastemagazine.com

At Least 7 Anti-Vaccine, Anti-Mask Conservative Activists Have Died of COVID-19 in Recent Weeks

At least several of them also changed their minds about vaccination before ultimately passing away, saying they should have received the vaccine.
www.pastemagazine.com www.pastemagazine.com
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so you're suggesting that anyone who has been vaxxed shot has not died?

so you're stating that the vaccine shot is a miracle ... is the miracle that Biden said it was, even though the manufacturers who produce it, the scientists who coded and study it, the doctors who see patients with and without the shot, the nurses who encounter those in hospitals with and without, all say the vaccine shot wanes and provides immunity forever and that there is absolutely zero "breatkthrough cases" and the term "breakthrough case" has never been mentioned until post 8,101 on page 325 of this very thread?
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
No, science is trusting what researchers have shown to be a causal link between Covid deaths and obesity. Want links? We've only posted these studies dozens of times. Have your lazy ******* *** go back and re-read the information we've given you.

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Negative. You're so full of misinformation and biases it's scary. New York and New Jersey are still far ahead of FL in deaths per million, and even further ahead of SD and ND. The latter aren't in the same discussion.
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No, obesity explains the difference in deaths between the obese and the non-obese, it doesn’t explain the difference in deaths between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated unless you’re claiming that only non-obese people got vaccinated. Science, Tim, science.

Misinformation is pointng to New York and New Jersey when the vast majority of their deaths were at the onset of the pandemic. They never came anywhere close to having the deaths in subsequent surges that they had in the initial surge, the same cannot be said for Florida, SD and ND.
 
VaCcInE nEvEr WaNeS!



 
Troglodyte said:
No, obesity explains the difference in deaths between the obese and the non-obese, it doesn’t explain the difference in deaths between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated unless you’re claiming that only non-obese people got vaccinated. Science, Tim, science.

Misinformation is pointng to New York and New Jersey when the vast majority of their deaths were at the onset of the pandemic. They never came anywhere close to having the deaths in subsequent surges that they had in the initial surge, the same cannot be said for Florida, SD and ND.
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now you wanna be make jokes. that was funny, though.
 
Troglodyte said:
I can provide multiple sources that point to the unvaccinated fueling West Virginia’s Delta surge, please provide a source that blames the obese for the surge.
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You do nothing but troll, ignore data that doesn't fit your little narrative and waffle - but you want ME to provide a source for YOU?

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Tim Steelersfan said:
Seriously, you're mentally retarded. There is literally no other explanation for it. One of the stupidest people I've encountered in person or virtually. No...really.

Tim posts scientific study by the NEJM - those naturally immune are at immensely low risk of reinfection and super protected going forward.
Floggy - posts PASTE MAGAZINE - looky, some anti-vaxers died.

Your reply wasn't even connected to the topic, at all - the power of natural immunity.

Finally, provide a person here, me included, who is suggesting people go get infected. I'll wait. I fully expect you to come back in typical of late fashion and show a picture of a dump truck in response shouting "See there!!"
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So your point isn’t for people to get infected to acquire natural immunity? Then what is it? What’s the viable alternative? Getting vaccinated, maybe?
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
If that statement had even a scintilla of proof, there wouldn't be a worldwide drive for boosters. The vaccines have waned...horribly. And everyone on the planet knows it, from the top down. Except....YOU.

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Read the article, Tim.
 
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