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Covid Vaccine
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Ha! Not only are you playing state roulette, now you’re playing date roulette. You follow one pathetic argument with another, not to mention its apples and oranges. WV offers a much more damning comparison of the October 1st date, why not use them as an example?
11X, Tim, 11X.
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No one is saying it is THE answer, only that it should be considered as part of a broader solution. At present, it is mostly dismissed in favor of a shot with a so many problems it prompted the CDC to change longstanding definitions of several words to cover their ***** over mediocre medicine.
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No difference? Australia has 162,000 cases all-time. 162,000.LOL
Virus Gonna Virus
We are almost two years into the plague di tutti plagues, the virus with a 3 in 1,000 death rate (give or take), which rounds down to roughly 0 in 1,000 for the non-elderly and morbidly obese.
Along the way, lots of different states and countries have pursued lots of different strategies, from Zero Covid to Zero Restrictions, from early vaccines to late vaccines to (basically) no vaccines.
Two years should be long enough to know who wore it best, amirite? So let’s go to the videotape!
Here’s the United Kingdom (heavy early lockdown, 70% vaccinated, tons of testing, just like the public health people want)
Erm. Not so good.
And here’s India (hard early lockdown, 20% fully vaccinated, very few with mRNA vaccines)
Okay, they had that big spikeroo in the spring, but they don’t look bad. But also they’re relatively young.
Now here’s Colombia (VERY hard early lockdown, 39% fully vaccinated)
Three, count them three, different waves, but nothing the last six months. Hmm. Maybe 39% vaccinated is the magic number?
Or maybe not. Because here’s Russia (light lockdowns, 33% vaccinated):
Mother Russia! Clearly some hard lockdowns are in order. And speaking of lockdowns, maybe Australia (SUPER hard lockdowns, explicit Zero Covid strategy, late but aggressive vaccinations) has the answer?
Looking good for a while, Australia… but not so much now.
It’s almost - hear me out, this is gonna sound CRAZEE - government strategies have made NO DIFFERENCE to the spread of this highly contagious but only moderately dangerous respiratory disease.
There is one exception, though.
I give you the People’s Republic of China, without which we wouldn’t be talking about the ro at all. Somehow Xi and Shi, the dear leader and the bat lady, have managed to make Covid go bye-bye - without a single jab of our fancy Western vaccines.
Virus gonna virus. And China gonna China.
It’s a miracle, I tell ya. A miracle!
OMG! How about rate roulette? Fate roulette? Ingrate roulette (you)?
OMG! Now care to tell us the size of Australia? And then the population?
Hint: it's the 6th largest land mass in the world while having an extremely low population density - it's actually one of the least densely populated places in the entire world. It actually may be the least densely populated for a large land mass.
Think maybe that factors into anything?
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That requires critical thinking outside of what he's told to believe. Never. Going. to . Happen.
Pffft, it's not like it's an island that immediately stopped all immigration into the country cuz Chinese ...
Wait.
Here is all you need to know - ALL you need to know - about Floggy and his selective Chinese flu panic:
- Raged about Donald Trump and Chinese flu.
- Has not offered one word - not ONE - critical of the country that created and released the virus.
- Has not offered one critical word about an administration which gleefully supports and encourages about 500,000 infected people to walk into the country.
Nuh uh.
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So everyone that isn’t vaccinated has natural immunity? Everyone that had Covid still has natural immunity? Link?
uh uh, but do they be gots milyuns of peepoze crossin dey boda?
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Didn’t stop The Dakota’s and Idaho from ******* the Covid pooch.
hear me out, China (THE ORIGIN OF THE VIRUS) has 96,840 all-time cases. 96,840.
After ten years of freeloading and posting stupid **** without support, good to see Floggy has learned the "link" request.
Again, you needed to have 21IQ contact a 2nd grader and speak with the 2nd grader to explain my post, but I am guessing the restraining order may preclude that. So it is once again up to me to explain the rudimentary facts to you. Here goes:
- You claim all should be vaccinated - ALL, MEANING ALL.
- That would include those with natural immunity.
- That would include those under 18 who basically don't need the vaccine and run risks of intentionally risking side effects for no reason.
So how many paychecks you miss with the lockdown? Must have been a lot since I cannot imagine somebody earning a bunch of money during the lockdowns and who insists on freeloading. I mean, what kind of low-life queef-sniffing, ****-licker would do that?!?
You talking to yourself now? Again, what about the land mass and extremely low population density of Australia?
And Idaho ****** the pooch with a 0.19% mortality rate? I'm not looking into the Dakotas, just not worth the energy, but I'm sure it's not like you make it out to be - bubble boy.
The thread of this typical illogical discourse with you began with you comparing WV and VT. So I played the MD card. See, each time you play state roulette, someone can counter with a state that obliterates that argument. That's why the game is dumb.
Instead, look at the nation. Last year, no vax. This year, more deaths than last year....with the majority of the country vaxed. Great work vaccines.
Oh you'll say it's the unvaxed driving the deaths. Yeah, with the majority of the country vaxed, and/or having natural immunity, that makes sense that that small % of people is driving higher deaths than last year. Right.
Let's look at some of the most vaccinated states and how they've done year over year in deaths:
Maryland - 66% fully vaxed, 77% partial:
Maryland 2020 deaths from 3/18/20 (first death) to 12/31/20 was 5,727 deaths
Maryland 2021 deaths from 1/1/21 to 10/26/21 are 4,869 deaths.
15% drop in deaths. Wow.
Vermont - 71% fully vaxed, 79% partial:
Vermont 2020 deaths - 136
Vermont 2021 deaths - 215
58% INCREASE in deaths. Huh?
New Hampshire - 63% fullly vaxed, 74% partial:
NH 2020 deaths - 759
NH 2021 deaths - 784
3% INCREASE in deaths
Maine - 70% fully vaxed, 76% partial:
Maine 2020 deaths - 347
Maine 2021 deaths - 775
123% INCREASE in deaths. What??
Oregon - 63% fully vaxed, 68% partial:
Oregon 2020 deaths - 1,477
Oregon 2021 deaths - 2,814
91% INCREASE in deaths
New Mexico - 66% fully vaxed, 76% partial:
NM 2020 deaths - 2,477
NM 2021 deaths - 2,525
2% INCREASE in deaths
Colorado - 61% fully vaxed, 67% partial:
CO 2020 deaths - 3,901
CO 2021 deaths - 4,462
14% INCREASE in deaths
California - 61% fully vaxed, 74% partial:
CA 2020 deaths - 26,164
CA 2021 deaths - 45,478
74% INCREASE in deaths
Now let's look at some of the least vaxed states and how they have fared.
South Dakota - 52% fully. vaxed, 61% partial:
South Dakota 2020 deaths - 1,488
South Dakota 2021 deaths - 770
48% DECREASE in deaths. Huh? But they are barely vaxed.
North Dakota - 46% vaxed, 53% partial:
ND 2020 deaths - 1,292
ND 2021 deaths - 426
62% DECREASE in deaths. What??
Louisiana - 47% fully vaxed, 54% partial:
LA 2020 deaths - 7,488
LA 2021 deaths - 6,992
7% DECREASE in deaths despite getting slammed by Delta
Missouri - 49% fully vaxed, 56% partial:
2020 deaths - 6,277
2021 deaths - 6,277
0% change
Indiana - 50% fully vaxed, 53% partial:
IN 2020 deaths - 9,490
IN 2021 deaths - 7,052
26% DECREASE in deaths
One can find exceptions to each one of these. Which illustrates why state roulette is dumb. For every state you point out as EVIDENCE, counter-evidence can be supplied.
Further, it shows there is zero consistency in the vaccines working or not. Highly unvaxed states are outperforming highly vaxed states and vice versa. Zero consistency.
Hell, even the worst state in the union at vaccination, WV, is 41% fully vaxed, 49% partial. Yet....their...deaths...are far above....last year. Logic would dictate that if the vaccines were effective, deaths would have dropped by some degree given half their population has the vaccine. Yet instead they increased by 118% over last year (still less than Maine's increase). It's as if vaccinating half the population (WV) and 75% of the population (ME) had no discernable effect.
Yet you and the illogical media still try to convince people that somehow 50% of WV's population drove more than double the deaths in 2021 than the state saw in 2020.
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Its the flu, bro
Perhaps you've not been paying attention. **** who am I kidding LOL you never do. Australia has implemented some of the most tyrannical, draconian measures in place on the planet. Vaccine mandates, prohibiting people from literally traveling between states, lockdowns. In New South Wales, home of Sydney, people were prohibited from moving further than 3 miles from their homes. The government sent in military personnel to enforce these measures. They've recently been under 7+ weeks of further lockdowns. Police and military personnel clash with their citizens. Arresting people for not wearing masks.
The result?
Who gives a rats *** about the absolute number of cases. Their case load now absolutely obliterates where they have been previously. Despite the draconian measures. It's as if they aren't working huh?
And to boot, 74.1% of people 16 and Down Under are fully vaxed. It's as if that isn't working either huh?
I'm with you brother. Applied for mine on the 11th. Massive company. HR continues to say we will get back to you in "weeks". Deadline is Dec 8 to get the jab.
What offends me is that they are "contemplating" requests for religious exemption. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act seems pretty cut and dry. What are they contemplating?
Title VII prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex and national origin. The term "religion" includes all aspects of religious observance and practice, as well as belief, unless an employer demonstrates that he is unable to reasonably accommodate to an employee's or prospective employee's religious observance or practice without undue hardship on the conduct of the employer's business.
As a Christian, I object to having aborted fetal cells injected in my body.
What's to contemplate?
I believe they are collecting all exemption requests to figure out what type of a class action suit they might face. Not sure. But to me it should be pretty simple in light of the act. If getting this jab goes against my religion, then to let me go would be religious persecution.
I bet if I said I was Muslim and the Koran said X, they'd have already given me my exemption.
For posterity's sake....
South Dakota - 52% fully. vaxed, 61% partial:
South Dakota 2020 deaths - 1,488
South Dakota 2021 deaths - 770
48% DECREASE in deaths despite being at the bottom of the list for vaccinated states
North Dakota - 46% vaxed, 53% partial:
ND 2020 deaths - 1,292
ND 2021 deaths - 426
62% DECREASE in deaths despite being at the bottom of the list for vaccinated states
Idaho - 43% fully vaxed, 49% partial:
ID 2020 deaths - 1,436
ID 2021 deaths - 1,992
39% INCREASE in deaths
It's almost as if, compared to the highly vaxed states, there's a high level of variability among the states. Hmmm.
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I’m aware. From February 2020…
China's ghost cities: fear of coronavirus leaves streets deserted
Residents say they are trapped in their own homes as the country grapples with the expanding outbreak
www.theguardian.com
He will conveniently try to waffle back to the deaths per million argument for S and N Dakota, just watch.
While forgetting that NY, NY, MA, RI all have higher deaths per million.
South Dakota currently ranks 14th in deaths per million, North Dakota ranks 24th. A while back they were both at the top of the list.
Funny how quickly that changed. As if their policies are working or something.
I’m aware. From February 2020…
China's ghost cities: fear of coronavirus leaves streets deserted
Residents say they are trapped in their own homes as the country grapples with the expanding outbreak
Clearly you don't get the point. Then again, one could glue the point to the tip of a crossbow arrow and lodge it between your eyes and you still wouldn't grasp it.
Anything seem odd about this?
Australia - pop. 25,888,470. Total cases: 162,026
China - pop. 1,439,323,776. Total cases: 96,840
Let's see if you can spot Waldo.
Is it intentional under-reporting or they have access to a WONDER drug more WONDERFUL than our vaccines?