Covid Vaccine

[Steeltime]

Dude, you’re unhinged again. See Indy’s post, he’s the one that claimed aliens were injected, not me. Amused that it pissed you off, though…

For a record one millionth consecutive time, the loser of losers, the Queen of queef, the stench of stink, Floggy the Irrelevant Gas Bag Fecal Sac posts a useless comment that fails to criticize China for the Chinese flu, developed in a lab and unleashed on the world!!

Come on down and accept the Xi Jinping Mass Murdering Flu Spokesman Award!!

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

So if you are going to post that, put some context with it so people using the “but millions of doses” argument… can see a comparison

Here are the flu vaccines distributed over the past decade or so

Historical Reference of Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Doses Distributed | CDC

Seasonal flu vaccine: total doses distributed provides a cumulative weekly total of the number of doses of flu vaccine distributed - CDC

www.cdc.gov

Made virtually the same way novavax is made… given to well over 100 million people annually, hardly any Adverse effects reported… sometimes some allergic reactions, some mild illness, extremely rare for anything severe

Mrna shots… tens of thousands of severe reactions within weeks… ho hum … nothing to see here…

194 Million doses of flu vaccine delivered. Barely any adverse events. Is that what you're saying?

 

[madinsomniac]

194 Million doses of flu vaccine delivered. Barely any adverse events. Is that what you're saying?

I mean the flu shots last year were half of the covid shots this year… and they target the same people, so one would think the vaers reports would be close to each other right?

 

[madinsomniac]

Pfizer Scientist: ‘Your Antibodies are Probably Better than the Vaccination’

Investigating and exposing corruption in both public and private institutions.

www.projectveritas.com

More gotcha journalism only everything the scientist says here is just immunity science 101… yeah reacting to the virus isn’t the same as reacting to the spike protein… Natural immunity is built to thwart all sorts of variants from the original virus… the vaccine is more narrowly focused…

I don’t think its really worthy of the “great journalism revelation” hype…. This is already a known thing… I’ve read what that guy said in about 30 various peoers through the years

 

[Troglodyte]

For ***** sake tool, an employee where he works took the jab and lost her baby. Could you be more an insensitive, daft prick?

Then you turn to Lester Holt? Where they say 160 pregnant women died from Covid, so get the jab? Are miscarriages also not deaths? Oh, wait, you're a Liberal and fetuses aren't humans.

This is yet again evidence that the choice of risk should be a personal choice whereby a person weighs their risks, and in the case of an expectant mother, her risks v the risks of her baby.

As vaccinations have increased, so too have miscarriages. You'll argue coincidence. You'll be wrong.

Over 500 miscarriages reported to VAERS in August. Reminder, VAERS receives 1% of all adverse events reported. So the numbers of actual miscarriages is FAR more.

Yes. Just yes. Women are having miscarriages by the hundreds per month. Compared to 160 deaths over 18 months (9 pregnant mothers a month die from Covid). 9 pregnant women died a month. Hundreds of fetuses lost per month.

Avoid the jab if expecting.

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You absolutely suck at this.

All you do is post numbers and declare causation. Perspective, Tim, perspective. It’s the intellectual thing to do…

COVID-19 vaccines don't raise miscarriage risk, 3 studies show

Pregnant women who received at least one dose are not at higher risk.

www.cidrap.umn.edu

 

[IndySteel]

https://www.oom2.com/t76890-new-mic...arasites-in-the-pfizer-biontech-covid-vaccine

 

[Troglodyte]

All the people running around saying the vaxes are safe. OK. Odds are with you if you get it that you won't die. I get it. Yet...

Liberals like to argue (here too) that excess deaths in 2020 correlate to the increase in deaths from Covid. Conversely, they will not accept a similar correlating rise like this. As these vaxes are introduced to the market, reported vaccine deaths to VAERS don't just increase. They explode.

These vaccines are far more dangerous than their predecessors combined.

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It’s not vaccine deaths, Tim.

 

[Troglodyte]

Wow. Seriously. I state what just happened. Wow

Because the vaccine had nothing to do with it. Feelings don’t change facts.

 

[IndySteel]

 

[Badcat]

https://www.oom2.com/t76890-new-mic...arasites-in-the-pfizer-biontech-covid-vaccine


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That's a bit far fetched Indy. I did some preliminary digging and the "Doctor" making these claims is a psychologist. If this has ANY legs, I'm sure the anti-vax doctors will start researching the claim and if it's in there...It'll be outed rather quickly.

 

[Steeltime]

To vile comrade Tibilo, useless idiot, mortality rates among the states:

U.S. COVID-19 death rate by state | Statista

Mississippi is the state with the highest rate of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S., followed by New Jersey and Louisiana.

www.statista.com

Florida ranks 9th, Texas 20th. Both are behind those right-wing extremist states like New Jersey, Rhode Island, New York, and Massachusetts.

Wait ...

 

[madinsomniac]

That's a bit far fetched Indy. I did some preliminary digging and the "Doctor" making these claims is a psychologist. If this has ANY legs, I'm sure the anti-vax doctors will start researching the claim and if it's in there...It'll be outed rather quickly.

The thing about the tracking/nano/parasite type conspiracy theories is that there are millions of unbiased individuals that are checking this stuff with microscopes and analyzers that would undoubtedly find that…

Its that kind of stuff that detracts from legitimate concerns

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

All you do is post numbers and declare causation. Perspective, Tim, perspective. It’s the intellectual thing to do…

COVID-19 vaccines don't raise miscarriage risk, 3 studies show

Pregnant women who received at least one dose are not at higher risk.

www.cidrap.umn.edu

You don't understand the VAERs numbers. They are reports. Suspicious reports. Vastly unproven. Vastly under-reported. In a database that is vastly under-utilized, there HAVE BEEN reports of hundreds of miscarriages a month. It's not a dispute.

And those suspicious reports have increased directly in correlation to the rising administration of the vaccine.

You dismiss every single data point, death, injury tied to the vaccines because it's ideology. At some point, you'll have no choice but to accept that these vaccines aren't vaccines, that they have waned dramatically, and that compared to all other true vaccines, they are far more dangerous.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

It’s not vaccine deaths, Tim.

You stupid, ignorant fool. That graph is a graph of of mortality reports for all vaccines. You can't even read it.

The graph shows "reports of mortality" from vaccines - all vaccines - since 1990.

It is about reported vaccine deaths.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Because the vaccine had nothing to do with it. Feelings don’t change facts.

Yep. You're a complete ideologue at this point. You're now dismissing any possibility that any adverse reaction anywhere could be caused by one of the non-tested vaccines.

That's Jim Jones Guyana-level idolatry there.

 

[IndySteel]

That's a bit far fetched Indy.

Maybe... I'm just having some fun.

 

[Steeltime]

Maybe... I'm just having some fun.

Did you first clear your comment with the Bureau of Humorous or Amusing Stories, Anecdotes & Tales and the supervisor for the subcommittee for that bureau, the Undersecretary of Humor, Sarcasm & Irreverance?

If not, report to Comrade Tibilo, useless idiot, for punishment.

 

[IndySteel]

Did you first clear your comment with the Bureau of Humorous or Amusing Stories, Anecdotes & Tales and the supervisor for the subcommittee for that bureau, the Undersecretary of Humor, Sarcasm & Irreverance?

If not, report to Comrade Tibilo, useless idiot, for punishment.

I forgot about that protocol. I fully expect to go to bet tonight without milk and cookies in a non-safe space.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

J&J "asking" for approval of EU authorization for their booster....barely tested, but with "astonishing" results listed below.

Besides Floggy, does anyone believe these numbers? After touting the vaccines would stop the spread, and keep you from getting sick, after then watching the vaccines wane in 4 to 6 months, breakthrough cases skyrocket, and watch vaxed people dying...who believes these claims?

Not I.

J&J asks for emergency use authorization of COVID-19 vaccine booster

Johnson & Johnson announced Tuesday that it has asked the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to grant emergency authorization for a booster shot of its COVID-19 vaccine for individuals aged 18 years and older.

thehill.com

In a statement, the company said it based its filing on the results of a late-stage clinical trial that found a booster dose of its single-shot vaccine given 56 days after the first dose provided 94 percent protection against symptomatic COVID-19, and 100 percent protection against severe and critical disease at least 14 days after the second dose.

 

[Troglodyte]

You don't understand the VAERs numbers. They are reports. Suspicious reports. Vastly unproven. Vastly under-reported. In a database that is vastly under-utilized, there HAVE BEEN reports of hundreds of miscarriages a month. It's not a dispute.

And those suspicious reports have increased directly in correlation to the rising administration of the vaccine.

You dismiss every single data point, death, injury tied to the vaccines because it's ideology. At some point, you'll have no choice but to accept that these vaccines aren't vaccines, that they have waned dramatically, and that compared to all other true vaccines, they are far more dangerous.

SO WHAT? Miscarriages are very common. Until the rate among vaccinated women is significantly higher than the historical rate, the raw numbers mean NOTHING.

When people who actually know what they are talking about declare the Covid vaccines are far more dangerous than other vaccines is when I’ll accept it.

 

[Steeltime]

SO WHAT? Miscarriages are very common. Until the rate among vaccinated women is significantly higher than the historical rate, the raw numbers mean NOTHING.

Right. We get that.

But your penchant for summarily dismissing data showing adverse events with a proximal association to vaccination is just as if not more erroneous. All data are anecdotal until reaching a sufficient number and under appropriate statistical methods to reach statistical probability.

That does not mean the anecdotal data are irrelevant, however, and this is a point you simply fail to understand or acknowledge.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Until the rate among vaccinated women is significantly higher than the historical rate, the raw numbers mean NOTHING.

This represents 1% of all reports to VAERS only. ONE percent. This rate? Near hockey stick rise since January. You can't be bothered to care about.

This rate? You also can't be bothered to care about.

That Mortality Reports Rate? Not only historically higher....ASTRONOMICALLY higher...but you won't be bothered by that.

Rates matter to you...till they don't.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

"The vaccines are not waning. Boosters are not needed." /Floggy

Data from Oct 1:
Six months after receiving the second dose of the two-shot vaccine from Pfizer Inc and BioNTech SE, many recipients no longer have vaccine-induced antibodies that can immediately neutralize worrisome variants of the coronavirus, a new study suggests.

“Our study shows vaccination with the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine induces high levels of neutralizing antibodies against the original vaccine strain, but these levels drop by nearly 10-fold by seven months” after the initial dose, Bali Pulendran of Stanford University and Mehul Suthar of Emory University said by email.

In roughly half of all subjects, neutralizing antibodies that can block infection against coronavirus variants such as Delta, Beta, and Mu were undetectable at six months after the second dose, their team reported on Thursday on bioRxiv … ahead of peer review.

Neutralizing antibodies are not the immune system’s only defense against the virus. Still, they “are critically important in protecting against SARS-CoV-2 infection,” said Pulendran and Suthar. “These findings suggest that administering a booster dose at around 6 to 7 months following the initial immunization will likely enhance protection against SARS-CoV-2 and its variants.”

 

[Superman]

Stupe is the one that keeps trying to inject race into the anti-vax argument. I don’t care. If you think you’re better off unvaccinated, you’re wrong.

you continue suggesting that it is the right-wing trump-fans who refuse to get the shot.
data shows that the vast majority of the black population has not gotten jabbed.
the vast majority of the black population are not right-wing trump-fans
though the right-wing trump-fans do not trust big government
the vast majority of the black population also does not trust the government
it is easy to see where you blurred the venn diagram
those are not one and the same
those are different

as such, now that this has been pointed out to you, how do you propose (and this has been asked more than once) you convince the vast majority of the black population who does not trust the government to NOW trust the government and get the jabby jab when their distrust in the government came at the point of a stabby stab?

until you can answer that question, i shall continue to point out the dramatic flaw in your cerebrum expression.

 

[Sarge]

after then watching the vaccines wane in 4 to 6 months,

Are all the vaccines waning? If so I hadn't seen that. I have seen the data on Pfizer. It falls apart pretty much at 4-6 months. I have seen nothing similar on J&J or Moderna.