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Covid Vaccine

Superman said:
remember when they changed the definition and timeline of vaccine so as to include the mrna covid vax?

@DBS1970 and Pepperidge Farms do.
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Yep.

I also remember when Dr. Robert Malone, who invented the mRNA vaccine and first tested it warned people about how bad it was, and how it was not ready for use was completely shut down and blacklisted by social media and the press.

And all over a virus that is 99.9% survivable unless you have a BMI of 65 a ton of comorbidities or are elderly and about to die anyway.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Going to side with Con and SIL on this one regarding this particular mRNA product.
It did not go through the normal trial process before reaching the general public, a fact that cannot be disputed.

Furthermore, it only took me 7 years to become a dokter!! :cool:

Just doin' my part to reach 1000 here.

Just for fun, I'll respond to this.

"You really do think that you’re as informed and qualified as Medical Doctors, don’t you?"

My response will be in the form of a question, because as I understand it, that's the proper response to a direct question, so...

How many years or even semesters do medical doctors receive in pharmacology?

In my joking response above of 7 years, it was drilled into me every moment in school. Those medical doctors came to me for advice, because it was kinda my specialty, where their training was limited in pharmacokinetics and such.
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Not touching this one, huh?
 
DBS1970 said:
Yep.

I also remember when Dr. Robert Malone, who invented the mRNA vaccine and first tested it warned people about how bad it was, and how it was not ready for use was completely shut down and blacklisted by social media and the press.

And all over a virus that is 99.9% survivable unless you have a BMI of 65 a ton of comorbidities or are elderly and about to die anyway.
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see, there's only one way to respond to this, and imma quote the wisdom and troofs of @Ron Burgundy :
QBR
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Badcat said:
I just did, the American Academy of Pediatrics said it was a good thing to give the children the J&J Covid vax but NOT ANYMORE!

What's your retort now?
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That was one of several Covid vaccines. You’re against all of them.
 
Troglodyte said:
That was one of several Covid vaccines. You’re against all of them.
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and you're taking all of them.

what's your current dosage of cabenuva?
 
Superman said:
see, there's only one way to respond to this, and imma quote the wisdom and troofs of @Ron Burgundy :
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At my funeral home as I recall, I had 21 Covid death cases over a year and a half. All had other health problems, all but two lived in nursing homes and all but two (not the same two) were over 70 years old. Had one guy who died from a blood clot a week or so after taking the clot shot.
 
Badcat said:
Did I not sufficiently answer your question? Yes? You should try it sometime.
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You called it a flip flop, it wasn’t. The vaccine was paused due to concerns of rare blood clotting in women under 50. It was later resumed based on low risk. The EUA was ultimately revoked at the request of the manufacturer due to a lack of demand and expired stock.
 
Troglodyte said:
You called it a flip flop, it wasn’t. The vaccine was paused due to concerns of rare blood clotting in women under 50. It was later resumed based on low risk. The EUA was ultimately revoked at the request of the manufacturer due to a lack of demand and expired stock.
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precisely.

you want to say "you don't know how vaccines work" - then pivot to this, hoping we don't bring up the very fact that we were ALL told that the vaccine would do no harm. Yet it did. and this was one harm that was quickly uncovered.

"due to lack of demand" - because no one wanted to risk it if it was already effecting some people
did you demand to get the J&J shot? if not, why not?

and nevermind that this was said - and the internet never ever forgets:

“Don’t get caught up necessarily on the numbers game, because it’s a safe and effective vaccine and what we need is to have as many effective vaccines as possible,” said Dr. Irons. Rather than focusing on efficacy rates, “accept the fact that now you have three highly effective vaccines.”

“We do have three safe and highly effective COVID vaccines. COVID vaccines continue to maintain high protection against severe disease, hospitalization and death,” said Dr. Fryhofer. “However, we are seeing breakthrough infections. It’s all about waning immunity—with time and with the Delta variant, along with concern about vaccine effectiveness against future variants of concern.
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so if it worked and was safe, why were there "breakthrough infections"? why all of a sudden did the term "breakthrough infection" come to be part of everyday language?

additionally, we're suddenly seeing:

colorectal cancer rise in young adults
and

cancer incidence rates “in women under 50 are now 82% higher than their male counterparts, up from 51% in 2002.”
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Men and women in the prime of their lives are increasingly being diagnosed with serious cancers, including colorectal, breast, prostate, uterine, stomach (gastric), pancreatic, and more. One forecast predicts cancer for this age group will increase by 30% globally from 2019 to 2030.

“This is serious and worrisome,” says Shari Goldfarb, MD, breast oncologist and Director of MSK’s Young Women With Breast Cancer program.

“This is not a blip,” explains Andrea Cercek, MD, gastrointestinal oncologist and Co-Director of The Center for Young Onset Colorectal and Gastrointestinal Cancer. “The more data we gather, the clearer this becomes.”

The spike in colorectal cancers among younger people led major medical groups to lower the age when people should begin screening from 50 years old to 45. Research from the American Cancer Society published in August 2025 found that the new guidelines increased colorectal screening by 62% among people between 45 and 50.
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so if you read the link, or even what i posted, you'll counter with "theys lowereeded da age grupz chekked"

but, never ask yourself why they chose to lower cancer screening ages. never, ever try critical thinking, Smoothbrain. it'll hurt your two gray cells.
 
Superman said:
precisely.

you want to say "you don't know how vaccines work" - then pivot to this, hoping we don't bring up the very fact that we were ALL told that the vaccine would do no harm. Yet it did. and this was one harm that was quickly uncovered.

"due to lack of demand" - because no one wanted to risk it if it was already effecting some people
did you demand to get the J&J shot? if not, why not?

and nevermind that this was said - and the internet never ever forgets:




so if it worked and was safe, why were there "breakthrough infections"? why all of a sudden did the term "breakthrough infection" come to be part of everyday language?

additionally, we're suddenly seeing:

colorectal cancer rise in young adults
and



so if you read the link, or even what i posted, you'll counter with "theys lowereeded da age grupz chekked"

but, never ask yourself why they chose to lower cancer screening ages. never, ever try critical thinking, Smoothbrain. it'll hurt your two gray cells.
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😂 “Critical thinking”

You didn’t go to med school, you didn’t do a residency, you didn’t pass medical licensure and certification, you didn’t complete a specialty fellowship and obtain board certification. Simply put, you don’t know enough about vaccines to think critically about their safety or efficacy.

It like someone watching a football game and criticizing a defensive back for not tackling the receiver before he caught the ball.
 
Troglodyte said:
😂 “Critical thinking”

You didn’t go to med school, you didn’t do a residency, you didn’t pass medical licensure and certification, you didn’t complete a specialty fellowship and obtain board certification. Simply put, you don’t know enough about vaccines to think critically about their safety or efficacy.

It like someone watching a football game and criticizing a defensive back for not tackling the receiver before he caught the ball.
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@Tim Steelersfan come get your ze
 
Superman said:
precisely.

you want to say "you don't know how vaccines work" - then pivot to this, hoping we don't bring up the very fact that we were ALL told that the vaccine would do no harm. Yet it did. and this was one harm that was quickly uncovered.

"due to lack of demand" - because no one wanted to risk it if it was already effecting some people
did you demand to get the J&J shot? if not, why not?

and nevermind that this was said - and the internet never ever forgets:




so if it worked and was safe, why were there "breakthrough infections"? why all of a sudden did the term "breakthrough infection" come to be part of everyday language?

additionally, we're suddenly seeing:

colorectal cancer rise in young adults
and



so if you read the link, or even what i posted, you'll counter with "theys lowereeded da age grupz chekked"

but, never ask yourself why they chose to lower cancer screening ages. never, ever try critical thinking, Smoothbrain. it'll hurt your two gray cells.
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QBR!
 
Troglodyte said:
All 67,000 are paying dues to support an organization that endorses the vaccine.
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Doesn't REALLY answer his question, though, does it?
Your specialty.

Just because they pay dues doesn't mean they follow lockstep with the group think.
If you're the President of M.A.D.D., NO WAY you would dare drive drunk simply because of the organization's name and mission.
Of course, we have documented cases of presidents of M.A.D.D. being picked up for DUIs.

There's this poster on here who has posted countless times about correlation doesn't equal causation anytime someone throws out anecdote.
Hmmmmmm..............?
 
Troglodyte said:
😂 “Critical thinking”

You didn’t go to med school, you didn’t do a residency, you didn’t pass medical licensure and certification, you didn’t complete a specialty fellowship and obtain board certification. Simply put, you don’t know enough about vaccines to think critically about their safety or efficacy.

It like someone watching a football game and criticizing a defensive back for not tackling the receiver before he caught the ball.
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Again, you need only believe the doctors Trog believes.
Any other doctor is a kook.

And for those scoring at home, Trog is the same ignoramus that tried telling all of us a DO is a lesser doctor than a MD.
 
fedderone said:
Again, you need only believe the doctors Trog believes.
Any other doctor is a kook.

And for those scoring at home, Trog is the same ignoramus that tried telling all of us a DO is a lesser doctor than a MD.
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70 percent of DOs are Primary Care. Not that there’s anything wrong with being a Primary Care doc.
 
Troglodyte said:
70 percent of DOs are Primary Care. Not that there’s anything wrong with being a Primary Care doc.
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My former family doctor, god rest his soul, was a DO and he was also head of emergency medicine in his younger years at major hospital in Dayton.

Also just because someone pays dues to an organization, such as a union or medical association, does not mean they should blindly think and vote in lockstep with the leadership of said organization. In fact they should think for themselves and be allowed to share their opinion. Many doctors are not allowed to officially share their opinion and face varying level of censure or worse for not towing the official, and very often political or corporate based, line. My doctor and his associates do not feel free to share their opinions with anyone they don’t actually trust. My daughter works with my doctor on his Diabetes foundation and we are very comfortable sharing our opinions luckily.
 
fedderone said:
Doesn't REALLY answer his question, though, does it?
Your specialty.

Just because they pay dues doesn't mean they follow lockstep with the group think.
If you're the President of M.A.D.D., NO WAY you would dare drive drunk simply because of the organization's name and mission.
Of course, we have documented cases of presidents of M.A.D.D. being picked up for DUIs.

There's this poster on here who has posted countless times about correlation doesn't equal causation anytime someone throws out anecdote.
Hmmmmmm..............?
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Do you have Presidents of M.A.D.D. recommending that people drive drunk?
 
by Flog's standard - if you live in a HOA community and pay those dues, you fully 100% support each and every HOA decision.
 
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