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Covid Vaccine

Tim Steelersfan said:
We've posted their studies/research here, along with endless links. You not digesting them doesn't make it not so.
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“Countless”, “endless” sure, Tim.
Tim Steelersfan said:
There is no positive cost/benefit analysis for children to take the jab. The risks outweigh the benefits.
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There absolutely is, vaccines are cheap preventative medicine. The risks are minimal. Your hysteria is on nonsense.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
DEAD serious. Name one anti-vax person here.
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There’s 23,000+ posts of anti-vax nonsense here.
Tim Steelersfan said:
I've had all my shots. But the one you pray and worship to.
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So measles, hep B? Why don’t you criticize the anti-vax rhetoric about them? Why aren’t you critical of RFK Jr. and Trump? And I’m supposed to think you’re not anti-vax?
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Kinda like asking for what unlawful order was given.

Just turned 74 and had my annual physical yesterday. I accepted the offer of a flu shot because I know it won't harm me even if it may do me no good either.
The mRNA shot wasn't even mentioned.
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Happy birthday, sir!
Hope you had a wonderful day
 
JMM said:
Zona, what's your opinion on the shingles vaccine? Is there a manufacturer that you'd prefer or is it pretty the same across the board? How long will it remain effective?
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Great questions, man!
I’m also wondering the same thing because every time I go see the doctor they try to push the shingles vaccine on me.
The last time I was very close to taking it but still a little unsure. No shingles outbreaks among my relatives, living or dead in the past.
Would love to hear his opinion also, especially since I have an appointment for my yearly next month
 
fedderone said:
A lot of actual physicians/pediatricians believe this as well, since the only way you can contract Hep B is by having sex and sharing needles. If your newborn baby is doing either of those things, you ****** up as a parent.
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Wrong. Quit getting your medical information from Trump and RFK Jr. Environmental and household exposure is also possible. There’s a reason why they started vaccinating kids over 30 years ago and it wasn’t because they were having sex and sharing needles. And ****** up is suggesting that a child shouldn’t be vaccinated because their parents are ****** up.

 
Confluence said:
Let's pretend you are smrt.

Lay it out for us, with the Covid shot or Hep B example above . Use all your tools, and a very few minutes of your time to write down how the Covid shots were good for kids or that HepB shots at birth are are good.

Edjumacate us with your glorious intellect and training.
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They prevent mortality and morbidity. Try listening or reading the links I’ve provided in the past couple of days.
 
Troglodyte said:
Wrong. Quit getting your medical information from Trump and RFK Jr. Environmental and household exposure is also possible. There’s a reason why they started vaccinating kids over 30 years ago and it wasn’t because they were having sex and sharing needles. And ****** up is suggesting that a child shouldn’t be vaccinated because their parents are ****** up.

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You're like the boy in the bubble. What a ******* pusssy.

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Troglodyte said:
Wrong. Quit getting your medical information from Trump and RFK Jr. Environmental and household exposure is also possible. There’s a reason why they started vaccinating kids over 30 years ago and it wasn’t because they were having sex and sharing needles. And ****** up is suggesting that a child shouldn’t be vaccinated because their parents are ****** up.

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Unlike you, I don't advice from politicians and main stream media.
Nor do I selectively choose which governmental agencies, depending on the letters in charge, I believe.


  • Anyone who has come in direct contact with hepatitis B virus-infected bodily fluids (blood, semen, and vaginal secretions) is at risk.
  • Were born to an hepatitis B virus-infected mother
  • Work or live in a place where you can be exposed to infected blood, such as a healthcare institution or correctional facility
  • Have ever lived with a person infected with chronic hepatitis B virus
  • Have ever had unprotected sex with an infected person
  • Have ever had multiple sexual partners
  • Have ever had a sexually transmitted disease
  • Are a man who has sex with men
  • Share needles or syringes to inject drugs, or straws to short them (even once)
  • Have your blood filtered by a machine (hemodialysis) because your kidneys aren’t working
  • Have ever traveled to or are born in countries where hepatitis B virus is common, including places in Africa, Central and Southeast Asia, and Eastern Europe
Can't say my newborns were EVER in danger of these situations.
And before you go squawking, they all got the Hep B vaccine in their teens.
Neither the wife nor I found it relevant or useful for our newborns, who wouldn't be in any position to contract.
 
Troglodyte said:
Wrong. Quit getting your medical information from Trump and RFK Jr. Environmental and household exposure is also possible. There’s a reason why they started vaccinating kids over 30 years ago and it wasn’t because they were having sex and sharing needles. And ****** up is suggesting that a child shouldn’t be vaccinated because their parents are ****** up.

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Look at all the specifics it gives on HOW a newborn would get infected with Hep B.
I posted an actual transmission list for you......with, you know, specific situations and ways of contracting.
But I'm sure you'll cry it's not approved by Dr. Fauci and Rachel Maddow.
 
Troglodyte said:
Wrong. Quit getting your medical information from Trump and RFK Jr. Environmental and household exposure is also possible. There’s a reason why they started vaccinating kids over 30 years ago and it wasn’t because they were having sex and sharing needles. And ****** up is suggesting that a child shouldn’t be vaccinated because their parents are ****** up.

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which AIDS shot are you on now? or are you on a prescription. As you said:

Troglodyte said:
They prevent mortality and morbidity.
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so, using Flogic, you must be practicing precisely what you preach and thus are on some sort of AIDS prescription or shot.

or did you decide after consulting with your primary care physician that you do not need the AIDS prescription and/or shot?
 
JMM said:
Zona, what's your opinion on the shingles vaccine? Is there a manufacturer that you'd prefer or is it pretty the same across the board? How long will it remain effective?
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Going to assume that as a kid you had chicken pox or never vaccinated for it? That bugger just lays dormant in you just waiting to ruin your life.

It's certainly one that I would recommend, getting shingles is not a fun experience, and then you're shedding off varicella zoster virus that can spread to others, and can result in a case of chicken pox to the unvaccinated. Lots of little kids got chicken pox from grandma.

I'm only aware of Shingrix, which is pretty close to 100% (90 -98, studies vary) in efficacy in preventing shingles. Zosatvax, no longer made was about 50/50 at best and I had both. It's recommended to get the Shingrix even if you had the Zostavax.

Currently, Shingrix seems to last at least 10 years and there's no recommendation for a booster yet, but the science is always developing.
 
fedderone said:
Unlike you, I don't advice from politicians and main stream media.
Nor do I selectively choose which governmental agencies, depending on the letters in charge, I believe.


  • Anyone who has come in direct contact with hepatitis B virus-infected bodily fluids (blood, semen, and vaginal secretions) is at risk.
  • Were born to an hepatitis B virus-infected mother
  • Work or live in a place where you can be exposed to infected blood, such as a healthcare institution or correctional facility
  • Have ever lived with a person infected with chronic hepatitis B virus
  • Have ever had unprotected sex with an infected person
  • Have ever had multiple sexual partners
  • Have ever had a sexually transmitted disease
  • Are a man who has sex with men
  • Share needles or syringes to inject drugs, or straws to short them (even once)
  • Have your blood filtered by a machine (hemodialysis) because your kidneys aren’t working
  • Have ever traveled to or are born in countries where hepatitis B virus is common, including places in Africa, Central and Southeast Asia, and Eastern Europe
Can't say my newborns were EVER in danger of these situations.
And before you go squawking, they all got the Hep B vaccine in their teens.
Neither the wife nor I found it relevant or useful for our newborns, who wouldn't be in any position to contract.
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I think this should be a parental decision, rather than mandating. Unless the virus is transmitted at birth from an infected mother, the likelihood of a child developing Hep B is pretty low. Prenatal screenings "should" (the operative word) catch mom's infection, but we all know not everyone has that done.

Does the vaccine cause any harm, probably not, but it may not do much good a birth either.

Curing Hep B is possible, but it's stupid expensive to do so.

Edit: Brain fart, C can be cured, but B only maintained, still expensive though.
 
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fedderone said:
Unlike you, I don't advice from politicians and main stream media.
Nor do I selectively choose which governmental agencies, depending on the letters in charge, I believe.


  • Anyone who has come in direct contact with hepatitis B virus-infected bodily fluids (blood, semen, and vaginal secretions) is at risk.
  • Were born to an hepatitis B virus-infected mother
  • Work or live in a place where you can be exposed to infected blood, such as a healthcare institution or correctional facility
  • Have ever lived with a person infected with chronic hepatitis B virus
  • Have ever had unprotected sex with an infected person
  • Have ever had multiple sexual partners
  • Have ever had a sexually transmitted disease
  • Are a man who has sex with men
  • Share needles or syringes to inject drugs, or straws to short them (even once)
  • Have your blood filtered by a machine (hemodialysis) because your kidneys aren’t working
  • Have ever traveled to or are born in countries where hepatitis B virus is common, including places in Africa, Central and Southeast Asia, and Eastern Europe
Can't say my newborns were EVER in danger of these situations.
And before you go squawking, they all got the Hep B vaccine in their teens.
Neither the wife nor I found it relevant or useful for our newborns, who wouldn't be in any position to contract.
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Would you have let your baby or toddler use a pacifier, teething ring, or toy that a Hep B infected child had been gnawing on?

How sanitary do you think day cares are? Or play areas designed for toddlers?
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Going to assume that as a kid you had chicken pox or never vaccinated for it? That bugger just lays dormant in you just waiting to ruin your life.

It's certainly one that I would recommend, getting shingles is not a fun experience, and then you're shedding off varicella zoster virus that can spread to others, and can result in a case of chicken pox to the unvaccinated. Lots of little kids got chicken pox from grandma.

I'm only aware of Shingrix, which is pretty close to 100% (90 -98, studies vary) in efficacy in preventing shingles. Zosatvax, no longer made was about 50/50 at best and I had both. It's recommended to get the Shingrix even if you had the Zostavax.

Currently, Shingrix seems to last at least 10 years and there's no recommendation for a booster yet, but the science is always developing.
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Thanks Zona. I did have chicken pox as a kid. I'll get that taken care of. 👍👍
 
JMM said:
Thanks Zona. I did have chicken pox as a kid. I'll get that taken care of. 👍👍
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I had a minor flare up of Shingles about 8 years ago when I was still in my 40's, left arm, and it frigg'n sucked. Now that I'm in my early 50's, I'm definitely getting that here soon.
 
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Superman said:
which AIDS shot are you on now? or are you on a prescription. As you said:


so, using Flogic, you must be practicing precisely what you preach and thus are on some sort of AIDS prescription or shot.

or did you decide after consulting with your primary care physician that you do not need the AIDS prescription and/or shot?
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Flogg doesn't need an AIDS vaccine. Flogg has built up a natural immunity.
 
Troglodyte said:
There absolutely is, vaccines are cheap preventative medicine. The risks are minimal. Your hysteria is on nonsense.
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If only you'd consume the content posted in this thread instead of simply trusting your ideological sources.

The risk (vaccine injury)/reward (prevention of serious illness) equation fails. It's documented here. If only you'd do a little work.
 
Troglodyte said:
There’s 23,000+ posts of anti-vax nonsense here.
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Misinformation. There's a thread here full of people against ONE vaccine, the Covid vaccine. You and your idiot liberal brethren equate opposition to one vaccine as being anti-vaccine. You're that stupid.

Troglodyte said:
So measles, hep B?
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Yep

Troglodyte said:
Why don’t you criticize the anti-vax rhetoric about them? Why aren’t you critical of RFK Jr. and Trump? And I’m supposed to think you’re not anti-vax?
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I support them investigating the vaccines to determine which are truly necessary and which are not. To understand why the vaccine schedule of shots has quadrupled in the past few decades. And to determine if there is any link between vaccines and the rising number of ailments in children in the past few decades.

Science is about questioning the science - always. I'm for questioning the science. That doesn't mean that I, or others like me, are anti-vaccine. We are pro science.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Misinformation. There's a thread here full of people against ONE vaccine, the Covid vaccine. You and your idiot liberal brethren equate opposition to one vaccine as being anti-vaccine. You're that stupid.



Yep



I support them investigating the vaccines to determine which are truly necessary and which are not. To understand why the vaccine schedule of shots has quadrupled in the past few decades. And to determine if there is any link between vaccines and the rising number of ailments in children in the past few decades.

Science is about questioning the science - always. I'm for questioning the science. That doesn't mean that I, or others like me, are anti-vaccine. We are pro science.
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notice, too, they're removing the "recommendation"
it was never required. it's still not required. no one is saying babies cannot get it.

for flog:


After a fiery panel meeting, the US Centres for Disease Control’s (CDC) vaccine committee has voted to revoke its routine hepatitis B vaccine recommendation in non-high-risk newborn infants, instead issuing guidance that children two months and older receive the jab.
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"non-high-risk newborn infants"

Flog is ok not getting the AIDS shot vaccine, but goddammit, Flog insists that every newborn be injected with every vaccine known to mankind. Right, @Troglodyte. "go on record" cuck.
 
Troglodyte said:
“Countless”, “endless” sure, Tim.
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You are just lying to yourself
Troglodyte said:
There absolutely is, vaccines are cheap preventative medicine. The risks are minimal. Your hysteria is on nonsense.
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The costs, in lives and damages, are astronomical, but you don't give a fuuck because you get paid for cheerlreading the sales team.
 
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