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Covid Vaccine

@Confluence will appreciate these. Children dying during trials, the drug makers knowing the vaccines didn't work on kids, etc. Berenson is still doing great work on the topic.

mRNA Covid jabs should NEVER have been approved for children or young adults​


A young child died of cardiac arrest after being jabbed during Moderna's key Covid vaccine trial​

Moderna has not reported the death to a public trial registry or published results that show the death, effectively hiding it for years. What did the FDA know and did it respond? The agency won't say.​

 
"Children do not need those vaccines. It's been posted here previously (and of course you didn't read the articles) - the risk/reward analysis for kids taking the vaccine is bad. Very bad. There's no reason to inject young children with that ****."

Any time a clinician makes a decision, working in partnership with the patient, or in this case the parent or guardian, the risk/benefit ratio of this action is paramount.
I'm not aware of any evidence where the benefit of using this product for infants, adolescence or young adults outweigh the risk.

I've stated before, and will stand by it, the only segment of the population that MAY benefit are those with severe comorbidities.

Arguing with an ideolog is pointless.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Says the chromosomaly-challenged tool that brings up non-related topics ad nausea regardless the thread's title.



In 2022, 1,529 kids died from SIDS in the USA.

An estimated 500 kids 5 and under died from Covid over 5 years. If you believe the numbers (which no rational human does, they are all over-inflated), that's 100 a year.

Children do not need those vaccines. It's been posted here previously (and of course you didn't read the articles) - the risk/reward analysis for kids taking the vaccine is bad. Very bad. There's no reason to inject young children with that ****.

Thank God the FDA is changing the rules.
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So you’re right and Dr. Grounder is wrong?

I suppose you also believe Trump when he declares babies don’t need the Hep B vaccine?
 
steel dino said:
Seems to me the doctor was just doing his or her job properly And investigating why the patient was ill.
And I’m not a doctor, but I have visited my doctor and other doctors in my life, and one of the first things they ask you is about what what illnesses or diseases your closest relatives have had or died from.
The guy on the beach should enjoy his stroll on the beach instead of stating the obvious response procedures a halfway decent physician should make every day with every patient
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Uh, that was his point. The anti-vaxers here would immediately be convinced it was the Covid vaccine. They’re biased and wrong.
 
Confluence said:
Wait a minute.

You castigated all here for years, insisting that only official comments and directives from health officials, like the FDA Director, mattered, and that anecdotal comments on SM were useless.

Pick one. We're you wrong for years, or are you wrong now.?

How many dead kids is ok for you?
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That was before the FDA director and the Secretary of Health and Human Services were quacks brought in by an administration being wagged by its anti-vax dog.

 
Troglodyte said:
So you’re right and Dr. Grounder is wrong?

I suppose you also believe Trump when he declares babies don’t need the Hep B vaccine?
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That stocks did indeed slide due to the FDA memo? Yep.

And I proved you would deflect and spin to a new topic (you did) and that you can't use the internet.

Finally, I don't know who Dr. Grounder is, but I'll take the evidence of countless other doctors and organizations and research studies that say the risk/reward analysis for children doesn't warrant taking the jab. And the stats, of course. 100 child deaths a year doesn't warrant a vaccine with high risks.
 
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Troglodyte said:
Uh, that was his point. The anti-vaxers here would immediately be convinced it was the Covid vaccine. They’re biased and wrong.
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Can you name any anti-vaccination people here please?
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Can you name any anti-vaccination people here please?
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Kinda like asking for what unlawful order was given.

Just turned 74 and had my annual physical yesterday. I accepted the offer of a flu shot because I know it won't harm me even if it may do me no good either.
The mRNA shot wasn't even mentioned.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
That stocks did indeed slide due to the FDA memo? Yep.

And I proved you would deflect and spin to a new topic (you did) and that you can't use the internet.

Finally, I don't know who Dr. Grounder is, but I'll take the evidence of countless other doctors and organizations and research studies that say the risk/reward analysis for children doesn't warrant taking the jab. And the stats, of course. 100 child deaths a year doesn't warrant a vaccine with high risks.
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“Countless”😂 Too bad they only exist in your world of make believe. Must be the same ones that declare babies don’t need the Hep B vaccine. Or are Trump and RFK Jr. dead wrong?
 
Troglodyte said:
“Countless”😂 Too bad they only exist in your world of make believe. Must be the same ones that declare babies don’t need the Hep B vaccine. Or are Trump and RFK Jr. dead wrong?
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We've posted their studies/research here, along with endless links. You not digesting them doesn't make it not so.

There is no positive cost/benefit analysis for children to take the jab. The risks outweigh the benefits.
 
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