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Covid Vaccine

ZonaBurgh said:
What is your expertise? I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
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If you make a video in your car, that makes you an expert. If you make the video while driving that bumps you up to a whole other realm.

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ZonaBurgh said:
What is your expertise? I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
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My expertise is knowing that the people who spent 10 to 14 years of their lives going to medical school, completing a residency and passing a licensing exam actually know what the **** they’re talking about and RFK Jr. does not.
 
Troglodyte said:
Do you agree with the Trump administration or do you agree with the last sentence of the column?
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Like I said multiple times in this thread, pFizer will not exist in the next couple years.

It will be obvious as discovery emerges.
 
Troglodyte said:
My expertise is knowing that the people who spent 10 to 14 years of their lives going to medical school, completing a residency and passing a licensing exam actually know what the **** they’re talking about and RFK Jr. does not.
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The relevant point is that so many MDs across the world have hidden behind that so-called education, depriving their patients and betraying the credo "first do no harm" because they literally do not read package inserts.

Their patients could never have had informed consent because their MD advisor relied in some hot drug rep to give them the pharma Coles notes marketing version, relying on the MD's unreasonable faith in the glossy summary. And they did it because of business conditions: they needed the money.

Talk with some MDs and drug reps: prove me wrong.
 
Troglodyte said:
My expertise is knowing that the people who spent 10 to 14 years of their lives going to medical school, completing a residency and passing a licensing exam actually know what the **** they’re talking about and RFK Jr. does not.
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Well, I guess you sure showed me. I only spent 8 years getting my doctorate, completing my residency at the Saint Mary's Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN, passing a licensing exam (in 2 different states) with continuing CME throughout my career, only to say this mRNA product isn't all that it's purported to be.
What is it that you do again?
 
Confluence said:
The relevant point is that so many MDs across the world have hidden behind that so-called education, depriving their patients and betraying the credo "first do no harm" because they literally do not read package inserts.

Their patients could never have had informed consent because their MD advisor relied in some hot drug rep to give them the pharma Coles notes marketing version, relying on the MD's unreasonable faith in the glossy summary. And they did it because of business conditions: they needed the money.

Talk with some MDs and drug reps: prove me wrong.
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No. Doctors are compensated based on productivity, quality or both. The wRVU value for Pfizer’s Covid vaccine is 0 so they don’t make off them. They can make money by keeping their patients out of the hospital, so there’s the motivation to vaccinate them.
 
Troglodyte said:
No. Doctors are compensated based on productivity, quality or both. The wRVU value for Pfizer’s Covid vaccine is 0 so they don’t make off them. They can make money by keeping their patients out of the hospital, so there’s the motivation to vaccinate them.
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So MDs compensated on productivity ensure informed consent by walking their patients thru the package inserts?

Has anyone ever experienced that with their PCP?
 
Popped up in my FB Memories today. From an attorney bud of mine who was instrumental in challenging the then-governor's Covid restrictions.

#15 Fascinating detail from Judge Stickman's 9.14.20 Order, County of Butler, et al, v. Gov Wolf et al. Throughout this and our litigation, the Gov has claimed that he classified businesses into life and non-life-sustaining based upon the NAICS coding system. We have argued from the beginning that this is lie, that the NAICS has nothing to do with those definitions and that the Gov just made up those definitions out of thin air. The Judge agreed with us. He said, the Gov's non-medical, non-scientific advisors, "never settled on a definition of 'life-sustaining,'" and pointed out that those words do not appear in the 956 pages of the NAICS. Further, the Gov's team admitted, "I'm not sure that we wrote down anywhere what 'life-sustaining' meant," and, "I don't believe that we spent a lot of time around the formality of kind of enshrining the definition somewhere." This Judge ruled, "The manner in which Defendants...designed, implemented, and administered the business closures is shockingly arbitrary." Friends, we have been proven correct: the Gov just made up these classifications, made up the terms, never defined the terms, didn't even write down the definitions (because they don't exist) and just made decisions to shut down tens or hundreds of thousands of businesses, as the Judge said "destroying businesses and putting employees out of work," on the whims of his team of non-medical, non-scientific advisors. This is sickening. #ReOpenPA
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Badcat said:
...and Measles was an actual vaccine...you know...where it provides immunity?
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Until the southern border was overrun by millions of unvaccinated children.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
I do remember that a certain furniture manufacturing business was life-sustaining.
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I was peripherally involved with said attorney and other Pubbies getting an amendment to the state constitution on the ballot limiting the governor’s emergency powers to 21 days and any more than that requires a vote by the state assembly. It passed by a wide margin.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
I was peripherally involved with said attorney and other Pubbies getting an amendment to the state constitution on the ballot limiting the governor’s emergency powers to 21 days and any more than that requires a vote by the state assembly. It passed by a wide margin.
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I cheered loudly when that bill passed. Good work by your buddy.
 
Badcat said:
I cheered loudly when that bill passed. Good work by your buddy.
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After a while of ridiculous and ineffective restrictions I started looking into how we could change it and it appeared that an amendment to the state constitution was the only way. I found that some other influential Pubbies in the state were on same page and the attorney (who is a friend of mine anyway) had me and a state senator on his radio talk show out of Harrisburg, just bouncing ideas off each other keeping in mind what was attainable and reasonable. 95% of the state reps and senators in both parties are effing cowards so that was the other thing, we had to do an end run around them and get enough signatures on petitions statewide to get it on the ballot. Career politicians in Harrisburg look at any change in anything the same way a vampire reacts to a cross.

The basic idea was that the governor should have some emergency powers to quickly deal with things like floods and tornados but it should not be an unlimited thing that can go on forever with no checks and balances.

A little background for ya.
 
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Ron Burgundy said:
After a while of ridiculous and ineffective restrictions I started looking into how we could change it and it appeared that an amendment to the state constitution was the only way. I found that some other influential Pubbies in the state were on same page and the attorney (who is a friend of mine anyway) had me and a state senator on his radio talk show out of Harrisburg, just bouncing ideas off each other keeping in mind what was attainable and reasonable. 95% of the state reps and senators in both parties are effing cowards so that was the other thing, we had to do an end run around them and get enough signatures on petitions statewide to get it on the ballot. Career politicians in Harrisburg look at any change in anything the same way a vampire reacts to a cross.

The basic idea was that the governor should have some emergency powers to quickly deal with things like floods and tornados but it should not be an unlimited thing that can go on forever with no checks and balances.

A little background for ya.
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If it's WHP 580, I probably heard ya.
 
if you go back to the first few pages of this thread, you will find that a few of us brought up this very point, repeatedly, and these very real concerns were brushed aside repeatedly.

Facts are facts and data is data; what people say, feel and report is just bs narrative; the whole world fell under this spell of believing public health authorities and clearly pFraudulent statements that caused, and are still causing immense suffering.

Who is being held accountable?


 
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ZonaBurgh said:
Well, I guess you sure showed me. I only spent 8 years getting my doctorate, completing my residency at the Saint Mary's Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN, passing a licensing exam (in 2 different states) with continuing CME throughout my career, only to say this mRNA product isn't all that it's purported to be.
What is it that you do again?
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Good to know we have a resident doctor.... :)

Ron Burgundy said:
After a while of ridiculous and ineffective restrictions I started looking into how we could change it and it appeared that an amendment to the state constitution was the only way. I found that some other influential Pubbies in the state were on same page and the attorney (who is a friend of mine anyway) had me and a state senator on his radio talk show out of Harrisburg, just bouncing ideas off each other keeping in mind what was attainable and reasonable. 95% of the state reps and senators in both parties are effing cowards so that was the other thing, we had to do an end run around them and get enough signatures on petitions statewide to get it on the ballot. Career politicians in Harrisburg look at any change in anything the same way a vampire reacts to a cross.

The basic idea was that the governor should have some emergency powers to quickly deal with things like floods and tornados but it should not be an unlimited thing that can go on forever with no checks and balances.

A little background for ya.
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Great work Ron Burgundy!...

You don't just report the news...but you actually make it!

Nice job staying involved and making a positive difference!
 
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steel dino said:
Good to know we have a resident doctor.... :)
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The doctorate is in pharmacy, but from back in the day when it had to be earned through a residency program and additional years of study. Today, it's an entry degree, go figure.
While not a physician, my career allowed me to work with them as a team, doing clinical rounds with them, because they realized that I knew more about the pharmaceutical end of practicing medicine than they did.
 
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