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Covid Vaccine

IndySteel said:
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BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT it is easily transferable and readily leaps from person to person if you buy a latte from a soy-armed barista with a 5 o'clock shadow wearing a Forever21 skirt with ze's balls in plain view whilst tucked into zey's fishnet stockings.
 
Is this longer than the Dri Archer thread yet?
 
IndySteel said:
Yeah, and if Flog keeps trying to justify this scam and swearing that clot shots are safe it’s going to break a 1000.
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Has anyone reminded him that it's a Trump Vaccine?
 
This doesn't quite fit here, but in ways it does. @Confluence should love this. Warning: It's long, but it documents some fascinating things about healthcare and supplements. Only excerpts posted, click the link to read it all.

The Vitamin D Paradox: What They Don't Tell You About Cholecalciferol <----Link​


The same molecule in your morning vitamin D supplement is the active ingredient in rat poison.

Not a similar compound. Not a chemical cousin. The exact same molecule: cholecalciferol. At 0.075% concentration, it kills rats. In your supplement bottle, it's supposed to make you healthier.

This should be a simple story of dosage – but the more I investigated, the stranger it became. The vitamin D in supplements isn't extracted from fish or produced by sunlight. It's manufactured from sheep's wool using benzene and chloroform in Chinese chemical factories. The same factories that produce industrial solvents.
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This essay is my attempt to reconcile what shouldn't be reconcilable. To understand how we arrived at a place where medicine and poison share the same molecule, the same manufacturer, the same mechanism of action – but somehow produce opposite results.
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Here's a puzzle that keeps me awake at night: Multiple studies claim vitamin D supplementation produces measurable health benefits. A 2025 trial in France reported that high-dose vitamin D reduced multiple sclerosis progression by 34%. A meta-analysis found 15% lower cancer mortality. ICU patients allegedly had better survival rates. These studies exist, complete with control groups and statistical analyses, circulating through the medical establishment's usual channels.

Same substance, different context: Rampage rat poison. Active ingredient: 0.075% cholecalciferol. That's vitamin D3. Not mixed with vitamin D3, not containing vitamin D3 as one of many ingredients. The only active ingredient that kills rats is the exact same molecule we're told to supplement for our health. The remaining 99.925%? Seeds and grain – rat food. The vitamin D is what makes it lethal.

Something doesn't add up here.

Now, I don't trust the medical publishing complex. After watching them gatekeep dissenting voices, rubber-stamp fraudulent studies during the pandemic, and memory-hole inconvenient data, I know they're captured by industrial medicine. But here's what makes this paradox interesting: even if these vitamin D studies are manipulated, even if the benefits are manufactured, even if the whole thing is pharmaceutical propaganda – we still have the other side of the equation. The rat poison. The safety data sheets. The "fatal if swallowed" warnings from the actual manufacturers.

Either we're witnessing one of the most successful examples of "the dose makes the poison" in human history, or we're missing something fundamental about what's actually happening when people swallow these supplements. Because when Merck's own safety documents classify their pharmaceutical-grade vitamin D3 as "Category 1 and 2 hazardous," I pay attention. Not because I trust Merck – but because liability lawyers make them document actual hazards.

This isn't a simple story of Big Pharma deception or natural health enlightenment. It's messier than that. More confusing. And I'm trying to figure out how both realities can exist simultaneously.
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The safety data sheets are damning. Not from some blogger's interpretation, but from Merck and Spectrum's own legal documentation for pharmaceutical-grade vitamin D3. "Fatal if swallowed." "Category 1 and 2 hazardous substance." "Not for use as food or drug." These aren't typos. These are legally required hazard classifications that companies must provide to protect themselves from liability. The same cholecalciferol molecule sold in your local pharmacy carries skull-and-crossbones pictograms in its industrial documentation.

Then there's the mechanism of death – identical in rats and humans. Cholecalciferol kills through hypercalcemia: calcium floods the bloodstream, calcifies soft tissues, damages kidneys, causes heart failure. When rats eat those poison pellets, this is how they die. When humans overdose on vitamin D, this is exactly what happens to them. Same molecule, same biological pathway, same organ damage. The only difference is the dose and the timeline.
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The question isn't whether vitamin D3 can be toxic. It clearly can. The question is whether taking it at supplement doses is slowly building toward that same toxicity, just stretched over decades instead of days.
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Tim Steelersfan said:
This doesn't quite fit here, but in ways it does. @Confluence should love this. Warning: It's long, but it documents some fascinating things about healthcare and supplements. Only excerpts posted, click the link to read it all.

The Vitamin D Paradox: What They Don't Tell You About Cholecalciferol <----Link​

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Our ancestors lived into their 80s, 90s without all the **** you see pushed on TV and doctors offices. Granted they died from infections, so I'm not taking anything away from antibiotics but so long as you eat relatively healthy, you're probably doing more harm than good by ingesting that formulated crap. Helps the drug pushers bottom line though no doubt. You want to take them, knock yourself out. I'll pass.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
This doesn't quite fit here, but in ways it does. @Confluence should love this. Warning: It's long, but it documents some fascinating things about healthcare and supplements. Only excerpts posted, click the link to read it all.

The Vitamin D Paradox: What They Don't Tell You About Cholecalciferol <----Link​

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I love/hate you SO much, TS.
Of course, I look at my bottle of Beyond Tangy Tangerine 2.5 I've been taking for a decade, and what do I see for the Vitamin D?
Yep.
Thank you/F you for rabbit hole I must now traverse.
( In all seriousness, THANK YOU for critically thinking and posting things that challenge what I think I know. I am TRULY and ALWAYS appreciative of you and people like you. Keep fighting the good fight and making us aware of things you come across ).
 
fedderone said:
I love/hate you SO much, TS.
Of course, I look at my bottle of Beyond Tangy Tangerine 2.5 I've been taking for a decade, and what do I see for the Vitamin D?
Yep.
Thank you/F you for rabbit hole I must now traverse.
( In all seriousness, THANK YOU for critically thinking and posting things that challenge what I think I know. I am TRULY and ALWAYS appreciative of you and people like you. Keep fighting the good fight and making us aware of things you come across ).
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I read the article. I posted the article. Then I threw my Vitamin D supplement in the trash.
 
fedderone said:
I love/hate you SO much, TS.
Of course, I look at my bottle of Beyond Tangy Tangerine 2.5 I've been taking for a decade, and what do I see for the Vitamin D?
Yep.
Thank you/F you for rabbit hole I must now traverse.
( In all seriousness, THANK YOU for critically thinking and posting things that challenge what I think I know. I am TRULY and ALWAYS appreciative of you and people like you. Keep fighting the good fight and making us aware of things you come across ).
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allow me to clarify things for you.

everything @Tim Steelersfan touches turns to ****. He's the universe's UNO reverse @Tibs

He also wrote this post.
 
IDK Tim, while D3 is fat soluble, I'd question its harm if taken in the 400-800 IU daily along with a calcium supplement.
It will benefit those with osteopenia or osteoporosis to maintain bone density preventing a hip fracture before falling to the floor.
Just my 2 cents, but I wouldn't throw it away. Consuming literally anything in excess will have negative consequences.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
IDK Tim, while D3 is fat soluble, I'd question its harm if taken in the 400-800 IU daily along with a calcium supplement.
It will benefit those with osteopenia or osteoporosis to maintain bone density preventing a hip fracture before falling to the floor.
Just my 2 cents, but I wouldn't throw it away. Consuming literally anything in excess will have negative consequences.
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Except craft beer.
 
Thanks Tim. There are many, many supplements/vitamins that have issues like this, just like drugs. Makes you wonder why they used to supplement bread with vitamin D. Somebody should look up when this started vs cancer/chronic illness.

Luckily there is a great way to get natural vitamin D!

The other great mystery in all these type of things, like supplements, OTC products, food additives, food ingredients, colorings, spices, etc. is the actual manufacturing process. The label, the spec sheet, the msds, the CoA can all inform (assuming accuracy), but they only report on what they test for. In the process, if your "wheat germ" (for example) gets left on the barn floor for 3 weeks to "dry", what about molds, mildew, mycotixins, aflatoxins, rat shiit, bird shiit, etc. Does it get tested at all? Spot tested?
When does it get tested? pre-storage on a hot, humid truck? Just when the health inspector tells you he is coming by in 3 weeks? What about the actual manufacturing process----if they keep only the good stuff, how do they separate the bad stuff, and where does it go? Do they test for degradant by products? Do they even know what to test for? What if they miss some residual solvents? What was the source of the feedstock, how did they test, can that be trusted, and how about all the other process stuff that touches the products or process of what gets ingested?

You'd be surprised by some of the crazy things folks do and don't do.
And who knows, maybe a little dirt, a bit of mold and a speck of rat shiit does a body good!
 
Ugg I have been taking a Vit. D supplement for about a year. On the road for 2 days. Won't be home to look at the pill jar till sat.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
This doesn't quite fit here, but in ways it does. @Confluence should love this. Warning: It's long, but it documents some fascinating things about healthcare and supplements. Only excerpts posted, click the link to read it all.

The Vitamin D Paradox: What They Don't Tell You About Cholecalciferol <----Link​

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I think I’ve gotta call bullshit. Rat poison kills rats by thinning their blood causing them to bleed out internally, not by calcium flooding their system.
 
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