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Covid Vaccine

You called them lies, based on what source?


You didn't read the article, did you? The article makes passing reference to natural immunity, cites not one actual source for any claim about the supposed variance of natural immunity, and spends the rest of the time arguing that the vaccine shot is awesome so the unvaccinated unshot should get the vaccine shot and not get the Chinese flu to trigger natural immunity.
 
Nonsense, employers have all kinds of mandates. Your mind is in its own reality.

Employers have all kinds of mandates, but essentially zero mandates regarding health or immunization since such requirements would almost certainly violate state disability non-discrimination laws.

Second, exactly what "law" governs vaccine shot mandates? King Fartbag the Soiler's orders are not laws. I mean, you have to know that, right?

Third, you do know that no Federal law governs vaccines shots, and instead those actual laws are in fact state laws, right?
 
No wonder you're so ******* batshit crazy, reading sites like this. You and others of your ilk should be quarantined in *dumbass* centers, kept at a safe distance from the general population.
Have you ever pondered why there are only two of you on this board, maybe three, who share in your sick, twisted, and absolutely evil mindset while the vast majority of us free thinking, freedom loving, common sense having people spend our time on this board trying to wake you the **** up to reality? You believe it's okay to tuck your dick between your legs and proclaim yourself a woman and use the female showers for piss sakes! Yeah, and WE'RE the ones who need to go to dumbass centers?! ***** please!!
 
No wonder you're so ******* batshit crazy, reading sites like this. You and others of your ilk should be quarantined in *dumbass* centers, kept at a safe distance from the general population.

Yeah, you should try that, brave guy 8,000 miles away, protected by a border wall and a nation that actually looks after its citizens.

******* leftists ... they **** up everything they touch.

California - ****** up.
New York - ****** up.
Oregon - ****** up.
Washington state - ****** up.
Washington, D.C. - ****** up.

The liberal losers then leave the ****** places they ****** up and go to successful conservative states (Arizona, Texas, Tennessee, Georgia) and try to **** them up as well. Liberals are the typhoid Mary's of politics, political zombies stupidly roaming America and ******* up everything they touch.

So go ahead, tough guy, round us up. You might want to be careful with my neighbor, however. And Ogres.
 
How many do you need, Tim?


Legitimate pieces? How about one?

Meantime, let me destroy this one, since you only read headlines (have I reminded you that you absolutely suck at this link game)?

First, the overall premise of the article is to get vaccinated before you get Covid, and not to wait on your body's natural immune system to fight it. That's 80% of the point of the article. Which isn't what we have been discussing. The question is - is natural immunity better than just being vaccinated? Which the answer is overwhelmingly, yes.

Two, you are quoting Johns Hopkins University. You are on official record for discrediting JHU and Doctor Makary. You cannot with any integrity now point to JHU as a legitimate source. Shows your confirmation bias.

Three, Anna Durbin licks Makary's boots. Compare their profiles and awards in the faculty section of JHU. She's literally not on the same plane, but ok.

Four, she makes the same mistakes every other proponent for mass vaccination makes, with some bullshit quotes like:
  • "It's Russian roulette," she says. "Young people tend to think they're invincible. But it just takes that one slip and your entire life could change." - she makes the fallacy of spreading misinformation trying to convince young people they are at "risk" from Covid when they are 900% more likely to die from drinking.
  • "With the delta variant, we're seeing many more young people on ventilators in hospitals and dying, Durbin says. " - really??? Where are these overwhelming numbers Professor? I mean, substantial, overwhelming evidence that this is of grave concern.
  • "And declining the vaccine is more than just a personal decision: An infected person can easily transmit the virus to others, including immunocompromised people at higher risk for grave illness and children under 12 who can't yet access the vaccines." - Ummm, professor, countless studies the world over have shown that the young don't spread Covid. For instance, not one teacher in the UK has gotten Covid from a student. None identified in the US yet either.
  • "We're seeing huge rates of hospitalizations and deaths, and you don't want to risk becoming one of those statistics." - actually we are seeing declining rates of deaths. But let's not facts stand in the way Prof.
  • "We have evidence showing that if you've been naturally infected with COVID-19 and you aren't vaccinated, your risk of getting reinfected with symptomatic disease is about 2.5–fold higher. " - and there you have it, she references the now very dated, and 250 person study from Kentucky that has been usurped by countless other studies. For a researcher, it's amazing she ignores the newer, larger sample studies that disprove this. I wonder why?
Five, the New England Journal of Medicine:


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I'd love to have Prof Durbin look at the NEJM study and compare that with the CDC Kentucky study. They say completely opposite things. Wonder what her position would be then?

Six:


How many do YOU need?
 
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No wonder you're so ******* batshit crazy, reading sites like this. You and others of your ilk should be quarantined in *dumbass* centers, kept at a safe distance from the general population.

Ah, Alinsky's attack. Well played Comrade. Dig. Try it once. It's actually true, though I don't think it will go far.

 
Hey, Floggy, you worthless diaper-licking ***-gerbil, I asked you two questions weeks ago, months ago, and you still have not responded. Because you are stupid and lazy, too dumb to run a search, I will repeat them here:
  • Why the hell is Sloppy Joe, the Boxer Bomber, the Human Whoopee Cushion, ordering those with NATURAL immunity to get a goddamn vaccine shot that provides no additional benefit?
  • Why does the vaccine shot data from the government (CDC) show the percentage of the TOTAL population that has already been vaccinated, rather than the ADULT population, i.e., the ones possibly at risk?
Back to you, fuckbag.

 
Yeah, you should try that, brave guy 8,000 miles away, protected by a border wall and a nation that actually looks after its citizens.

******* leftists ... they **** up everything they touch.

California - ****** up.
New York - ****** up.
Oregon - ****** up.
Washington state - ****** up.
Washington, D.C. - ****** up.

The liberal losers then leave the ****** places they ****** up and go to successful conservative states (Arizona, Texas, Tennessee, Georgia) and try to **** them up as well. Liberals are the typhoid Mary's of politics, political zombies stupidly roaming America and ******* up everything they touch.

So go ahead, tough guy, round us up. You might want to be careful with my neighbor, however. And Ogres.

Yep, even the New York Slime came out this week and said that Blue States and Liberals now are the problem. Their policies fail.




Journalists at The New York Times looked into what happens when Democrats control all the levels of power in state and local governments across the U.S.

They found out that “blue states” — not red ones — “are the problem.”

NYTimes video journalist Johnny Harris asks, “What do Democrats actually do when they have all the power?”

“In key respects, many blue states are actually doing worse than red states,” the journalists explained.

“It is in the blue states where affordable housing is often hardest to find, there are some of the most acute disparities in education funding and economic inequality is increasing most quickly.”

They focused on the issues of affordable housing, economic equality, and educational opportunity.

In conclusion, they claim that “liberal hypocrisy is fueling American inequality” and not Republican opposition.

 
Employers have all kinds of mandates, but essentially zero mandates regarding health or immunization since such requirements would almost certainly violate state disability non-discrimination laws.

Second, exactly what "law" governs vaccine shot mandates? King Fartbag the Soiler's orders are not laws. I mean, you have to know that, right?

Third, you do know that no Federal law governs vaccines shots, and instead those actual laws are in fact state laws, right?
Its common that vaccines are mandated for healthcare workers. How does disability apply?

The vaccines aren’t mandated, people are free to quit their jobs.
 
Get vaccinated or lose your job is what you consider to be a CHOICE or FREE WILL. And people wonder why Liberalism is considered by many to be a mental illness.
Not allowing employers to mandate requirements of their employees is conservative? How so?
 
Not allowing employers to mandate requirements of their employees is conservative? How so?
My body, my choice...at least that is what you libtards like to preach about abortion. I guess that only applies when it fits your narrative, no surprise there. Again, only people with mental illness cannot see the hypocrisy that they spew on a daily basis.
 
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Legitimate pieces? How about one?

Meantime, let me destroy this one, since you only read headlines (have I reminded you that you absolutely suck at this link game)?

First, the overall premise of the article is to get vaccinated before you get Covid, and not to wait on your body's natural immune system to fight it. That's 80% of the point of the article. Which isn't what we have been discussing. The question is - is natural immunity better than just being vaccinated? Which the answer is overwhelmingly, yes.

Two, you are quoting Johns Hopkins University. You are on official record for discrediting JHU and Doctor Makary. You cannot with any integrity now point to JHU as a legitimate source. Shows your confirmation bias.

Three, Anna Durbin licks Makary's boots. Compare their profiles and awards in the faculty section of JHU. She's literally not on the same plane, but ok.

Four, she makes the same mistakes every other proponent for mass vaccination makes, with some bullshit quotes like:
  • "It's Russian roulette," she says. "Young people tend to think they're invincible. But it just takes that one slip and your entire life could change." - she makes the fallacy of spreading misinformation trying to convince young people they are at "risk" from Covid when they are 900% more likely to die from drinking.
  • "With the delta variant, we're seeing many more young people on ventilators in hospitals and dying, Durbin says. " - really??? Where are these overwhelming numbers Professor? I mean, substantial, overwhelming evidence that this is of grave concern.
  • "And declining the vaccine is more than just a personal decision: An infected person can easily transmit the virus to others, including immunocompromised people at higher risk for grave illness and children under 12 who can't yet access the vaccines." - Ummm, professor, countless studies the world over have shown that the young don't spread Covid. For instance, not one teacher in the UK has gotten Covid from a student. None identified in the US yet either.
  • "We're seeing huge rates of hospitalizations and deaths, and you don't want to risk becoming one of those statistics." - actually we are seeing declining rates of deaths. But let's not facts stand in the way Prof.
  • "We have evidence showing that if you've been naturally infected with COVID-19 and you aren't vaccinated, your risk of getting reinfected with symptomatic disease is about 2.5–fold higher. " - and there you have it, she references the now very dated, and 250 person study from Kentucky that has been usurped by countless other studies. For a researcher, it's amazing she ignores the newer, larger sample studies that disprove this. I wonder why?
Five, the New England Journal of Medicine:


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I'd love to have Prof Durbin look at the NEJM study and compare that with the CDC Kentucky study. They say completely opposite things. Wonder what her position would be then?

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How many do YOU need?
Please direct me to a major medical association that advises people with natural immunity not get vaccinated.
 
Meantime, let me destroy this one, since you only read headlines (have I reminded you that you absolutely suck at this link game)?
For months, possibly a year or more you requested that links be given to support the opinions that were argued.
Now that unread links are provided, it seems rather harsh to expect that they would actually be read and comprehended.
Far too many can't get past the 10 second sound bite.
 
Its common that vaccines are mandated for healthcare workers. How does disability apply?

Because a large number of Americans have pre-existing medical conditions, including cancer treated with chemo, blood cancers, those receiving lymphocyte-depleting therapies (anti-CD20 antibody treatments, and others) preventing them from getting the vaccine shot.

Most states recognize cancer as a disability. If I have cancer and get a medical recommendation from my treating physician NOT to get the vaccine shot, that does me no good under the order from King Fartbag the Soiler.

The vaccines aren’t mandated, people are free to quit their jobs.

What is particularly bothersome about your stupidity is your absolute insistence on how right you are. Here, let me deal with your latest stupidity.

"You can just quit your job so **** your disability." On the same level of genius, "So what if my business does not cater to blacks? They can buy their groceries somewhere else." "So what if I require employees to have blonde hair and blue eyes? People with darker hair and brown eyes can work somewhere else."

Get it?

Once again, for the love of God, run your **** by a 3rd grader before posting.
 
Not allowing employers to mandate requirements of their employees is conservative? How so?

Jesus H. Christ with a hockey stick ...

Not a single employer was mandating the shot before King Fartbag's order. You think it appropriate for King Fartbag to simply ORDER businesses to ORDER their employees to take medicine they don't want and very likely don't really need, without a law giving him that power and where the Federal government is abusing the traditional state powers involving health and safety, as stated in the 10th amendment and Supreme Court cases dating back more than 200 years??
 
Steeltime, have they run a Section 5150 wellness check on you yet? You're still free to walk around, post on the internet?

I thought they would have knocked on your door by now. Better late than never. Sit tight.
 
Its common that vaccines are mandated for healthcare workers. How does disability apply?

The vaccines aren’t mandated, people are free to quit their jobs.
Hold up, I agree that employers are free to set certain lawful policies. But there is no reasonable explanation for an employer to be able to tell you to get an abortion, a vaccine/shot, vasectomy, or force you to participate in religious practices. It's not carte blanche for employers to trample on freedoms. What we have is a government blackmailing employers to threaten employees that if they don't do as they say you'll be heavily fined and/or lose government contracts. It's unconstitutional, period. So, you can't take the flippant view of "Dont like it, leave" when there is potentially nothing to go to.

And here I thought you progressives were empathetic and preach inclusivity and understanding. Boy, was I mistaken.
 
Steeletime, have they run a Section 5150 wellness check on you yet? You're still free to walk around, post on the internet?

I thought they would have knocked on your door by now. Better late than never. Sit tight.
Have they castrated you yet? I would have thought for sure that they would want to prevent any of your ilk from walking around.
 
And here I thought you progressives were empathetic and preach inclusivity and understanding. Boy, was I mistaken.
Only when it fits their agenda.
 
Please direct me to a major medical association that advises people with natural immunity not get vaccinated.

Aaaaannnnnddddd once again, Floggy gets his teeth kicked in on point ONE, diverts to point TWO.

Floggy posts ****** link saying vaccines are better than natural immunity in a head to head battle.
TSF shreds this position, establishes for the 100th time the power of natural immunity, as studied/documented.
Floggy shifts to but, but, but, but....are doctors advising you not to get vaccinated?

Countless physicians are advising patients not to get the jab. Some are suing the Government. Many are prescribing Ivermectin and other therapeutics. They are not all in lockstep.

You direct your own-non-contributing *** to data. I do too much work to educate you already. I'd charge you a fee, but you wouldn't pay that either.
 
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