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The truth is often hated here.
We'd better win today vs a back up QB at home, otherwise, Tolin will be 1-5 in his last six playoff games
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The truth is often hated here.
We'd better win today vs a back up QB at home, otherwise, Tolin will be 1-5 in his last six playoff games
At least we're not facing a really good QB like Tim Tebow.
I don't know who this "Tolin" is that you speak off. Does he have a player named Durpee?
As for the Tomlin coached Steelers ... Here We Go!!
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Or he's 2-1 in his last three
It's pretty obvious Bradshaw has a problem with jealousy when it comes to his legacy. I agree with what he said about Tomlin, don't agree with him doing it though.
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As of today he has a better winning playoff percentage than Cowher with the same number of slwoB repuS wins and losses in 5 less seasons. But, as you say, the truth is often hated here.
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This is Steeler fan mythology. Cowher wanted Andrews because he never thought Ben would be there when it was their time to pick.
This is verified by Cowher, Colbert, and Rooney himself.
That myth is repeated over and over on this board and all over the web as if it's true.
I guess it needs to be that way to fit the "Cowher thought he could win it all without a franchise QB" narrative that people have made up.....uh no..he never had the opportunity to grab a guy like Ben.
Somebody should tell Dan Rooney that then. Because in all the excerpts from his book that have been posted on here regarding that issue, Dan says that he had to (paraphrasing) "swing the discussion back to the QB". And only after he had done so were they able to find a consensus.
"I couldn't bear the thought of passing on another great quarterback prospect the way we had passed on Dan Marino in 1983, so I steered the conversation around to Roethlisberger,'' Rooney writes in his new autobiography. "After some more talk, we came to a consensus and picked Roethlisberger. . . He was just what we needed.''
- Dan Rooney, My 75 years with the Pittsburgh Steelers and the NFL
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Of course, they better tell Bouchette he got it wrong too since he mentions it in his review of Dan's book:
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2007/11/04/Ed-Bouchette-on-the-Steelers-Dan-Rooney-s-book-Family-Business/stories/200711040190
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2007/11/04/Ed-Bouchette-on-the-Steelers-Dan-Rooney-s-book-Family-Business/stories/200711040190
Yes that is exactly the quote I was going to use.
Read it again, he's not saying he wanted to pick Ben against the others.
What does Colbert have to say?
"We couldn't trade up because we knew the cost to trade up was very expensive. ... Tommy Maddox was coming off a pretty good season, and we were looking to shore up our offensive line. If we had the opportunity to add a young quarterback, because Tommy was a little bit older, we were going to do that."
Coach [Bill] Cowher unselfishly made the statement that, for the sake of the organization, if a quarterback is available, we should give it serious thought. Was that the most immediate need? No, because we didn't plan on Ben playing his rookie year. ... Tommy [Maddox] gets hurt in the first game, the rest was history."-----Kevin Colbert
I'll try and find Cowher's words.
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It only took 18 pages for everyone else to "laugh and move on" before I even posted on the matter, I guess. I'm not trying to make more (or less) of anything. I just disagreed with how witty the comment was, and I've provided some pretty good reasons why I felt that way...excuse me for "digging all deep" and questioning the words of your hero.
Whatever, guy. You'll defend MT to the death no matter what he says or does, right or wrong. I should know that by now. As further evidenced by your undying love and excuse-making in the "Ben in a walking boot?" thread.
It was great to see the Steelers come out with a solid gameplan, and get control against an inferior opponent early. However, having Ben in the game and passing the ball with 4+ minutes left up by 18 in Dolphins' territory was an unnecessary mistake, and I hope it doesn't cost them.
See? I can credit the man when it's due. The question is, will you EVER discredit him? I won't hold my breath.
Lol my hero. I bet money you can't find one post on this site where I ever called Tomlin a great coach or the best in the league. Post one. Tomlin is a good coach who doesn't get credit for anything he does well or did well. But gets the blame for everything. Yes I know he's the head coach and the buck stops with him. But some **** is over the top. That's where I defend Tomlin when it's over the top and when someone goes over and beyond to discredit him. Sorta like the reaching you doing in this thread.
I don't agree with every decision he makes. But just because I can disagree with him and not call him dumb or stupid or a sorry coach doesn't make him my hero.
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That doesn't make sense. It's not like you submit your pick beforehand based on who you think will be available.
http://www.scout.com/nfl/steelers/story/1744548-q-a-alejandro-villanueva
Q&A: Alejandro Villanueva, Steelers

JIM WEXELL
Yesterday at 7:17 PM
The "cheerleader" comment by Terry Bradshaw is still an issue with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Alejandro Villanueva spoke about its unifying effect.
PITTSBURGH -- Mike Tomlin has said that he first spotted his left tackle,*Alejandro Villanueva, during the playing of the National Anthem before a preseason game in 2014.
Villanueva was with the Philadelphia Eagles, but was cut and signed by the*Steelers, who moved him to the offensive line and taught him the job on the practice squad.
On Sunday, Villanueva played every snap of his 17th start of the 2016 season.
He obviously played well. His team won, his quarterback was sacked only one time and his running back set a team post-season rushing record.
After the game, Villanueva emerged from the tunnel leading to the locker room, saw his coach, and said, "Hey, there's the cheerleader!" Tomlin laughed and said, "That's right, I*was cheering my (butt) off."
Villanueva had some interesting comments about the moment, and about Tomlin.
Q:*Has the cheerleader thing become a rallying cry?
AV:*"A hundred percent. (Pause) I think that's something that makes him a really good coach. Thirty-one teams didn't give me a chance to play in the NFL. I've been denied from*the Bears, the Bengals, the Eagles. I don't think there's any player who's ever failed three times at a rookie minicamp tryout and is still playing in the NFL. So for me, Coach Tomlin*means a lot. He gave me an opportunity to learn a position in a year on the practice squad. He didn't cut me when there were team needs. He invested in me and he believed in me*and that's the only thing I needed to go on with my career. So for me, his leadership, his mentorship, his ability to get the best out of me has meant the world to me and has*allowed me to feed my family and has hopefully helped the team be a better team. He's a great coach. He's a great leader. Obviously when those*comments were heard in the locker room, they affected me personally because I have so much admiration and I want to defend my coach at all costs."
Q:*Do others feel the same way?
AV:*"I think the whole team feels the same way. I think everybody loves Coach Tomlin. He's got a personal relationship with everybody. I think if you ask 32 teams in the NFL, less*than half will be able to tell you that they've had a conversation with their head coach, and I think every single person in this locker room has a conversation with Coach Tomlin*every single day. And that's not something I take for granted, because I've been in other organizations where that doesn't *happen. I think I'm very fortunate and I think this team is*very, very fortunate to have Coach Tomlin as the head coach."
Q:*Not that you needed a rallying cry, considering the inherent motivation at playoff time, but has it helped unify?
AV:*"He keeps the team focused regardless of the circumstance. It doesn't matter if it's media. It doesn't matter. He's done a really good job of forcing everybody to stay focused.*This stuff happens on every single team. News breaks out every single year with teams all around the NFL, and that usually distracts locker rooms, divides the locker room. I think*everybody's really unified on this team because he's so open about everything. He discusses everything in a public forum. His coaching style is extremely effective and I think it*truly helps bring the best out of this team every single week."
Q:*He's said that camaraderie doesn't necessarily create winning, but that winning creates camaraderie. Agree?
AV:*"There's a mixture of both. He really wants to have us play for each other and that's what he's done this whole season. Teams like that are very tough to beat. Teams that play*for each other are usually going to get the best out of the players. You could put in a list a number of things he does on a daily basis to get this team ready to go every single week.*Little things that mean big things. Every single thing he says has a meaning and purpose. Everything is very calculated. There's not a thing he would tell a player that doesn't have a*purpose. He's not a guy that just wants to talk. He's always very focused on coaching 53 players personally, so that's a very tough challenge and I think he does that very well.*Regardless of whether we have a position coach, I have a personal relationship with Coach Tomlin and I have expectations that I owe him, and he lets me know those things every*single week."
Q:*I took the camaraderie comment as having a built-in humility to it. He doesn't take credit for anything, does he?
AV:*"Never does. No, he never does. He's a great leader. He's responsible for everything the team does or fails to do. Every single win we owe it to him. Every single loss he's*always taking credit for."
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Q&A: Alejandro Villanueva, Steelers

JIM WEXELL
Yesterday at 7:17 PM
The "cheerleader" comment by Terry Bradshaw is still an issue with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Alejandro Villanueva spoke about its unifying effect.
PITTSBURGH -- Mike Tomlin has said that he first spotted his left tackle,*Alejandro Villanueva, during the playing of the National Anthem before a preseason game in 2014.
Villanueva was with the Philadelphia Eagles, but was cut and signed by the*Steelers, who moved him to the offensive line and taught him the job on the practice squad.
On Sunday, Villanueva played every snap of his 17th start of the 2016 season.
He obviously played well. His team won, his quarterback was sacked only one time and his running back set a team post-season rushing record.
After the game, Villanueva emerged from the tunnel leading to the locker room, saw his coach, and said, "Hey, there's the cheerleader!" Tomlin laughed and said, "That's right, I*was cheering my (butt) off."
Villanueva had some interesting comments about the moment, and about Tomlin.
Q:*Has the cheerleader thing become a rallying cry?
AV:*"A hundred percent. (Pause) I think that's something that makes him a really good coach. Thirty-one teams didn't give me a chance to play in the NFL. I've been denied from*the Bears, the Bengals, the Eagles. I don't think there's any player who's ever failed three times at a rookie minicamp tryout and is still playing in the NFL. So for me, Coach Tomlin*means a lot. He gave me an opportunity to learn a position in a year on the practice squad. He didn't cut me when there were team needs. He invested in me and he believed in me*and that's the only thing I needed to go on with my career. So for me, his leadership, his mentorship, his ability to get the best out of me has meant the world to me and has*allowed me to feed my family and has hopefully helped the team be a better team. He's a great coach. He's a great leader. Obviously when those*comments were heard in the locker room, they affected me personally because I have so much admiration and I want to defend my coach at all costs."
Q:*Do others feel the same way?
AV:*"I think the whole team feels the same way. I think everybody loves Coach Tomlin. He's got a personal relationship with everybody. I think if you ask 32 teams in the NFL, less*than half will be able to tell you that they've had a conversation with their head coach, and I think every single person in this locker room has a conversation with Coach Tomlin*every single day. And that's not something I take for granted, because I've been in other organizations where that doesn't *happen. I think I'm very fortunate and I think this team is*very, very fortunate to have Coach Tomlin as the head coach."
Q:*Not that you needed a rallying cry, considering the inherent motivation at playoff time, but has it helped unify?
AV:*"He keeps the team focused regardless of the circumstance. It doesn't matter if it's media. It doesn't matter. He's done a really good job of forcing everybody to stay focused.*This stuff happens on every single team. News breaks out every single year with teams all around the NFL, and that usually distracts locker rooms, divides the locker room. I think*everybody's really unified on this team because he's so open about everything. He discusses everything in a public forum. His coaching style is extremely effective and I think it*truly helps bring the best out of this team every single week."
Q:*He's said that camaraderie doesn't necessarily create winning, but that winning creates camaraderie. Agree?
AV:*"There's a mixture of both. He really wants to have us play for each other and that's what he's done this whole season. Teams like that are very tough to beat. Teams that play*for each other are usually going to get the best out of the players. You could put in a list a number of things he does on a daily basis to get this team ready to go every single week.*Little things that mean big things. Every single thing he says has a meaning and purpose. Everything is very calculated. There's not a thing he would tell a player that doesn't have a*purpose. He's not a guy that just wants to talk. He's always very focused on coaching 53 players personally, so that's a very tough challenge and I think he does that very well.*Regardless of whether we have a position coach, I have a personal relationship with Coach Tomlin and I have expectations that I owe him, and he lets me know those things every*single week."
Q:*I took the camaraderie comment as having a built-in humility to it. He doesn't take credit for anything, does he?
AV:*"Never does. No, he never does. He's a great leader. He's responsible for everything the team does or fails to do. Every single win we owe it to him. Every single loss he's*always taking credit for."
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What's Dri Archer doing now?
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Dri Archer was one who use to praise his legend QB Terry Bradshaw. Bradshaw had offered free lessons to Dri on "how to cut a rug". Dri, thinking Terry was reffering to Astro turf, took him up on his offer. Archer was shocked to find out it was all about singing and dancing........................... Archer being disapointed said **** this weasel **** and was leaving when Terry threw a "short" stack of pancakes at him barely missing even though Dri didn't have to duck as he was normally low enough to the ground.
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I'd bet money that if I had the time to search through your 6400+ posts, I could find several mentioning Tomlin's "greatness" in one form or another. Sorry, it's just not that important to me.
He doesn't get credit for anything he does well? What? You just quoted me complementing a solid gameplan against the Dolphins. In fact, I JUST credited the man for beating a weaker team soundly, something that's been a problem in the past...are you blind?
Since you seem to be on this site for 12+ hours a day, why don't you go through and "post one" quote of mine where I've EVER called Tomlin dumb or stupid? Good luck with that.
Oh mighty one I bet you can't find one quote from saying he is great. I've never did that. He resume is still being completed. I've called him a good coach but I've nvwr said great or best or anything close to that.
And since you seem to have a issue with my time on the site I'm not on 12 hrs a day I just never log out. And I've never said you specifically so there is no need for to search for that. You said specifically I called him great. WRONG!!!
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Just cornflakes for breakfast along with a banana on the go. Possibly Avacodo salad for lunch and a projected Pork Bean soup for supper, right after my Wednesday work out.
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Thanks for the tip but I don't drink coffee. Will keep that in mind though as I have friends that do. I drink water and along the way an unsweet / no ice, tea.
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I see some names have changed though they are the same assface people. What a long *** thread. Tomlin is great because he's great at leading other coaches who are under him. If you have great coaches like for instance our offense line coach you don't need to micro manage them. You let them coach that's their job. Other than jack del rio name one coach that has had or does have as many previous head coaches under him. A Great head coach manages his coaches. I'll say it again he's a great head coach! Name me a few coaches you'd prefer over him? He might not make all the right decisions on the field or with personal. Nobody does. How many winning seasons must a guy have to be considered great? 5,10,15 how many playoff games must one win or super bowl appearances? Go ask the bills or 49ers fans if they would like a great manager of coaches like tomlin!