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tapeANaspirin2it said:
Nobody disputes that. But there is a big difference between a hit directly to the head and a hit where the helmet collide as a secondary element of the initial contact.

if you did slo mo on every above the waste tackle in that game, i’d bet you’d be able to show helmets making contact on 80% of them.
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I agree, he made contact with the shoulder then contact with the head on impact. This is unfortunately still written in the rules. If helmet to helmet contact occurs after the initial contact with the shoulder, it is still considered by rule, to be a helmet to helmet hit. Subjected to a flag and a fine.

it's the new risk each and every time you tackle high, and the league I suppose, would prefer everyone making rugby tackles.
 
JuJu went for the same exact type of block just a few plays later and did it legally. I am fine with it being a penalty because that's what the rules are, but he wasn't trying to lead with the crown of his helmet. I am not a fan of taunting either, but I totally get why he would stand over Burfict and yes, it looked just like Hines Ward.
 
Here's the real football analysis ....



and a comment like these confirm it...

RihannasBabyDad
2 hours ago
wow I actually agree with the fat **** for once. That commentary all night was horrible. Would of been more entertaining with dying cats announcing the game
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Chris Stewart
3 hours ago
used to love john gruden, but after last night's broadcast i lost all respect for him.
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Wow this is a much more brutal crowd 24 hours removed from last nights game. Comments like these would have got most of you lambasted on the game thread.
Good to see everyone is back to enjoying the gladiatorial physicality that is football.

Whitlock is spot on in his comments and the suspension on JJSS is BS and I like all of you am glad 19 put Burfdefect flat on his ***. Same with the clean and dynamic hit put on that LeVeon Bell poser wannabe Mixon.

Ah. That feels better.


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Black & Gold Bleeder said:
top of D linemen hit offensive linemen in the jaw all the time.

It was a shoulder block in the chest. He ddint lead his head into the guys face or helmet.

Football happens.
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I have been trying all day in my head to come up with a way to make a block on a LB charging full speed without putting my head into his chest and towards the bottom of the helmet. I can't do it. Your only other options are: 1) get out of the way, 2) stand straight up with your hands out and get steamrolled, 3) or go low and take his legs out, which will also bring a penalty and maybe a worse injury. How else do you block someone coming that hard towards you and not put your head where his head was at? Please someone explain it to me.
 
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Holy ****...that might be the only time I've ever heard Whitlock being accurate.
 
Supersteeler said:
I have been trying all day in my head to come up with a way to make a block on a LB charging full speed without putting my head into his chest and towards the bottom of the helmet. I can't do it. Your only other options are: 1) get out of the way, 2) stand straight up with your hands out and get steamrolled, 3) or go low and take his legs out, which will also bring a penalty and maybe a worse injury. How else do you block someone coming that hard towards you and not put your head where his head was at? Please someone explain it to me.
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Easy answer is don't be a Steelers player to be made an example of... the Ward rule basically means 80% of blindside blocks that aren't diving at feet are potential calls, but they only get called if something else happens to draw attention to it... those flags were late cause if Burfict wasn't hurt and taunted... there would be no call....
 
That's my boy JuJu!

Keep that up and you may just catch up with Conner's jersey sales this year.

**** had to be taken care of, the rook took out the trash, racing up my favorite player list.
 
Gareth said:
dirty-dirty-hines-ward.jpg
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The good old days!

I had a GIF of this image on an old computer that crashed....Hines had actually grabbed this bungles facemask and was yanking it side to side.

I cant find that GIF anywhere. I'd pay to have it back.
 
Cope said:
I agree, he made contact with the shoulder then contact with the head on impact. This is unfortunately still written in the rules. If helmet to helmet contact occurs after the initial contact with the shoulder, it is still considered by rule, to be a helmet to helmet hit. Subjected to a flag and a fine.

it's the new risk each and every time you tackle high, and the league I suppose, would prefer everyone making rugby tackles.
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Then they should call every single play where two players helmets touch, just to be consistent. How many plays are there in a game? About 200 or so. I'm sure 200 consecutive penalties in a game would make for great action.

They called it because it was a hard hit. They didn't even freaking know their helmets made contact in regular speed. The call was for a hit against a defenseless player, not helmet to helmet. Hard hit today = penalty. Gotta protect that shield. It's an utter sham.
 
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Supersteeler said:
Then they should call every single play where two players helmets touch, just to be consistent. How many plays are there in a game? About 200 or so. I'm sure 200 consecutive penalties in a game would make for great action.

They called it because it was a hard hit. They didn't even freaking know their helmets made contact in regular speed. The call was for a hit against a defenseless player, not helmet to helmet. Hard hit today = penalty. Gotta protect that shield. It's an utter sham.
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Yep. Hitting running backs in the helmet. I'm sure birthdefect would have hit Bell in the helmet. If they're going to play this helmet hit **** make it for everyone. Cause you know safety. To me it's just dumb. The guys who are getting bashed in the head all the time are the linemen on both sides of the ball. Those guys don't matter I guess. It's all silly bullshit.
 
Steelr4evr said:
Yep. Hitting running backs in the helmet. I'm sure birthdefect would have hit Bell in the helmet. If they're going to play this helmet hit **** make it for everyone. Cause you know safety. To me it's just dumb. The guys who are getting bashed in the head all the time are the linemen on both sides of the ball. Those guys don't matter I guess. It's all silly bullshit.
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Lineman have helmet to helmet contact on virtually every play. They don't always lead with their head, but their helmets always end up touching. That was my point about flagging all 200 plays in a game. If that's the standard then have some ******* guts and throw the flag every time it happens. Then see how many people are still watching by the end of the season. It's all a bunch of disingenuous **** and fake outrage.
 
Cope said:
That is the rule Stewey. Helmets CAN'T hit. Even if contact is initiated with the shoulder and he slides up. He has to hit lower. If he hits him in the gut, this is a legal play.

It sucks being a fan of Ward and the 80s steelers where this play never used to register as anything but a devastating block. The rules have changed, and with it, some of JuJu's physicality will be flagged.
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I'm thinking that everyone is arguing over a non issue.

This may have nothing to do with helmet to helmet but everything to do with the thread title "blindside".
Enter The "Hines Ward Rule" which simply states the a player cannot blindside a player in the head area regardless of how contact to the head area was made.

If you read the actual rule regarding helmet to helmet, it states that incidental helmet to helmet contact is not penalized, therefore JuJu's hit was legit in that regard. He led with the shoulder but had incidental H to H contact.

A 15-yard penalty will be called if a runner or a tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players clearly are outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle-to-tackle and from 3 yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team's end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or a tackler against an opponent would not be deemed a foul.

So apparently the foul committed was not H to H but rather a blind side block.

So here we have it from some years ago...
The NFL today approved four new rules that focus on player safety, including the so-called Hines Ward Rule that affects blocking tactics. The blocking rule makes illegal a blindside block if it comes from the blocker's helmet, forearm or shoulder and lands to the head or neck area of the defender.

Yep, JuJu made a nice clean block, except that it was illegal.
 
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Where is the definition of blindside? JuJu was directly in front of Burfict and Burfict was within a step or 2 of making the tackle. This wasn't some hit away from the play or from the side.
 
I think Pittsburgh Dad said it best after JuJu Quantum Leaped Birthdefect to another time dimension. “I’m buyin a $350 authentic JuJu jersey. I’m all in for that kid na’”.



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It is known as a crack back block it is illegal but that one was beautiful I just hope Juju was standing over him and saying what ***** Hines Ward sends best wishes and as far as Burfict being hurt already he does that **** every game too slow to Steelers down here we go Steelers

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So I'm looking at the rules from https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/defenseless-player/

Basically -- Burfict qualified as a defenseless player because of item 9 under section 1:

"A player who receives a “blindside” block when the path of the offensive blocker is toward or parallel to his own end line."

In the play, the direction JuJu was hitting Burfict from was close to parallel with the Steelers end line.

And the block was illegal due to item 1 under section 2:

"forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenselessplayer by encircling or grasping him"

So by rule, I agree with the call. But I don't think it was at all intentional, and JuJu will have to learn to get a little lower when blocking someone like that.
 
Holy crap that's a bad rule... you basically can't hit anybody running parallel to the lines on the field. You can hit them forcibly with any part of your body and basically have to just bump into them and hope they don't flatten you. Time to start taking out knees...

THIS...not the violence...THIS is what is ruining the NFL. Not the protests, not the celebrations...none of it. People are turning off the NFL because the NFL is becoming less and less football.
 
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