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Are you kidding me, wait till Ben retires you'll wish he was still here. Tip balls aren't always Ben''s fault.
Ben in a walking boot?
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So you are now comparing Ben to Kordell, LMAO. Kordell never found a rhythm because he did suck. That's why nobody blamed it on rhythm.
Be ready when your number is called...you never actually played football did you? Most positions aren't at peak performance on their first plays and it takes a few plays to get comfortable.
Actually, I took it as he was comparing PEOPLE'S TREATMENT/OPINIONS of Kordell and Ben when they made mistakes rather than comparing the actual players themselves. I could be wrong.
Also, if AB is on the field on offense and Bell is on the field on offense and a play is called that focuses on them being the primary option ... their number has been called. Whether that occurs on the first play of a drive, the second, or the last. Cold, warm, hot. I don't care. They're professionals and need to be ready ... when their number is called. Of course, that's just my opinion and I wouldn't want to speak as to what Antdrew meant; just how I took what he said.
Yeah I'm comparing the two. SMH. I'm comparing any QB who played in a run first offense. When that QB passed the ball he was expected to complete it. And for the record I'm not bashing Ben I'm bashing the notion that he threw a pick because we ran the ball(very well I might add) and he didn't throw the ball for a half hour nonsense.
nope never played a down in my life SMH. Lol
So any fuckups that occur in the first few plays of the game should be excused cause guys aren't comfortable. Hmmm ok. Tell that to the guys who think if we don't come out crushing in the first quarter on both sides of the ball that we weren't ready to play
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I guess I do write well enough sometimes for people to to comprehend. That's exactly what I meant Steelbuckeye
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In Ben's defense, yes! Sometimes it does take a few snaps to get in peak performance. Sometimes bad stretches can happen for weeks. Football is a high activity and strenuous on the body. I played a season in high school and played hockey as well. If I can attest that I've had days/weeks where I was off, I can see Ben having those days. He'll be ok. Not worried about stats or int's as long as they get the W. In recent games, Ben has overcome his int's
If I recall, that foot fracture ****** him up before. Nothing good here at all. We need him 100% to have any chance. ******* pissed he was still in the game especially to just hand the ******* ball off. Dumb! Dumb! ******* dumb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ben was really good at converting 3rd downs when we were a run first team his rookie year.
He was kinda neutered under Cowher/Whisenhunt. Tomlin/Arians was too much drop backs with a swiss cheese O line. Tomlin/Haley has Ben getting rid of the ball more and allows Ben more freedom to call his stuff. The way I see it is Cowher didn't expose Ben to just letting him sling it. As Ben has gotten more comfortable within games, Tomlin loosens the leash on Ben
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11-5, with injuries to #2-#4 WR, missing #1 RB for three weeks, starting DL playmaker out for quite a bit of the season (and the playoffs), 3 rookies starting on D for multiple games. Winning the Division to make the playoffs and, so far, a win in the playoffs.
There is, probably, more than 80% of the fans of other teams in this league WISH they had that level of success. But feel free to continue bitching about the coaching.
Remember when Ben almost died because of the rib injury? How about the foot fracture from a few years ago that turned out to be a bone bruise? Ben has been known to embellish his injuries. Used to piss Cowher off, lol.
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Damn a lot of arguing with people taking firm positions on one side or another, but I think it's a lot more nuanced than that.
Is it difficult for Ben to get into a rhythm when we have a 10 play drive of all runs and he doesn't throw a pass for 30 min? Absolutely.
Does that mean he is absolved of bone-headed decisions? No. He definitely does this from time to time.
It is absolutely possible that both of these factors are at play and causing the decline in play of our QB.
Have we won 8 games in a row despite Ben's troubling INT streak lately? We sure have,
Is it still troubling that he throws them? No doubt - we would win games even more handily without them, and we'll need him at his best vs. KC and NE.
So really, both of these points of view have merit.
Let's stop arguing with each other so much and realize that we're all bringing good points to the table here regarding Ben's play. The bottom line is that, while Le'Veon has been the straw that stirs the drink lately, Ben will always be the backbone. Regardless of what excuses we can make for him, or how we are able to overcome bad plays he makes, we all know we need him to be at his best, and healthiest. Personally, I do not think "first 3 quarters vs Baltimore" Ben is good enough to bring us ring #7. I think "4th q vs Baltimore" or "first quarter vs Miami" Ben ABSOLUTELY is, and then some. So I don't think we necessarily need 1st q Miami Ben, but we need better than "1st 3 quarters vs Baltimore" Ben, and better than "2nd half vs Miami" Ben. We need the guy who has shown up in spurts in recent weeks to play complete games vs. KC, NE, and NFC.
Is it difficult for Ben to get into a rhythm when we have a 10 play drive of all runs and he doesn't throw a pass for 30 min? Absolutely.
Does that mean he is absolved of bone-headed decisions? No. He definitely does this from time to time.
It is absolutely possible that both of these factors are at play and causing the decline in play of our QB.
Have we won 8 games in a row despite Ben's troubling INT streak lately? We sure have,
Is it still troubling that he throws them? No doubt - we would win games even more handily without them, and we'll need him at his best vs. KC and NE.
So really, both of these points of view have merit.
Let's stop arguing with each other so much and realize that we're all bringing good points to the table here regarding Ben's play. The bottom line is that, while Le'Veon has been the straw that stirs the drink lately, Ben will always be the backbone. Regardless of what excuses we can make for him, or how we are able to overcome bad plays he makes, we all know we need him to be at his best, and healthiest. Personally, I do not think "first 3 quarters vs Baltimore" Ben is good enough to bring us ring #7. I think "4th q vs Baltimore" or "first quarter vs Miami" Ben ABSOLUTELY is, and then some. So I don't think we necessarily need 1st q Miami Ben, but we need better than "1st 3 quarters vs Baltimore" Ben, and better than "2nd half vs Miami" Ben. We need the guy who has shown up in spurts in recent weeks to play complete games vs. KC, NE, and NFC.
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Thank you. Tomlin sucks.
8 straight wins.
Well Ben is out of the walking boot, the sky can be lifted back up.
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There is just so much whining here about Tomlin.....THE STATS DON'T LIE...........The guy has put up the numbers.......or do we need to go to the Scoreboard again?
You are correct and I remember that playoff run. Good times
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Pretty hard to compare Ben with Cowher to Ben with Tomlin. Ben was a true rookie starter. He was only with Conger for three years. I think he has evolved some since 2006.
My 9-year-old son went outside to throw the football with his buddy at the end of the third quarter, came back in about 15 minutes later, looked at the 30-6 score, and said: "They don't still have the starters in, do they?"
What the hell are you talking about?
Seattle got the ball on their own 16 yard line, up by 13 points with almost 8 minutes left, and Detroit had all 3 timeouts left. Why would Pete Carroll pull his starting QB at that point? Houston was also only up by 2 scores with 4+ minutes left...and O'Brien did what he was supposed to do, even after a false start: They handed it off 6 straight times, had Oakland burn their 3 remaining timeouts, and they punted the ball to the Raiders' 7 with just over 2 minutes left.
And if Jones had come in and fumbled the ball, the Steelers still would have been up 18 points with around 5 minutes left in the game. So what? It still would have been the correct decision. I love the nuthuggers who say that Tomlin can't win, no matter what he decides. That's a bunch of bullshit. There's a couple of guys here who hate Tomlin unequivocally. Most of the rest of us "haters" just loathe the bad choices he makes.
No reason whatsoever Ben should have been on the field at that point of the game, let alone throwing passes. And, yes, McCarthy also put Rogers at risk with the same stupid ****. Those two quarterbacks, especially, mean WAY too much to their respective teams.
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Ben said on his radio show that he is not injured. He expects that he will rest during Wednesday's practice (standard operating procedure at this point in the season) but will be full go on Thursday.
Per his radio show. Just finished listening to it. Ben is fine no issues boot was precautionary, he will probably take his usual off day Wednesday and practice on Thursday. Haley called the pass play and it was a good call. Young WR ran the wrong route and if he had run it right he would of gotten it out quick and the play was there. The Porter hasn't been addressed as a team yet but vowed the focus will be on KC it's playoff time
BTW this kodi app is great able to listen to Pittsburgh radio
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CMT just admitted it was he who made the 3rd down pass play call. Brilliant call.
Tomlin made the call to throw takes responsibility
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