I'm getting the feeling that we will resign Heyward and let Beachum test FA. If he leaves you could see Gilbert back at LT and maybe Adams is resigned to play RT. We will lock up DeCastro after this year as well.
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They tried Gilbert at Left it didn't work.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/20/steelers-will-move-marcus-gilbert-to-left-tackle/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/20/steelers-will-move-marcus-gilbert-to-left-tackle/
Since the arrival of a real offensive line coach I suspect all of these guys will have improved a lot. Alejandro has also made a big jump in size and skill since he was signed last year and could also compete for the LT spot. He is easily the biggest and most athletic of all of the possibles at the position. Beachum has too much too offer the team being able to do a decent job at any position on the line from tackle to center. If he looses his starting spot and does not beat someone for another spot he will easily be the best back up on the team, I expect him to be kept. I also suspect he might be a reasonable priced signing because he does not seem to be me first type of guy and seems to like where he is. Of all the guys on the team I think Beachum is a lock as at least a back up and will dress for every game he is healthy.
Guys that might be nearing the end of time here could be Adams, Foster, Wallace and any other vets they have depending on how the new kids look, if the new kids hit the practice squad they might be something next season and that might be the time the heave hoe hits.
Guys that might be nearing the end of time here could be Adams, Foster, Wallace and any other vets they have depending on how the new kids look, if the new kids hit the practice squad they might be something next season and that might be the time the heave hoe hits.
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Other than Pouncey Beachum may be the best o-lineman and has probably improved the most over the last 2 yrs. Kind of funny you would think a guy who has never played a game at LT at any level could beat him out.
After we resign Heyward there won't be money left to sign Beach to the market rate. Gilbert can play LT and did ok the one year he did it. I think Munch could get him to play it better. Adams can play RT, so after the season he will be cheap and we cam re-sign him. I'm just saying...this is how it will probably play out. You can't sign everyone.
They may find ways to sign a few more guys particularly if they can move some money to next year as the 8 million of dead woodley money goes away this year.
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I like our current group of linemen, but always rooted for Beachum for overcoming the odds to develop into a starting LT. A solid citizen and a guy I hope we can lock into a long-term deal.
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Honestly, Beachum may have more overall value to the team than Heyward, given the relative importance of their respective positions.
Gilbert was such a disaster at LT a few years ago, he lost the job to Adams within a week of training camp.
I like Heyward, but protecting Roethlisberger in his last few prime years needs to take precedence.
Gilbert was such a disaster at LT a few years ago, he lost the job to Adams within a week of training camp.
I like Heyward, but protecting Roethlisberger in his last few prime years needs to take precedence.
He played left tackle on a team that did not have anyone else that could play left tackle and was picked to be a guard and utility backup. Gilbert failed and so did Adams at left Tackle and they were tried before Beachum. If Beachum went down at left tackle the next guy to go out there was Pouncey at one point in the season. He was in competition with no one. The prospect is 6 foot 9 inches tall 348 pounds and used to play tight end. He has been through some very tough training in the military that stresses agility. The guy has lots of potential and has been coached by Munch for a bit now and just might be able to do that very thing. Tunch and Wolfley are very high on this kids chances as well and they likely have some understanding of the position.
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I agree that Beachum is the OL player the Steelers can least afford to lose. A journeyman left tackle forced into a starting role ( Like Adams was ) can limit the passing attack., It can also get your QB injured. Adams was a bit reason why the Steelers started 0-4. The other was Tomlin playing Hood over Heyward. When the switch was made the team became much better.
Beachum's agent has the Steelers right where he wants them. Can the Steelers afford to re-sign Beachum, Heyward, and Gay next season? Likely not. But who stays and who goes? Could be William Gay if one of the rookie corners has a solid season.
As for Tunch and Wolf, you have to respect their opinion. However I dial it down a notch as some of it is hype. They said Gilbert was going to be a pro bowl guy. Not exactly. If the Army prospect can play, he's gets a roster spot, but to expect someone out of the game for so long to make an impact is a Kurt Warner like story. Very rare. If the army guy is the real deal, he'll save the Steelers 9-10 million in cap space ( What Beachum is likely worth as a free agent ) , and Beachum goes. Beachum will be in demand as a free agent, and the Steelers will likely get a 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick for losing him.
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Dammit, I thought this was a link to a group of lawyers...
maybe you are correct. I have a different memory. Maybe im wrong but I don't remember Gilbert EVER playing Left tackle.
If Gilbert was better at LT he would be playing it.
Neither Adams or Gilbert have the quick feet that is needed at LT, they would get Ben killed.
I think the Steelers resign Beachum, as Ben is no spring chicken. He needs stability at the position.
I think the FO are smart enough to figure that out.
I say this all the time and still feel this way. Steelers the majority of the time keep who they want.
I see them continuing to want Beachum moving forward as long as his play doesn't drop off.
Neither Adams or Gilbert have the quick feet that is needed at LT, they would get Ben killed.
I think the Steelers resign Beachum, as Ben is no spring chicken. He needs stability at the position.
I think the FO are smart enough to figure that out.
I say this all the time and still feel this way. Steelers the majority of the time keep who they want.
I see them continuing to want Beachum moving forward as long as his play doesn't drop off.
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Kind of funny some here think that a player who never played LT ever in his life might come in and take Beachum's job and make Beachum the utility OL guy. Beachum just might be our best OL on the team. I guess anything is possible though.
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IIRC Gilbert played LT at the start of his sophomore season and held his own until injury sidelined him . Then on his 3rd season he stank it up and lost the starter job at LT, but he was 1st LT on the depth chart during preseason
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Max Starks started every game at LT during Gilbert's second season in 2012.
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Beechum, could be our new MAX STARKS................ Foster currently is the weak liok. How he has made it this far, isn't because of his skill level but more of talent leval behind him (big behind lol)
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I heard we were gonna move Shazier to LT cause, you know, of his size and speed.
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Wasn't Foster a UDFA? He has done well for himself. Probably the weakest link on our line but serviceable.
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Prior to start of last years season, we had two bonified OL starters, Pouncy and DeCastro. After last year, Beechum would be included to that list. FOSTER, has never made that list. YES he has done well for himdself, no doubt, but none the less, not on that list. We have had a history of neglected / crappy OL, Foster is the last sentinal of that era. Gilbert and Adams are just not panning out as hoped.
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When critiquing the O-line remember
it produced a great season for Ben and Antonio and Bell
Every O-line will have it's weaker areas but this version from top to bottom is good enough for a SB win.
So I am not eager to replace say a Foster and or a etc. because I know they work together well, and have been staying for the most part healthy.
Foster not being a superstar should be resign-able Beachum will command more but doable as I don't think he is looked at as top 5.
With Ben on the end stage of his career, I would like to see this line stay intact. As much as possible (starters , and keeping injuries in mind)..
it produced a great season for Ben and Antonio and Bell
Every O-line will have it's weaker areas but this version from top to bottom is good enough for a SB win.
So I am not eager to replace say a Foster and or a etc. because I know they work together well, and have been staying for the most part healthy.
Foster not being a superstar should be resign-able Beachum will command more but doable as I don't think he is looked at as top 5.
With Ben on the end stage of his career, I would like to see this line stay intact. As much as possible (starters , and keeping injuries in mind)..