AXE FALLS in HOUSTON ....... bye bye Bill O'Brien
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Thanks. I'd have a spot for you in the organization. No worries, tackling dummy, and the janitor for the bathroom would be open for you. Camp turk would be tricky, as there's lots of really good a holes here. I'd have to think about that one.
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O'brien mostly did a good job there. The roster was never that good. He kept making the playoffs with **** QBs. Reports were that they were all set to draft Mahomes and the Chiefs traded up ahead of them. Texans GM Rick Smith then panicked and drafted Watson a bit high. Supposedly O'Brien never wanted Watson.
O'Brien and Smith kept butting heads and the owners knew they had to choose to keep Smith or O'Brien. They kept O'Brien who at that point was stuck with Watson. He traded away a 1st rounder to get LT Laremy Tunsil. Steep price but he got a solid LT and their OL improved quite a bit.
O'Brien takes heat for the Hopkins trade but the fact was that Hopkins was going to hold out. He wanted to be highest paid WR. They could not have kept Hopkins and also gave Watson a big contract.
I bet O'Brien wishes that he traded away Watson. That may not have been an option as a move like that would have to be signed off by owners and i'm guessing the owners would not part with their only marketable player. He was stuck with Watson and had to get what he could for Hopkins. People talk about him trading away 1st rounders but remember that he came from the Pats and they routinely trade out of the first round, so his experience is that you don't necessarily need 1st rounders to have good drafts.
Now without Hopkins, Watson is struggling. By the time O'Brien took over as GM, that ship was already sinking and Watson could be the anchor. I think in terms of coaching, O'Brien got the most out of the talent and even got them to overachieve most years.
Texans are now tied to Watson. They absolutely must hire a coach who will install a college style read option offense. Watson has subpar arm strength. He needs that run action to open the field for him. Bienemey will be the hot name no doubt, with what he's doing with Mahomes. But will the Texans wait for the Chiefs to be eliminated from the playoffs? Coaches on teams that go deep in the playoffs often miss out on jobs.
They could go with a hot name college coach. Tom Herman at Texas and Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma would have been hot names but they are cooling off quickly after bad losses. I think Florida coach Dan Mullen could be the guy.
Interesting notion. Could the Texans hire away a PAC 12 couch right now? Maybe Oregon's Mario Cristobal? Pac 12 is only playing a 6 game schedule starting in November and they had a bunch of guys opt out. Maybe you fire O'Brien now because you convinced Cristobal to jump ship.
O'Brien and Smith kept butting heads and the owners knew they had to choose to keep Smith or O'Brien. They kept O'Brien who at that point was stuck with Watson. He traded away a 1st rounder to get LT Laremy Tunsil. Steep price but he got a solid LT and their OL improved quite a bit.
O'Brien takes heat for the Hopkins trade but the fact was that Hopkins was going to hold out. He wanted to be highest paid WR. They could not have kept Hopkins and also gave Watson a big contract.
I bet O'Brien wishes that he traded away Watson. That may not have been an option as a move like that would have to be signed off by owners and i'm guessing the owners would not part with their only marketable player. He was stuck with Watson and had to get what he could for Hopkins. People talk about him trading away 1st rounders but remember that he came from the Pats and they routinely trade out of the first round, so his experience is that you don't necessarily need 1st rounders to have good drafts.
Now without Hopkins, Watson is struggling. By the time O'Brien took over as GM, that ship was already sinking and Watson could be the anchor. I think in terms of coaching, O'Brien got the most out of the talent and even got them to overachieve most years.
Texans are now tied to Watson. They absolutely must hire a coach who will install a college style read option offense. Watson has subpar arm strength. He needs that run action to open the field for him. Bienemey will be the hot name no doubt, with what he's doing with Mahomes. But will the Texans wait for the Chiefs to be eliminated from the playoffs? Coaches on teams that go deep in the playoffs often miss out on jobs.
They could go with a hot name college coach. Tom Herman at Texas and Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma would have been hot names but they are cooling off quickly after bad losses. I think Florida coach Dan Mullen could be the guy.
Interesting notion. Could the Texans hire away a PAC 12 couch right now? Maybe Oregon's Mario Cristobal? Pac 12 is only playing a 6 game schedule starting in November and they had a bunch of guys opt out. Maybe you fire O'Brien now because you convinced Cristobal to jump ship.
we all ***** about the Steeler's play calling but the Texans have seemed ******* clueless most games.
I think they are going to take their time and due their due diligence and then **** up the decision again during the offseason.
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Well they are from Houston.
Maybe they will take Tomlin in exchange for their 1st round pick. A guy can dream.
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Yes they are tied to Watson, and JJ Watt, neither is worth the cap money they are making. Tunsil is a good left tackle, not a great one and is scheduled to make 19.4 million in 2021. He's not worth that amount.
They also gave a washed up David Johnson 11 million a year. Had they passed on Johnson, perhaps Hopkins could gave been on the team, and their offense would have a chance.
This team is going to be bad for a while. The GM, whomever he is should be gone, and the next GM is needs to clean house. Like the Steelers, they are in negative cap space as of right now for 2021.
they don't have a first round pick next draft
they killed that team when they traded Hopkins...
The GM is the one that should go bye-bye..
The GM is the one that should go bye-bye..
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Another failure that fell from the Belicheat tree. I guess all these guys that worked for Belicheat just never learned to cheat the way he does. (current as of Jan of this year)
Bill O’Brien, Texans 54–48 (.529)
Matt Patricia, Lions 9–22–1 (.297)
Brian Flores, Dolphins 5–11 (.313)
Romeo Crennel 28–55 (.337)
Al Groh 9–7 (NFL)
Josh McDaniels 11–17 (.393)
Eric Mangini 33–48 (.407)
Jim Schwartz 29–52 (.358)
Nick Saban, Alabama 15–17 (.469) (NFL)
Jason Garrett, Cowboys (via Saban) 87–70 (.554)
Adam Gase, Jets (via Saban) 30–35 (.462)
Joe Judge, Giants
Coaching tree stats
Combined record: 281-330-1
Playoff appearances: 8
Super Bowl titles: 0
Just like all the QBs who have left that place in New England. All supposed to be stud QBs who would be a great pickup for someone. They all suck when they don't know the other teams plays in advance. Matt Cassel, Ryan Mallett, Garoppolo (Okay in the regular season - stillers shoulda beat him - folded in the SB). Witness the GOAT's first game with the Bucs ..... we'll have to see how that goes. Cheatin' bastids.
Bill O’Brien, Texans 54–48 (.529)
Matt Patricia, Lions 9–22–1 (.297)
Brian Flores, Dolphins 5–11 (.313)
Romeo Crennel 28–55 (.337)
Al Groh 9–7 (NFL)
Josh McDaniels 11–17 (.393)
Eric Mangini 33–48 (.407)
Jim Schwartz 29–52 (.358)
Nick Saban, Alabama 15–17 (.469) (NFL)
Jason Garrett, Cowboys (via Saban) 87–70 (.554)
Adam Gase, Jets (via Saban) 30–35 (.462)
Joe Judge, Giants
Coaching tree stats
Combined record: 281-330-1
Playoff appearances: 8
Super Bowl titles: 0
Just like all the QBs who have left that place in New England. All supposed to be stud QBs who would be a great pickup for someone. They all suck when they don't know the other teams plays in advance. Matt Cassel, Ryan Mallett, Garoppolo (Okay in the regular season - stillers shoulda beat him - folded in the SB). Witness the GOAT's first game with the Bucs ..... we'll have to see how that goes. Cheatin' bastids.
I read some where that O'Brien was both the coach and the GM.
I'll look for the link.
I'll look for the link.
That never stopped cooch from wanting a trade before, hell I hear Bell could still be had for two of Cleveland's number 1s.
Wow, I did not know he was the Coach AND GM. Now I know what it's like to be Coach...
if that were true I'm sure someone would have posted that already
in your dreams.....you probably don't even have a luxury automobile
Just Coach? I figured you might now know what it feels like to be Coach and GM.
You can rest assured that the GM walked out of the building at the same time as the former HC.
I do, I just don't brag about it...
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No you don't. He would never say "Wow I did not know" that is just not in him to do.
You have the guts to admit being wrong without having to try and weasel out of being wrong.
a '74 gremlin is not a luxury car
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all in the eyes of the beholder. My Jeep probably aint' drawin' no Luxury reviews. That's fine. But, ask nicely, and I might send you a pic of sunrise from a 4wd accessible only beach sometime.
but do hafta ask really, really nice like.
I'd love to, It's better than my Silverado! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I love cruisers so my SSR is my love. A true Steeler Tailgate machine!
The Model S is the family car...
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I'd love to, It's better than my Silverado! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I love cruisers so my SSR is my love. A true Steeler Tailgate machine!
The Model S is the family car...
LOVE it Cope but I see those all the time in the parking lot......................... My 97' S10 2wheel drive is a rarity like no other.........
Reality is that is a sweet ride Cope !!!
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Shutup dude...He drives a sports sedan.
I'd love to, It's better than my Silverado! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I love cruisers so my SSR is my love. A true Steeler Tailgate machine!
The Model S is the family car...
is this piss yellow?