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After reviewing the running backs, I picked the one who I think would be best for the Steelers.


How I formulate this ( which is an interest for some ) is as follows


1 ) Based on what I've seen in games
2 ) Based on the highlight clips on the web
3 ) Historical data on stats, level, and level of competition played
4 ) Combine and campus workouts.


I now believe Jonathan Taylor is the best back for the Steelers in round two. If we are talking round three, Cam Akers, but I don't think he will last until our comp pick in round three.

Why Taylor?


SPEED. Our backs are slow. In fact, our entire collection of skill players that start are on the slower side. Taylor brings home run speed. If he gets a good hole, or a defense that over commits, he can take it to the house and has done so on many occasions. He can also beat a linebacker to the outside to the sticks.


INSIDE POWER RUNNING. Taylor is the type that can move a pile and fall forward. He was a touchdown machine in the red zone. We need this on 3rd and short and goal line. Chris Boswell kicked 11 field goals inside the 29 yard line because the Steelers could not punch in in the end zone in 2019. This is way too much. In 2018 he only kicked three from this range. Taylor has above average one cut ability, top acceleration to the hole, and great stamina to run out the clock to finish games. He follows his blockers well. Arm tackles aren't going to slow him down. I also think Taylor would be perfect to set up play action. Paired with McDonald and Watt, we can get back to power football.


OUTSIDE RUNNING. Taylor has the speed to beat a Defensive End or Linebacker to the sticks. He should do well on counter players or pitches, and the Steelers have a Center and Guard that are good pullers to incorporate these strengths in his game. He's not a juke type or cutback guy in the open field.


VISION: Above average to good.


CONTACT BALANCE: Excellent, Taylor is able to bounce off would-be tacklers and maintain balance. Good balance is very important for a running back.


PASS BLOCKING: I'd say he's solid in this department


DURABILITY: Taylor has proven to be an iron man, starting 14, 13 and 14 games in his past three seasons under heavy usage. Conner just can't stay healthy and will be a free agent next year. If we draft Taylor, I'm for trading Conner for a draft pick.


3RD DOWN VALUE / PASS CATCHING. Taylor caught 26 balls last year for 9.6 yards a catch and 5 scores. While Taylor is not an ideal 3rd and long type of back, I'm okay with that as we have other players for that role. Taylor is a solid check down the receiver, who thanks to his size and power can turn a 3 yard pass into something every now and then.


COMPETITION AND PRODUCTION: Unmatched. Two back to back 2,000 years seasons in the Big TEN, and nearly 2,000 as a freshman with a career 6.7 average. Impressive as Taylor was a marked man.


BALL SECURITY This is a drawback. I think it could be partially corrected and coached to protect the football better once contact is made and learn how and when to reach out with the football. I can live with a fumble or two, as long as the back also produces long touchdown rounds.


WORKOUT NUMBERS / MEDICAL It's rare to see a back over 220 pounds that runs a sub 4.4 40 yard dash ( Measures acceleration top-end speed ), and has a shuttle time of 4.24. ( Measures change of direction stop and start ability from East to West ) A sub 4.4 is something most receivers can match, and a 4.24 shuttle would be desirable for cornerbacks. Taylor has no red medical flags.


https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jonathan-taylor?id=32195441-5943-1618-c081-5dd6b2d0b829


I like Taylor enough to trade up for him in round two, using a pick from next's years draft.


Why not the others?


J.K. Dobbins has not worked out. He said he was nursing an injury at the combine, but that was a long time ago and missed Ohio State's pro day. Is he that slow of a healer, or is he trying to hide lack of speed? A jack of many trades types, Dobbins doesn't seem to be great at anything. Would I take him in round two? It depends on who is on the board. Probably not. The lack of a full workout has cooled my interests in D.K Dobbins.


Swift. I think he's little overrated. He might be the best 3rd down back of the top 5 running backs in the draft, but I question if he can carry the load in the NFL, and what type of red-zone player he is. He might be the first running back picked due to his versatility and 3rd down skills. If Taylor is off the board, I'd lean toward Swift, though I don't think he has star potential as Taylor does.
 
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I just watched some game tape and I like Taylor better than Dobbins. So I'm in agreement with you.
 
Could not have reviewed Dobbins all that well because his name is J. K. Dobbins.... nor D.K....

DK Dobbins is a much better player ....... he is a cross between DK Metcalf and JK Dobbins ..... he will be better than LeMeon Bell .... #1 WR and #1 RB all in one package

Gonna reset the market:focus::focus:


Jonathon Taylor, JK & Swift are all more talented than anything we currently have on our roster.

Miami, Tampa Bay and KC are all possible RB needy and the RAMs now have 2 second round picks so I wouldn't put them out of the picture for moving up slightly if one of the premier RBs are still available mid 2nd round.

I would be happy with anyone of the 3........or Akers, Moss later on if a top OL is sitting there for us ..... I just want someone to take pressure off Ben and who can move the chains especially late in games:herewego:
 
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I would be happy with Dobbins, Taylor or Swift at 2.49. Hopefully one of them slides and we have that choice although the Steelers could still go WR or OL with that pick.
 
Excellent post Paul and the way the GENE pool is being manipulated, you are right in your assessment of the DK anology.

If a GREAT OL is there in the 2nd, I take him but understand he must be a start ready type. I also don't have any problem with RB in rnd 2 either but also MUST be a start ready type player. NO PROJECT type players in our 1st three picks.



Coach, you might have a decent "post" here so don't go adding every RB YOU CAN THINK OF INTO YOUR GAME OF

"NAME THEM ALL AND LATER SAY YOU PICKED OR WOULD HAVE TAKEN GAME"






Salute the nation
 
After reviewing the running backs, I picked the one who I think would be best for the Steelers.


How I formulate this ( which is an interest for some ) is as follows


1 ) Based on what I've seen in games translated little to nothing
2 ) Based on the highlight clips on the web highlight clips L O L
3 ) Historical data on stats, level, and level of competition played
4 ) Combine and campus workouts.


I now believe Jonathan Taylor is the best back for the Steelers in round two. If we are talking round three, Cam Akers, but I don't think he will last until our comp pick in round three.

Why Taylor?


SPEED. Our backs are slow. In fact, our entire collection of skill players that start are on the slower side. Taylor brings home run speed. If he gets a good hole, or a defense that over commits, he can take it to the house and has done so on many occasions. He can also beat a linebacker to the outside to the sticks.


INSIDE POWER RUNNING. Taylor is the type that can move a pile and fall forward. He was a touchdown machine in the red zone. We need this on 3rd and short and goal line. Chris Boswell kicked 11 field goals inside the 29 yard line because the Steelers could not punch in in the end zone in 2019. This is way too much. In 2018 he only kicked three from this range. Taylor has above average one cut ability, top acceleration to the hole, and great stamina to run out the clock to finish games. He follows his blockers well. Arm tackles aren't going to slow him down. I also think Taylor would be perfect to set up play action. Paired with McDonald and Watt, we can get back to power football.


OUTSIDE RUNNING. Taylor has the speed to beat a Defensive End or Linebacker to the sticks. He should do well on counter players or pitches, and the Steelers have a Center and Guard that are good pullers to incorporate these strengths in his game. He's not a juke type or cutback guy in the open field.


VISION: Above average to good.


CONTACT BALANCE: Excellent, Taylor is able to bounce off would-be tacklers and maintain balance. Good balance is very important for a running back.


PASS BLOCKING: I'd say he's solid in this department


DURABILITY: Taylor has proven to be an iron man, starting 14, 13 and 14 games in his past three seasons under heavy usage. Conner just can't stay healthy and will be a free agent next year. If we draft Taylor, I'm for trading Conner for a draft pick.


3RD DOWN VALUE / PASS CATCHING. Taylor caught 26 balls last year for 9.6 yards a catch and 5 scores. While Taylor is not an ideal 3rd and long type of back, I'm okay with that as we have other players for that role. Taylor is a solid check down the receiver, who thanks to his size and power can turn a 3 yard pass into something every now and then.


COMPETITION AND PRODUCTION: Unmatched. Two back to back 2,000 years seasons in the Big TEN, and nearly 2,000 as a freshman with a career 6.7 average. Impressive as Taylor was a marked man.


BALL SECURITY This is a drawback. I think it could be partially corrected and coached to protect the football better once contact is made and learn how and when to reach out with the football. I can live with a fumble or two, as long as the back also produces long touchdown rounds.


WORKOUT NUMBERS / MEDICAL It's rare to see a back over 220 pounds that runs a sub 4.4 40 yard dash ( Measures acceleration top-end speed ), and has a shuttle time of 4.24. ( Measures change of direction stop and start ability from East to West ) A sub 4.4 is something most receivers can match, and a 4.24 shuttle would be desirable for cornerbacks. Taylor has no red medical flags.


https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jonathan-taylor?id=32195441-5943-1618-c081-5dd6b2d0b829


I like Taylor enough to trade up for him in round two, using a pick from next's years draft.


Why not the others?


D.K. Dobbins has not worked out. He said he was nursing an injury at the combine, but that was a long time ago and missed Ohio State's pro day. Is he that slow of a healer, or is he trying to hide lack of speed? A jack of many trades types, Dobbins doesn't seem to be great at anything. Would I take him in round two? It depends on who is on the board. Probably not. The lack of a full workout has cooled my interests in D.K Dobbins.


Swift. I think he's little overrated. He might be the best 3rd down back of the top 5 running backs in the draft, but I question if he can carry the load in the NFL, and what type of red-zone player he is. He might be the first running back picked due to his versatility and 3rd down skills. If Taylor is off the board, I'd lean toward Swift, though I don't think he has star potential as Taylor does.

BALL SECURITY This is a drawback.

Which is why I prefer Dobbins over him. Or CEH.



But your wants is documented in the stickied threads.Thread like this is typical cooch. Throw a lot of **** against the wall and then in two years I liked Taylor all along.

Which we know would be a lie.


hi
 
DK Dobbins is a much better player ....... he is a cross between DK Metcalf and JK Dobbins ..... he will be better than LeMeon Bell .... #1 WR and #1 RB all in one package

Gonna reset the market:focus::focus:


Jonathon Taylor, JK & Swift are all more talented than anything we currently have on our roster.

Miami, Tampa Bay and KC are all possible RB needy and the RAMs now have 2 second round picks so I wouldn't put them out of the picture for moving up slightly if one of the premier RBs are still available mid 2nd round.

I would be happy with anyone of the 3........or Akers, Moss later on if a top OL is sitting there for us ..... I just want someone to take pressure off Ben and who can move the chains especially late in games:herewego:

Akers and Taylor has suspect hands (fumble concerns). Some talent there but that definitely gives me pause.
 
Akers and Taylor has suspect hands (fumble concerns). Some talent there but that definitely gives me pause.

Thought you might like this perspective on the RBs

Player / Fumble per Touch / TD per Touch /RushTD per Rush / RecTD per Rec

Jonathan Taylor 1.86% 5.68% 5.40% 11.90%
JK Dobbins 0.63% 5.40% 5.24% 7.04%
D'Andre Swift 1.36% 4.87% 4.55% 6.85%
Travis Etienne 0.72% 11.05% 10.93% 12.24%
Chuba Hubbard 1.81% 6.04% 6.19% 4.44%
Cam Akers 1.53% 5.19% 4.61% 10.14%
Clyde Edwards-Helaire 0.48% 5.74% 6.50% 1.56%
Ke'Shawn Vaughn 1.10% 5.17% 5.24% 4.55%
Zack Moss 1.03% 5.27% 5.34% 4.55%
Najee Harris 0.24% 6.37% 5.17% 18.92%
Eno Benjamin 1.06% 4.71% 4.69% 4.88%
Trey Sermon 0.53% 6.67% 6.49% 8.33%
A.J. Dillon 0.92% 4.62% 4.50% 9.52%
Lamical Perine 0.71% 5.32 % 4.47% 11.11%
Anthony McFarland 1.49% 4.83% 4.90% 4.17%

researched by Robbie K
 
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Thought you might like this perspective on the RBs

Player / Fumble per Touch/ TD per Touch/RushTD per Rush/ RecTD per Rec

Jonathan Taylor1.86% 5.68% 5.40% 11.90%
JK Dobbins0.63% 5.40% 5.24% 7.04%
D'Andre Swift1.36% 4.87% 4.55% 6.85%
Travis Etienne0.72% 11.05% 10.93% 12.24%
Chuba Hubbard1.81% 6.04% 6.19% 4.44%
Cam Akers1.53% 5.19% 4.61% 10.14%
Clyde Edwards-Helaire 0.48% 5.74% 6.50% 1.56%
Ke'Shawn Vaughn1.10% 5.17% 5.24% 4.55%
Zack Moss1.03% 5.27% 5.34% 4.55%
Najee Harris0.24% 6.37% 5.17% 18.92%
Eno Benjamin1.06% 4.71% 4.69% 4.88%
Trey Sermon0.53% 6.67% 6.49% 8.33%
A.J. Dillon0.92% 4.62% 4.50% 9.52%
Lamical Perine0.71% 5.32 % 4.47% 11.11%
Anthony McFarland1.49% 4.83% 4.90% 4.17%
Thought Akers would be higher good find. I knew Dobbins had some concerns too but the film I saw should good ball handling and sloppy for Akers. You can see Taylor's high concerns.

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BALL SECURITY This is a drawback.

Which is why I prefer Dobbins over him. Or CEH.

But your wants is documented in the stickied threads.Thread like this is typical cooch. Throw a lot of **** against the wall and then in two years I liked Taylor all along.

Which we know would be a lie.


hi





I'm stating who I want. Its Taylor. DUH. At this point with the draft so close, it's not going to change. Maybe if Dobbins works out like Superman...which I doubt he will. I'm endorsing Taylor and even said he's worth a trade up for. End of.


If you remember, I was the first here to endorse TJ Watt for our #1 pick. Home run. I also said Burns and J Jones would suck. Remember? On Burns I said, give me the down trade offer then. I wanted Howard and Simmons, two DB's who made the pro bowl.


So there, three pro bowl players I would have taken, the Steelers only took one and had two colossal busts


I laugh in your face. We both know your incapable of coming up with a post like this on your own. No, go back to your trailer, and cross your fingers I'm not right about Edmunds being the first-round disappointment too.
 
I'm stating who I want. Its Taylor. DUH. At this point with the draft so close, it's not going to change. Maybe if Dobbins works out like Superman...which I doubt he will. I'm endorsing Taylor and even said he's worth a trade up for. End of.


If you remember, I was the first here to endorse TJ Watt for our #1 pick. Home run. I also said Burns and J Jones would suck. Remember? On Burns I said, give me the down trade offer then. I wanted Howard and Simmons, two DB's who made the pro bowl.


So there, three pro bowl players I would have taken, the Steelers only took one and had two colossal busts


I laugh in your face. We both know your incapable of coming up with a post like this on your own. No, go back to your trailer, and cross your fingers I'm not right about Edmunds being the first-round disappointment too.

You are a simpleton.... most know you weren't the first one pimping Watt . I pimped him like no other.You just jumped on the Taylor bandwagon your first picks are in the sticky thread which is your picks. I still think Dobbins will have the better career I guess like you love to say we will see if I am right again. You are the most delusional retarded window licking Steeler fan I have ever witnessed. Trust me I have been on message boards for a long long time that is really saying something. No way shape or form could you do a better job than Colbert. I would say you are trolling but you really are that stupid to think that you are capable of doing a better job.

You only take bets if you can redo the terms. But you are some all seeing guru.

No you are a ******* joke, a ******* maroon, a ******* idiot. Nothing about you is even remotely intelligent.

Every time you claim something the majority of the time it is a lie.

You think you will impress someone with your garbage but nobody outside of a troll or someone trying to be nice to you will ever say anything different.

You are a piece of ****, now run a long dipshit and see if you can dig up something else to plagiarize.


Hey ******** if I lived in a trailer I would deal with it, which I don't and most laugh in your face daily which they do. For the 100th time you are not a draftnik watching highlights does not make you a draftnik.
 
"J.K. Dobbins has not worked out. He said he was nursing an injury at the combine, but that was a long time ago and missed Ohio State's pro day. Is he that slow of a healer, or is he trying to hide lack of speed? A jack of many trades types, Dobbins doesn't seem to be great at anything. Would I take him in round two? It depends on who is on the board. Probably not. The lack of a full workout has cooled my interests in D.K Dobbins."

I guess you could say he "missed" Ohio State's pro day ... I mean since it was postponed/cancelled. But, you write this as if he just didn't attend a pro day that tOSU held. When in fact, tOSU, has not held a pro day this year due to the Covid-19 social distancing concerns. I'm just saying, Dobbins couldn't attend a pro day that wasn't held. Oh, and Google is your friend:

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2020/03/112754/ohio-state-postpones-pro-day-due-to-coronavirus-outbreak
 
Also, I have to note that if you had just said something like "Dobbins was injured at the Combine and we don't have 40 times, etc. due to the cancelling of Ohio State's pro day", you would have sounded/been more credible. However, by choosing to misstate facts, you flush credibility down the drain because either: 1) you knew tOSU hadn't held a pro day and you chose to write what your wrote or, 2) You didn't even realize that tOSU didn't hold a pro day because of the virus and ignorantly wrote what you wrote in order to support your claim (Much worse because it says you're too lazy to actually google information that is readily available).
All that said, if either Taylor or Dobbins is available I would love the pick. If both are available, yeah, I'm going to be a homer and a fan and say "J.K. All Day"!!
 
Also, I have to note that if you had just said something like "Dobbins was injured at the Combine and we don't have 40 times, etc. due to the cancelling of Ohio State's pro day", you would have sounded/been more credible. However, by choosing to misstate facts, you flush credibility down the drain because either: 1) you knew tOSU hadn't held a pro day and you chose to write what your wrote or, 2) You didn't even realize that tOSU didn't hold a pro day because of the virus and ignorantly wrote what you wrote in order to support your claim (Much worse because it says you're too lazy to actually google information that is readily available).
All that said, if either Taylor or Dobbins is available I would love the pick. If both are available, yeah, I'm going to be a homer and a fan and say "J.K. All Day"!!

It is that he is is in fact lazy. Which is why he loves him some youtube highlights the lazy eval. He is a joke and always will be.
 
Coach finally make a decent post and then completely ***** it up by lying again about the TJ Watt pimping. Hahaha the first one here, right.
 
He did like TJ Watt, but so did half the board. And you were far from the first person to say so Coach. But I agreed with the Watt Pick and he was my choice as well back then.
 
Coach, I'm sorry to break this to you but you were NOT the first to pimp TJ WATT. Hell before you were pimping slash told me about him and I did some footwork and the more I saw the more I liked the kid. Even I pimped before you did due to slash's information. My story is the same as 1/2 the board as we all got it from slash and NOT you.

I am continuously on this board usually three different times a day and believe me I see a lot of things and who says what & when. I don't care what you think of my credibility but I do know slash's knowledge / perspective / humbleness / personalbility / honesty / others including CREDIBILITY far far far far blow your's away.

Coach, there is hope for you as you could GAIN respect and credibility if you would JUST admit to being wrong once in awhile or try something new and each time you are wrong, just admit it and move one. HELL I'd respect you a LOT more even if you were wron 70% of time. Integrity isn't a bad thing.





Salute the nation
 
I'm stating who I want. Its Taylor. DUH. At this point with the draft so close, it's not going to change. Maybe if Dobbins works out like Superman...which I doubt he will. I'm endorsing Taylor and even said he's worth a trade up for. End of.


If you remember, I was the first here to endorse TJ Watt for our #1 pick. Home run. I also said Burns and J Jones would suck. Remember? On Burns I said, give me the down trade offer then. I wanted Howard and Simmons, two DB's who made the pro bowl.


So there, three pro bowl players I would have taken, the Steelers only took one and had two colossal busts


I laugh in your face. We both know your incapable of coming up with a post like this on your own. No, go back to your trailer, and cross your fingers I'm not right about Edmunds being the first-round disappointment too.

you were not even close to being 1st on Watt...

as for Burns, you were against the pick but then during his first season you made posts supporting the pick and then when he lost his confidence, you were against him again.

we all laugh at you because you are a jackass who admits to not watching games and glean your information from highlights and the stat sheet....as if that is all that makes a player
 
years ago i would want no part of Taylor due to all the carries he had, but the game has changed. RB is the 1 position i would now be drafting under the assumption they will not be signed to a second contract.

Look at what happened with Bell. They did try to sign him and offered a pretty good contract but not the insanity he demanded. I would not have given Gurley that huge contract or Zeke either. It's just too much money.

You can do this with RB because it's probably the easiest position to transition. In other words, you can just draft one when you need one and plug them in immediately. TE and WR can take years to develop and the scheme matters. Sure, some WRs contribute early but not most of them. The ones who do contribute as rookies are usually doing so in a limited role.

That's why i don't give a **** how many carries Taylor had in college. I don't expect him to see a second contract anyway.
 
years ago i would want no part of Taylor due to all the carries he had, but the game has changed. RB is the 1 position i would now be drafting under the assumption they will not be signed to a second contract.

Look at what happened with Bell. They did try to sign him and offered a pretty good contract but not the insanity he demanded. I would not have given Gurley that huge contract or Zeke either. It's just too much money.

You can do this with RB because it's probably the easiest position to transition. In other words, you can just draft one when you need one and plug them in immediately. TE and WR can take years to develop and the scheme matters. Sure, some WRs contribute early but not most of them. The ones who do contribute as rookies are usually doing so in a limited role.

That's why i don't give a **** how many carries Taylor had in college. I don't expect him to see a second contract anyway.

There is a lot to like about Taylor, cooch's love affair with his 40 aside. We could have worse picks. The thing is is his high percentage of fumbles. **** a few Steelers fans lose their **** over JuJu's infrequent fumbles, imagine if you have a faster fumble prone Conner. You just replace the often injured with an often fumbles.

I just prefer he get picked early so that a certain Ohio state or LSU RB is available. Then we have less concerns in that area. Especially with CEH. Who I don't pimp enough but he is !B to Dobbins 1A unless a attractive G is there and that makes me a happy camper as well.
 
After reviewing the running backs, I picked the one who I think would be best for the Steelers.


How I formulate this ( which is an interest for some ) is as follows


1 ) Based on what I've seen in games
2 ) Based on the highlight clips on the web
3 ) Historical data on stats, level, and level of competition played
4 ) Combine and campus workouts.


I now believe Jonathan Taylor is the best back for the Steelers in round two. If we are talking round three, Cam Akers, but I don't think he will last until our comp pick in round three.


There has been plenty of commentary on the rambling banana land of Coach speak, so no need to repeat it. However, this “formula” Coach speaks of....interesting.

Based on what he’s seen in games. How many “games” has Coach watched for Taylor, Dobbins, Akers, CED or even Darrington? Over/Under pretty easy to guess based on his next criteria.

Highlight clips from the web. Next to 40 times, Coach’s primary measuring stick. These “clips” are pretty much useless in any evaluator’s summation of a player. Clips are edited, with mostly duplicated screenshots of gameplay. True evaluators and scouts review game tape, preferably All 22 game tape, which all schools have, and allows review of the entire play. Did the player make the correct read, block the right man, hit the right gap, run the right route, see the protection...and hundreds of other minutiae that coaches look at as fundamentals in a player’s performance.

Historical data (stats) is fine but how you use them makes them useless as you frequently cherry pick stat categories and do not elaborate on the summaries of statistical analysis. For instance what is your summary of “level of competition “? How does your formula encapsulate the differences in conferences with/without conference championships?

Combine, and campus workouts. Yes, your record of idiocy is well documented with these tools. Tell us this, how do you evaluate between a player who performs at the combine than one who doesn’t? Short answer, you can’t. You can only evaluate the one who does perform. Plain and simple. You can’t compare when there is only one set of data. Statistics 101. Then again, you have been known to make up you own findings.

How can you postulate a formula that uses campus workouts, when none were performed? Why even list it? Most, if not all colleges cancelled their Pro days due to COVID-19. Was this listed to show validation in your opinion? If so, it actually devalued it because most here on this board knows there weren’t any Pro days...hence you can’t factor in what Taylor or Dobbins, Akers, CED or Darrington would have shown had they.

So to recap:

* Games watched - all speculation with no validation of said evaluation.
* YouTube clips/web - entertainment value is high, evaluation method is low (useless).
* Statistics - cherry picking data to fit an opinion rather than using all relevant data in proving a hypothesis.
* Combine/Pro days - workouts in shorts, not practice. Raw data without assessment. Pro days? There weren’t any so why even mention it as a part of your formula?

So basically...you like Taylor. Fine. But as to why he is first on your list? Please spare us your attempt at trying to be like TMC as a player evaluator. Because you are as close to him as a ant is to a human.

Oh before you reply, the one time you say you predicted better than TMC (Rivers) doesn’t make up for the many dozens of times he showed your ignorance for all to see.




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