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The Chargers blew the game by dropping 2-3 interceptions. But the 18 second lost screwed them. Not that a comeback with that little time is likely.
18 seconds run off clock
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The Chargers blew the game by dropping 2-3 interceptions. But the 18 second lost screwed them. Not that a comeback with that little time is likely.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...there-was-clock-error-at-end-of-chargers-game
The Steelers scored the game-winning touchdown as time expired on Monday night against the Chargers. The NFL acknowledged Tuesday that game officials failed to correct a significant clock error that preceded Pittsburgh's final march.
NFL spokesman Michael Signora delivered an explanation from the league to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport. The statement, in full:
"With 2:56 remaining in the fourth quarter, San Diego kicked off to Pittsburgh. The kick resulted in a touchback. By rule, the game clock does not start if the receiving team possesses the ball in the end zone and does not carry it into the field of play.
Every game, all season
"Because of an error by the clock operator, the game clock was incorrectly started before the Steelers' first play from scrimmage following the touchback. That first down snap came with 2:38 left to play instead of 2:56, a difference of 18 seconds.
"The official game time is kept on the stadium scoreboard, but it is the responsibility of the side judge to supervise the timing of the game. Had the side judge or any of the other six on-field officials noticed the timing error, they could have corrected it.
"The game clock is not subject to instant replay review unless there is a timing issue on the last play of the first half or the last play of the game. The performance of the clock operator and game officials will be reviewed per the standard procedure for reviewing every play of every game."
NFL clock operators are hired by the league and usually have college football officiating experience. Clock operators typically live in close geographic proximity to the stadium where they are working, though the league uses operators from outside the region of the home team's stadium during the postseason.
The Steelers, and specifically Le'Veon Bell, saved the NFL from a splitting headache by inching past the goal line on the game's final play. Don't be surprised if the circumstances of Monday night come up when the league's competition committee reconvenes in a few months.
The Steelers scored the game-winning touchdown as time expired on Monday night against the Chargers. The NFL acknowledged Tuesday that game officials failed to correct a significant clock error that preceded Pittsburgh's final march.
NFL spokesman Michael Signora delivered an explanation from the league to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport. The statement, in full:
"With 2:56 remaining in the fourth quarter, San Diego kicked off to Pittsburgh. The kick resulted in a touchback. By rule, the game clock does not start if the receiving team possesses the ball in the end zone and does not carry it into the field of play.
Every game, all season
"Because of an error by the clock operator, the game clock was incorrectly started before the Steelers' first play from scrimmage following the touchback. That first down snap came with 2:38 left to play instead of 2:56, a difference of 18 seconds.
"The official game time is kept on the stadium scoreboard, but it is the responsibility of the side judge to supervise the timing of the game. Had the side judge or any of the other six on-field officials noticed the timing error, they could have corrected it.
"The game clock is not subject to instant replay review unless there is a timing issue on the last play of the first half or the last play of the game. The performance of the clock operator and game officials will be reviewed per the standard procedure for reviewing every play of every game."
NFL clock operators are hired by the league and usually have college football officiating experience. Clock operators typically live in close geographic proximity to the stadium where they are working, though the league uses operators from outside the region of the home team's stadium during the postseason.
The Steelers, and specifically Le'Veon Bell, saved the NFL from a splitting headache by inching past the goal line on the game's final play. Don't be surprised if the circumstances of Monday night come up when the league's competition committee reconvenes in a few months.
That was the chick ref. She had a quick whistle all night.....
And I'm sorry, the coaching staff has to see the time running off the clock no matter who is "responsible" for it running. Proves Tomlin never looks at the clock after it hits 2:00 minutes.
you could easily fly guys in from well outside the area to operate that gameclock with little problem... this could be fixed for a very reasonable cost and its been a grating issue for me for years. Fans of the team shouldnt be allowed to officiate it in any way
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That officiating crew should be reprimanded by the league but we all know they won't. These were a lot of inconsistency on the field by these officials. Who watches the clock, because six officials on the field and the clock supervisor all missed this. Then to hear can not be reviewed, what a league we watch.
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After Monday night’s game, Steelers head coach Mike
Tomlin said that he wasn’t aware of the clock error.
On Tuesday, he was again asked to address the clock
situation and specifically if anyone on his staff is
assigned to keep tabs on things such as that.
“We got a lot of things going on just terms of
managing our responsibilities,” said Tomlin. “We
proceed with the assumption that the clock is going to
be managed properly. And I’m not going to comment
too much on that. I know that the league is going to
have a statement regarding that, or at least I assume
they’re going to have a statement regarding that. It
didn’t define the outcome of the game, so I’m moving
on with my work week.”
Tomlin was then asked if the team will make plans to
make sure that nothing like that ever happens again
in the future without them being aware of it.
“We’re not going to run around chasing ghosts and
working at doing other people’s jobs,” said Tomlin.
“There’s a myriad of jobs that go on in a stadium to
make a game go and we’re going to assume that
people are going to be competent and do their job.
I’m not going to check to make sure that concessions
need help in concessions. I’m not going to check that
the clock guy’s managing the clock. Those are their
jobs. Our job is to focus on the management of our
plan and our people and play and win the game. So
that’s where I’m going to keep my focus.”
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Tomlin.....that's not my Jerb!!......
You know.....I thought last night was a great coaching effort by Tomlin and the staff but this answer in regards to the management of the clock is so unsatisfactory that it gives creedence to those who say that Tomlin exhibits poor in game management skills.
I'm glad Tomlin is not concerned about the popcorn vendor running out of hot butter but the fact that he equates that with the operation of the official game clock is completely indefensible, profoundly embarrassing, and I cannot believe that someone who preaches accountability actually said it.
It most definitely warrants a visit from the Two Bobs.
After Monday night’s game, Steelers head coach Mike
Tomlin said that he wasn’t aware of the clock error.
On Tuesday, he was again asked to address the clock
situation and specifically if anyone on his staff is
assigned to keep tabs on things such as that.
“We got a lot of things going on just terms of
managing our responsibilities,” said Tomlin. “We
proceed with the assumption that the clock is going to
be managed properly. And I’m not going to comment
too much on that. I know that the league is going to
have a statement regarding that, or at least I assume
they’re going to have a statement regarding that. It
didn’t define the outcome of the game, so I’m moving
on with my work week.”
Tomlin was then asked if the team will make plans to
make sure that nothing like that ever happens again
in the future without them being aware of it.
“We’re not going to run around chasing ghosts and
working at doing other people’s jobs,” said Tomlin.
“There’s a myriad of jobs that go on in a stadium to
make a game go and we’re going to assume that
people are going to be competent and do their job.
I’m not going to check to make sure that concessions
need help in concessions. I’m not going to check that
the clock guy’s managing the clock. Those are their
jobs. Our job is to focus on the management of our
plan and our people and play and win the game. So
that’s where I’m going to keep my focus.”
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Tomlin.....that's not my Jerb!!......
You know.....I thought last night was a great coaching effort by Tomlin and the staff but this answer in regards to the management of the clock is so unsatisfactory that it gives creedence to those who say that Tomlin exhibits poor in game management skills.
I'm glad Tomlin is not concerned about the popcorn vendor running out of hot butter but the fact that he equates that with the operation of the official game clock is completely indefensible, profoundly embarrassing, and I cannot believe that someone who preaches accountability actually said it.
It most definitely warrants a visit from the Two Bobs.
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I'm fine with Tomlin's answer, though someone should be hired to help with situational football, as they happen. Having someone count defenders each an every play (this is a reviewable call and can be utilized if a negative play occurs during a too many men situation). Having someone reviewing a game feed in real time with video editing controls, to slow down and view plays and give the coach a time advantage to call a replay. Having someone who understands the time management aspect of games to help QBs execute in crunch time and provide real time options to leave enough time to score in all situations. Having a guy run statistical numbers at EOG to make sure all of the aspects needed to kill the clock with no possibility of the other team getting the football.
For a billion dollar enterprise, this position should be mandatory for each and every team in the league. NE does it. Though I'd also look into who their game day clock operator is as well...
For a billion dollar enterprise, this position should be mandatory for each and every team in the league. NE does it. Though I'd also look into who their game day clock operator is as well...
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The concession stand awareness clause in his contract does not kick in until there are only three hot dogs available for sale in the stadium, which pretty much never happens. The awareness of what's going on with the game clock clause does not kick in until at least 19 seconds have accidentally run off the clock, which also never seems to happen.
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Wait Tomlin compared proper clock operation to concessions? I get that it just adds one more thing for someone to worry about, but shouldn't most coaches be keenly aware of the clock situation at all times? I'm not necessarily horrified at his answer because it doesn't surprise me. All the clock snafus he's had in his career make sense if his attitude is that the clock situation is similar to concessions. Even if he's talking purely about the operation of the clock, the fact that he can be THAT disengaged from the discussion tells me he hasn't fully grasped the power of proper clock management (and monitoring)
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The woman ref is the one that stopped Bell's forward progress as she blew the whistle too soon. Hell of a price to pay for being stylish...
Which actually makes the whole issue a red herring as far as Tomlin and the coaching staff are concerned. Even if they had raised the issue ... it's not reviewable. Even if they have someone on staff watching the clock ... it's not reviewable. So, why waste the time having someone watch something that you really won't have any control over? Begs the question though ... "Why is the game clock not reviewable?"
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Good grief. I completely understand Tomlin's answer about the clock. I would not piss and moan in front of the camera either. NOW... how I deal with it behind closed doors is another matter.
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Good grief. I completely understand Tomlin's answer about the clock. I would not piss and moan in front of the camera either. NOW... how I deal with it behind closed doors is another matter.
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18 more seconds. To me that would be 18 more seconds for Tomlin to find a way to snatch defeat from the clutches of victory.
And yet .. they won. Amazing
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But the side judge can still fix errors, as one did for Harbaugh in the game against the Rats. I've gotta believe if somebody from the Steelers said, "Hey, there was just a kickoff, why is the clock running?" that the side judge would have believed there was an error. At least I would hope. But then again, this is Roger's Thunderdome, so who knows.
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You are better than this.
Surely you know that the coaches (should they be paying attention at the time) can call it to the attention of the official, who can then confer with the side judge, who keeps official time on the field, it is completely correctable on the field, as it happens, as long as someone is paying attention, and it does not require replay.
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That is my problem with his whole answer. He doesn't get that. He goes to great lengths, invoking concession stands, to avoid the obvious need.
You know by now that sometimes I just like to play devil's advocate to see what kind of lunacy occurs.
Assuming the clock is being operated properly is foolish. There are lots of times during NFL games where clock errors happen, including this very game, when it occurred twice in the the last three minutes. There should have been 8-9 seconds left for the last play. I understand that Bell got in, and it "didn't define the outcome of the game," but had Bell been stopped a foot shorter, time would have been left to call that last timeout and tie the game. That's kind of important, no matter how yesterday's score ended up.
Tomlin's answer does verify how little clock management plays into his in-game decision making, which is unfortunate but not surprising.
I think now that the clock not stopping after Heath's catch could have been the more damming screw up. The fact the Tomlin assumes this is handled correctly is mindblowing. No doubt the scoreclock operator was corrupt and/or a homer.
I'll I can invision is one of the Harbough's throwing a tatrum is this happened to them. Ya - they look like morons, but I bet they put time back on clock. Just sayin.
I'll I can invision is one of the Harbough's throwing a tatrum is this happened to them. Ya - they look like morons, but I bet they put time back on clock. Just sayin.
Starkey on 93.7 was killing me this morning.
"Rest assured, this week the Rooney's WILL drag in some cousin like Fredo, yeah Fredo Rooney, and tell him it's his job to watch the clock."
I was driving to work and about blew coffee out my nose.
"Rest assured, this week the Rooney's WILL drag in some cousin like Fredo, yeah Fredo Rooney, and tell him it's his job to watch the clock."
I was driving to work and about blew coffee out my nose.
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The axe falleth
NFL suspends side judge over clock mistake
The official who failed to correct a clock mistake late in Monday night’s Steelers-Chargers game has been disciplined by the league.
Side judge Rob Vernatchi has been suspended for one week with pay
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/
NFL suspends side judge over clock mistake
The official who failed to correct a clock mistake late in Monday night’s Steelers-Chargers game has been disciplined by the league.
Side judge Rob Vernatchi has been suspended for one week with pay
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/
Axe? More like a very light feather. One week suspension .... WITH pay.