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Steelers set to sign CFL OLB Lemon

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Hopefully he turns out to be the next Wake.
 
When the world gives you lemons....
 
Give the steelers credit as they reconize one of their weeknesses. Sign him and hope for
"Lemon" .... AID !!!!!!!





Salute the nation
 
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Also curious to see where Howard Jones is in his development. May take a while, but the kid may evolve into something... Like most of these young guys coming in - needs to add strength and girth, first and foremost.
 
Lemon seems to be worth the shot, given how desperate they are for OLB talent.

It's hard to tell what this means for Worilds, though I'm not sure I can see them going into next season with nothing but Lemon, Jarvis and 2nd or 3rd round pick at the position.
 
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Hell these players can be brought in next to nothing. You try him out, if he medically clears... good competition for camp.


CFL has made some decent pro players, let us not leave one stone unturned.
 
Punxsutawney said:
Lemon seems to be worth the shot, given how desperate they are for OLB talent.

It's hard to tell what this means for Worilds, though I'm not sure I can see them going into next season with nothing but Lemon, Jarvis and 2nd or 3rd round pick at the position.
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No need to wait until the 2nd or 3rd for a pass rusher - MOVE UP AND GET ONE in the 1st!!!
 
If they find a gem with one or both of these guys, NFL teams will be raiding CFL rosters like crazy next year.
 
bermudasteel said:
No need to wait until the 2nd or 3rd for a pass rusher - MOVE UP AND GET ONE in the 1st!!!
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With all the holes this defense has, and the need for a 2nd string RB and possibly a TE, packaging picks to move up in the first isn't the way they should go. Just my opinion.
 
SteelBuckeye said:
With all the holes this defense has, and the need for a 2nd string RB and possibly a TE, packaging picks to move up in the first isn't the way they should go. Just my opinion.
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at times sure.... Perhaps not this draft as it seems like a bunch of close value talent early. Just have to rely on Colbert to bring in some impact players.

Hopefully staying away from the undersized, can't get off blocks types. But yes a lot is needed similar to last year.

Difference is this year I can realistically see the Steelers with a higher amount to spend once cuts/extensions/increase in cap/ takes place.

No reason the main needs can not get accomplished in free agency IMO............
 
slashsteel said:
at times sure.... Perhaps not this draft as it seems like a bunch of close value talent early. Just have to rely on Colbert to bring in some impact players.

Hopefully staying away from the undersized, can't get off blocks types. But yes a lot is needed similar to last year.

Difference is this year I can realistically see the Steelers with a higher amount to spend once cuts/extensions/increase in cap/ takes place.

No reason the main needs can not get accomplished in free agency IMO............
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I understand your reasoning. But, let me counter with this. We don't need only starters. We need good, quality, depth to develop for the future. To me it makes more sense to keep the draft picks this year and acquire some of that depth. Picking at 1:22, the amount of picks we'd have to give up to get one of the better pass rushers in the draft would be counterproductive. I agree that we fill in some spots through FA, and I like the "no stone unturned" approach they are taking with looking at these CFL guys. If they hit, great. Still doesn't alleviate the need to draft for depth (and possibly major contributors) on defense.

Personally, I think they got away from the approach that got them to being such a good defense. Draft the replacement while the starter is still playing well. If at some point the replacement is playing as well or better than the starter, release the starter and keep the younger, cheaper player.
 
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SteelBuckeye said:
I understand your reasoning. But, let me counter with this. We don't need only starters. We need good, quality, depth to develop for the future. To me it makes more sense to keep the draft picks this year and acquire some of that depth. Picking at 1:22, the amount of picks we'd have to give up to get one of the better pass rushers in the draft would be counterproductive. I agree that we fill in some spots through FA, and I like the "no stone unturned" approach they are taking with looking at these CFL guys. If they hit, great. Still doesn't alleviate the need to draft for depth (and possibly major contributors) on defense.

Personally, I think they got away from the approach that got them to being such a good defense. Draft the replacement while the starter is still playing well. If at some point the replacement is playing as well or better than the starter, release the starter and keep the younger, cheaper player.
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Please give some examples where they altered from their approach please....just curious.
 
stillwright said:
Please give some examples where they altered from their approach please....just curious.
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SS - Troy was obviously on the decline before they drafted Shamarko. Our backups to the backups (developmental guys) were an undrafted Golden and (?)
FS - Not having a developmental guy behind Clark is why we had to sign Mitchell. Again, an undrafted Golden and (?)
NT - McLendon has done a good job, but he was an undrafted FA, not like they invested in "the heir" to Casey. Although McCullers looks like he has potential, he was a late round pick-up drafted what 2 years after Casey was gone?
OLB - They knew Carter was crap and didn't do anything to find Harrison's replacement or Woodley's if you believe they wanted Worild's on the right. At least not until they drafted J.Jones. By which time they had already made plans to release Harrison.
DE - Ziggy hood sucked and they knew it. They also knew that Keisel was coming to the end of his career. So drafting Heyward was a good thing. But, where was the DE that they could develop that was not a practice squad guy?
CB - If you let Keenan walk, you need to have a replacement on the roster. Even if you believe Allen is that guy, failing to draft a credible CB for the other side meant we were relying on an old Ike to man one side of the field. As things worked out .... well you saw that.

* As I look over that list, I see that in many cases it wasn't that they didn't "TRY" to draft a developmental replacement, it's just that the guys they drafted sucked. Maybe it's because many of them were drafted in mid to late rounds.
 
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SteelBuckeye said:
SS - Troy was obviously on the decline before they drafted Shamarko. Our backups to the backups (developmental guys) were an undrafted Golden and (?)
FS - Not having a developmental guy behind Clark is why we had to sign Mitchell. Again, an undrafted Golden and (?)
NT - McLendon has done a good job, but he was an undrafted FA, not like they invested in "the heir" to Casey. Although McCullers looks like he has potential, he was a late round pick-up drafted what 2 years after Casey was gone?
OLB - They knew Carter was crap and didn't do anything to find Harrison's replacement or Woodley's if you believe they wanted Worild's on the right. At least not until they drafted J.Jones. By which time they had already made plans to release Harrison.
DE - Ziggy hood sucked and they knew it. They also knew that Keisel was coming to the end of his career. So drafting Heyward was a good thing. But, where was the DE that they could develop that was not a practice squad guy?
CB - If you let Keenan walk, you need to have a replacement on the roster. Even if you believe Allen is that guy, failing to draft a credible CB for the other side meant we were relying on an old Ike to man one side of the field. As things worked out .... well you saw that.

* As I look over that list, I see that in many cases it wasn't that they didn't "TRY" to draft a developmental replacement, it's just that the guys they drafted sucked. Maybe it's because many of them were drafted in mid to late rounds.
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Yep...Kind of what my point was.
 
Worlids based on market value is at probebly 6 mill, he easily would of had 10 sacks had lebeau used him properly which is more blitizing then coverage and not lining him up asa mlb in the nickel.

take it or leave it 4 years 22 million 5.5 million SB, if he wants more you move to Orakpo
 
F83 said:
Worlids based on market value is at probebly 6 mill, he easily would of had 10 sacks had lebeau used him properly which is more blitizing then coverage and not lining him up asa mlb in the nickel.

take it or leave it 4 years 22 million 5.5 million SB, if he wants more you move to Orakpo
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yep....easily...OK
 
F83 said:
Worlids based on market value is at probebly 6 mill, he easily would of had 10 sacks had lebeau used him properly which is more blitizing then coverage and not lining him up asa mlb in the nickel.
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He beat a tackle once all season for a sack.
 
Worilds can walk, obviously, unless the money is correct. Give him 4-5yr incentive loaded contract. 4.5 to 5.5 mill year. KEEP looking for replacement / depth.



Salute the nation
 
SteelBuckeye said:
I understand your reasoning. But, let me counter with this. We don't need only starters. We need good, quality, depth to develop for the future. To me it makes more sense to keep the draft picks this year and acquire some of that depth. Picking at 1:22, the amount of picks we'd have to give up to get one of the better pass rushers in the draft would be counterproductive. I agree that we fill in some spots through FA, and I like the "no stone unturned" approach they are taking with looking at these CFL guys. If they hit, great. Still doesn't alleviate the need to draft for depth (and possibly major contributors) on defense.

Personally, I think they got away from the approach that got them to being such a good defense. Draft the replacement while the starter is still playing well. If at some point the replacement is playing as well or better than the starter, release the starter and keep the younger, cheaper player.
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And here is my rebuttal...

For the past decade or so (I'd say since Ben was picked) we've had a hard time getting "blue chippers". That happens when you have a winning team - you pick later in the draft and we haven't picked well, for the most part, in the tail end of the first half.

I'd rather find FIVE ABOVE AVERAGE players in the draft and fill the depth wholes via free agency. But, again, I don't get paid to make decisions - this is just my opinion.
 
SteelBuckeye said:
SS - Troy was obviously on the decline before they drafted Shamarko. Our backups to the backups (developmental guys) were an undrafted Golden and (?)
FS - Not having a developmental guy behind Clark is why we had to sign Mitchell. Again, an undrafted Golden and (?)
NT - McLendon has done a good job, but he was an undrafted FA, not like they invested in "the heir" to Casey. Although McCullers looks like he has potential, he was a late round pick-up drafted what 2 years after Casey was gone?
OLB - They knew Carter was crap and didn't do anything to find Harrison's replacement or Woodley's if you believe they wanted Worild's on the right. At least not until they drafted J.Jones. By which time they had already made plans to release Harrison.
DE - Ziggy hood sucked and they knew it. They also knew that Keisel was coming to the end of his career. So drafting Heyward was a good thing. But, where was the DE that they could develop that was not a practice squad guy?
CB - If you let Keenan walk, you need to have a replacement on the roster. Even if you believe Allen is that guy, failing to draft a credible CB for the other side meant we were relying on an old Ike to man one side of the field. As things worked out .... well you saw that.

* As I look over that list, I see that in many cases it wasn't that they didn't "TRY" to draft a developmental replacement, it's just that the guys they drafted sucked. Maybe it's because many of them were drafted in mid to late rounds.
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See, we're on the same page;)
 
F83 said:
Worlids based on market value is at probebly 6 mill, he easily would of had 10 sacks had lebeau used him properly which is more blitizing then coverage and not lining him up asa mlb in the nickel.

take it or leave it 4 years 22 million 5.5 million SB, if he wants more you move to Orakpo
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This is super funny - while I think it could be somewhat true - but, hilarious nonetheless...
 
F83 said:
Worlids based on market value is at probebly 6 mill, he easily would of had 10 sacks had lebeau used him properly which is more blitizing then coverage and not lining him up asa mlb in the nickel.

take it or leave it 4 years 22 million 5.5 million SB, if he wants more you move to Orakpo
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I expect he will get offered more than 6m.
 
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