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Covid Vaccine

IT WAS THAT DAMNED 2%! 🤞

- FloggedHardandOften
 
Can someone remind me of England's ridiculously high vaccination rate? Oh, right.

 
Can someone remind me of England's ridiculously high vaccination rate? Oh, right.


"It's just those damn anti-vaxxers and their lying propaganda now!"

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- FloggedtoDeath
 
So did anyone comment on Facebook admitting in their liable lawsuit against them that fact checker site are only perspective driven opinions not actually accurate facts, thus protected by the first amendment.

Just a reality check for everyone who relies on them as basis for arguments… they are subjectively spun to fit agendas, not honest to goodness fact reporting, and we have one company that utilizes them admitting as much
 
Want to loop back and revisit opinions & takes on the board from early on.

- the Chinese unleashed Covid to hurt Trump's chances at reelection
Why is Covid still wreaking havoc more than a year after the election?

- Covid will "go away" once Biden takes office, ie the media overstated the dangers of the pandemic to hurt Trump
If this was the case, why is Covid still wreaking havoc a year into the Biden presidency?

- Covid is *just the flu*
Why are so many folks suffering and dying from something as innocuous as the common flu?

- Trump was a genius and great leader for pushing vaccinations out as quickly as he did.
Why the staunch anti-vaxx sentiment on the right, now in 2021? These are the same vaccinations the Trump admin fast-tracked and rolled out in 2020. Moderna, Pfizer, JJ.

- Those downplaying the virus echoed Trump's claim that Covid will *go away* like magic.
Here we are, December 2021, has Covid gone away like magic, as Trump claimed? Was he lying? Was he simply wrong?

How can these sentiments all be true concurrently? The virus was unleashed by the Chinese to hurt Trump, the media overstated the virus to hurt Trump, the virus isn't as dangerous as it's made out to be, the virus has claimed the lives of over 800k in the States and 5.3M worldwide, Covid is still here and spreading at the end of 2021, a year into Biden's term?
 
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Want to loop back and revisit opinions & takes on the board from early on.

- the Chinese unleashed Covid to hurt Trump's chances at reelection
Why is Covid still wreaking havoc more than a year after the election?



How can these sentiments all be true concurrently? The virus was unleashed by the Chinese to hurt Trump, the media overstated the virus to hurt Trump, the virus isn't as dangerous as it's made out to be, the virus has claimed the lives of over 800k in the States and 5.3M worldwide, Covid is still here and spreading at the end of 2021, a year into Biden's term?
I'll just take the first one, as I felt then and feel now that the rest of those statements were and are nonsense, whoever made them.

The Chinese, without a doubt, unleashed COVID. You can argue as to why and how, but there is no doubt in my mind it came from a Chinese Lab. The idea that some chick ate bat soup and got sick and spread this **** the world over is ridiculous on it's face, given that there is at least some evidence that the NIH funded gain of function research on this very disease. Personally, I'd like to think this was an accident, but in this day and age who knows? If you want my honest opinion, I don't think our own government gives two ***** about any of us beyond the fact that we can be manipulated into paying taxes, voting for them or protesting and wreaking havoc on their behalf, so why would the Chinese care, especially when for some strange reason, the world is completely reluctant to hold them accountable?

That's my take, agree or not. As I've said 100 times, it hardly matters so much anymore how we got here. Fact is, we're here and it is up to us as individuals to take the necessary precautions to preserve our own health. If you feel the "vaccine," masking and social distancing is the way to go, have at it. If you don't, great. Either way, you accept the risks involved with your decisions.
 
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Clearly he's one of the many cases of utterly healthy athletes who have taken the vaccines and ended up with severe vaccine injuries (or death).

We've only posted a hundred stories. Of course, you've ignored them.

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Clearly? Did he or his doctors attribute it to the vaccine? If not, why do you? IDEOLOGY. To you, the TENS OF THOUSANDS of atheletes that got the vaccine and didn’t develop heart problems are the coincidences. Again, irrational IDEOLOGY.

Did the Covid vaccine travel back in time and kill athletes like Pete Maravich, Reggie White and Reggie Lewis? Did the Covid vaccine travel back in time and influence this 2016 study?


Maybe he had Covid and that led to his heart problem?

 
Why is every single study showing natural immunity is the best protection you can have? Weird...that.

Read
The
Article
Floggy


You might learn something.

How did the vaccines fail Israel? I don't know, umm.....

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Waning Immunity of NATURAL and HYBRID IMMUNITY. In other words WANING OF PROTECTION OF PEOPLE THAT HAD COVID and MIGHT also be vaccinated.

I’ll wait for the authors to reach the same conclusions Berenson reached. Telling that you only care about Berenson’s biased interpretations.
 
Want to loop back and revisit opinions & takes on the board from early on.

- the Chinese unleashed Covid to hurt Trump's chances at reelection
Why is Covid still wreaking havoc more than a year after the election?

- Covid will "go away" once Biden takes office, ie the media overstated the dangers of the pandemic to hurt Trump
If this was the case, why is Covid still wreaking havoc a year into the Biden presidency?

- Covid is *just the flu*
Why are so many folks suffering and dying from something as innocuous as the common flu?

- Trump was a genius and great leader for pushing vaccinations out as quickly as he did?
Why the staunch anti-vaxx sentiment on the right, now in 2021? These are the same vaccinations the Trump admin fast-tracked and rolled out in 2020. Moderna, Pfizer, JJ.

- Those downplaying the virus echoed Trump's claim that Covid will *go away* like magic.
Here we are, December 2021, has Covid gone away like magic, as Trump claimed? Was he lying? Was he simply wrong?

How can these sentiments all be true concurrently? The virus was unleashed by the Chinese to hurt Trump, the media overstated the virus to hurt Trump, the virus isn't as dangerous as it's made out to be, the virus has claimed the lives of over 800k in the States and 5.3M worldwide, Covid is still here and spreading at the end of 2021, a year into Biden's term?
I’m waiting for this conspiracy theory to take off, likely around November 9, 2022.

 
Maybe he had Covid and that led to his heart problem?

Or maybe he's one of the rising, huge list of athletes this year who've suffered heart related issues from the vaccines.

You don't know, nor do I. But it sure is coincidental.

I encourage you to look up ideology again Floggy, and find uses of it in context.
 
Floggy's gonna **** his damned pants.

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The U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) announced this weekend that 80 percent of COVID-19 “Omicron variant” cases are found in so-called “fully vaccinated” individuals. Forty-seven percent of Omicron cases – which are far milder than original COVID-19 cases – are found in those who received the first round of vaccinations, and with 33 percent of cases found in people with both vaccination and booster shots.

Only 19 percent of cases were identified in unvaccinated individuals.

In a surveillance report released in the first week of December, the CDC described 43 cases of Omicron in the United States. No deaths and no hospitalizations have been linked to the variant. Symptoms are mild in both the unvaccinated and vaccinated.

Cases were reported in 22 states. Fifty-eight percent of those testing positive were between the ages of 18-39. People under the age of 18 and over the age of 65 accounted for nine percent of cases.

Omicron was initially identified by the World Health Organization (WHO) in Botswana. Though the first case was only found on November 24th, and no cases were recorded in the U.S. until December 1st, the Biden Administration suspended entry to the U.S. for noncitizens on November 26th.

Two days later, on November 28th, the CDC expanded their “voluntary” airport-based genomic surveillance program in Atlanta, New York City, Newark, and San Francisco.

The official CDC measures to “slow domestic spread of the Omicron variant” include contact tracing, case investigation, and “ensur[ing] compliance with isolation and quarantine guidance.”

Despite a majority of cases being identified in individuals who have received the COVID-19 vaccination and boosters, the CDC does not discuss the link between the vaccine and Omicron nor has it discussed any plans to investigate these links.

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Meanwhile, research from Public Health Ontario and University of Toronto are pushing for a longer time period between vaccines in order to reduce rates of myocarditis and pericarditis. Their research findings identified that myocarditis and pericarditis rates are higher for individuals with a shorter inter-dose interval.

The highest rates (38.1 percent) were found in males aged 18-24 who received Moderna’s mRNA-1273 vaccine as the second dose. Therefore, the researchers argued that all individuals should have to wait for a longer time between each COVID-19 vaccination in order to reduce the associated risks only now being identified in scientific research.


As there are no difference in the symptomology of vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals experiencing Omicron, and all reported symptoms are mild, the CDC and the Biden regime’s severe response to this new “variant” of COVID-19 has repeatedly been called out by medical researchers, the media, and others as “anti-African” and illogical.

In the UK, the Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee published an article noting that the push for vaccine passports throughout the country lack the scientific rigor and evidence for implementation, given what is known of the spread of COVID-19 and its variants.

Analysis by Public Health England (PHE) found that vaccines are unlikely to stop the spread of the virus. The committee’s post further referenced minutes from a SAGE (the government’s scientific advisory panel), where members warned that there is “limited vaccine effect against onward transmission.”

Committee Chair William Wragg said: “We have often heard throughout the pandemic that the Government will follow the science, but when afforded the opportunity to provide it on Covid passports, it has failed to do so. All we have is a flimsy claim that there is a public health case, but without any foundation for the claim to stand on.”
https://thenationalpulse.com/news/p...ss-europe-as-amidst-forced-vaccination-plans/
Wragg goes on to describe how vaccinated individuals are just as likely to carry the virus as unvaccinated individuals, there is no scientific evidence behind Boris Johnson’s push for vaccine passports as a means of controlling or mitigating the pandemic.

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Only fully vaccinated people were allowed to travel abroad. Right the **** over your head.
 
Or maybe he's one of the rising, huge list of athletes this year who've suffered heart related issues from the vaccines.

You don't know, nor do I. But it sure is coincidental.

I encourage you to look up ideology again Floggy, and find uses of it in context.
Sure.

When you baselessly infer that an athlete’s heart condition was CLEARLY the result of a vaccine that he MIGHT have received many months prior… it might be IDEOLOGY.
 
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The Covid vaccines don’t work… for the unvaccinated…



 
Waning Immunity of NATURAL and HYBRID IMMUNITY. In other words WANING OF PROTECTION OF PEOPLE THAT HAD COVID and MIGHT also be vaccinated.

Good Lord....did you read the article??? Let me repost some portions of the article you clearly didn't read.

In fact, people who had already had Covid once had better protection from the virus more than a year later than people who had been vaccinated only three months before.

The gap was even larger in cases of severe infection.

Vaccinated people were more than five times as likely to develop severe infections than people with natural immunity. Only 25 out of roughly 300,000 Israelis with natural immunity developed severe Covid infections in the summer wave - compared to almost 1,400 vaccinated Israelis.

The study also showed that giving people who had natural immunity a vaccine dose did little to lower rates of infection for them, raising the question of why they should ever be vaccinated.


I’ll wait for the authors to reach the same conclusions Berenson reached. Telling that you only care about Berenson’s biased interpretations.

Berenson didn't reach conclusions you free-loading, welching, tard. He presented a STUDY. Once again, you didn't read the article. Or the study. The POPULATIONS they studied are in red below.


BACKGROUND Infection with SARS-CoV-2 provides substantial natural immunity against reinfection. Recent studies have shown strong waning of the immunity provided by the BNT162b2 vaccine. The time course of natural and hybrid immunity is unknown.

Data on confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infections were extracted from the Israeli Ministry of Health database for the period August to September 2021 regarding all persons previously infected OR vaccinated.

RESULTS
Confirmed infection rates increased according to time elapsed since the last immunity-conferring event in all cohorts.
  • For unvaccinated previously infected individuals they increased from 10.5 per 100,000 risk-days for those previously infected 4-6 months ago to 30.2 for those previously infected over a year ago.
  • For individuals receiving a single dose following prior infection they increased from 3.7 per 100,000 person days among those vaccinated in the past two months to 11.6 for those vaccinated over 6 months ago.
  • For vaccinated previously uninfected individuals the rate per 100,000 person days increased from 21.1 for persons vaccinated within the first two months to 88.9 for those vaccinated more than 6 months ago.


What is your particular proclivity to be such a science denier? You now believe natural immunity is like UFOs. Non-existent.

THAT is pretty scary ****. Do you still believe that earth revolves around the sun? Or.....
 
Only fully vaccinated people were allowed to travel abroad. Right the **** over your head.

Yeah, try again.

Omicron made it to Australia. Their borders are....closed.

None of which changes the fact that in England, most cases are among the vaxed. Here, most cases are among the vaxed. The vaxed are the super spreaders.

The Pandemic of the Vaccinated.

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Sure.

When you baselessly infer that an athlete’s heart condition was CLEARLY the result of a vaccine that he MIGHT have received many months prior… it might be IDEOLOGY.

That word you don't understand really bothers you.

You have a habit of...lack of wit. No originality. Supe calls you a boot licker, you will surely call him one in return in one of your return posts.

What is ideology is a higher order giving you information (that has clearly been proven wrong time and again) that you simply "believe" without question or thought. They say it, you believe it. Period. It's religious. Despite mountains of scientific evidence about these vaccines harming human beings at rates higher than any vaccines in history, you deny...because of ideological belief. Worship of and trust in your overlords.

Free your mind and think for yourself instead of being an NPC bot.

As time passes, as the % of athletes falling on the pitch hurdles beyond levels before unseen, we owe it to mankind to figure out why.

And mankind deserves better vaccines shots than these. These suck.
 
Want to loop back and revisit opinions & takes on the board from early on.

- the Chinese unleashed Covid to hurt Trump's chances at reelection

Nobody expressed that opinion. You use the oily, greasy Alinsky tactic of mixing in truth ("The Chinese are responsible for the virus and it probably came from a lab") with bullshit ("and did so to hurt Trump") to make the fact less believable or advance the bullshit.

Lie #1.

- Covid will "go away" once Biden takes office, ie the media overstated the dangers of the pandemic to hurt Trump
If this was the case, why is Covid still wreaking havoc a year into the Biden presidency?

Again, a lie. The argument during the summer of 2020 was that once the election was over, the hysteria and lockdowns would die down and Sloppy Joe would be named a hero.

Sure enough, guess what happened in late 2020 and early 2021? Lockdowns ended, schools re-opened and King Fartbag praised for his brilliant handling of the Chinese flu. However, when it became clear that the two idiots in charge were as popular as anal warts, the lockdown panic returned.

Coincidence, I'm sure. Nothing to do with the same fraudulent voting policies used to great effect in 2020, nope, not at all, no siree!!

Lie #2.

- Covid is *just the flu*
Why are so many folks suffering and dying from something as innocuous as the common flu?

Covid is in fact a lab-generated flu, with a very similar mortality rate (0.5% of the exposed population). The reasons it has become so much more deadly are two-fold.

First, because it was developed in a lab and specifically engineered to make it more contagious, it is vastly more contagious than a natural virus. That was the whole goddamn point behind the gain-of-function research - to make it more contagious to humans.

Second, natural flus have been around for millenia, and the vast majority of the population have built up natural immunity to a massive variety of flus, providing protection against those strains and to some extent even the new strains, just like the Chinese flu vaccine provides benefits in the form of lowered symptoms and reduced mortality against a new strain.

Lie #3.

- Trump was a genius and great leader for pushing vaccinations out as quickly as he did?
Why the staunch anti-vaxx sentiment on the right, now in 2021? These are the same vaccinations the Trump admin fast-tracked and rolled out in 2020. Moderna, Pfizer, JJ.

Idiot, the issue is not the vaccine alone. Never has been. The issues are (1) the utter refusal of government to recognize natural immunity, and (2) the demand - compulsion - to take the damn vaccines or face dire consequences.

Lie #4.

- Those downplaying the virus echoed Trump's claim that Covid will *go away* like magic.
Here we are, December 2021, has Covid gone away like magic, as Trump claimed? Was he lying? Was he simply wrong?

Actually the Chinese flu diminishes in warmer weather. Compare February, 2021 to June, 2021 for crying out loud.

Second, the endless hysteria and fear are the product of several things. First and foremost, the braying news cycle pushes something to drive headlines and get viewers. Twitter and Fakebook and cable news ingest news immediately and disgorge **** non-stop to get viewers and make money. Covid is a money-maker if it is KILLING PEOPLE, AHHHH!! Not so much if it's the flu, bro.

Second, the hyperattention to the Chinese flu means that every bad thing from the Chinese flu becomes A NEW DISASTER, AHHHH!! Deaths from car accidents, cancer, shooting? COVID DEATHS!!

Third, if people make money from anything - human trafficking, drugs, and your favorite, gay porn - then people will do that thing. The government is paying trillions of dollars for Covid, from treatments, to hospitalizations, to deaths.

And you think nobody pushes the thing that is making them rich? Yeah, sure.

How can these sentiments all be true concurrently?

Learn to read. Stop being a bleating sheep bootlicker and stop drinking toilet water - venture out. Live your life. Stop for one full day being a delusional moron hellbent on imposing your will on others, i.e., a liberal.
 
Nobody expressed that opinion. You use the oily, greasy Alinsky tactic of mixing in truth ("The Chinese are responsible for the virus and it probably came from a lab") with bullshit ("and did so to hurt Trump") to make the fact less believable or advance the bullshit.

Lie #1.



Again, a lie. The argument during the summer of 2020 was that once the election was over, the hysteria and lockdowns would die down and Sloppy Joe would be named a hero.

Sure enough, guess what happened in late 2020 and early 2021? Lockdowns ended, schools re-opened and King Fartbag praised for his brilliant handling of the Chinese flu. However, when it became clear that the two idiots in charge were as popular as anal warts, the lockdown panic returned.

Coincidence, I'm sure. Nothing to do with the same fraudulent voting policies used to great effect in 2020, nope, not at all, no siree!!

Lie #2.



Covid is in fact a lab-generated flu, with a very similar mortality rate (0.5% of the exposed population). The reasons it has become so much more deadly are two-fold.

First, because it was developed in a lab and specifically engineered to make it more contagious, it is vastly more contagious than a natural virus. That was the whole goddamn point behind the gain-of-function research - to make it more contagious to humans.

Second, natural flus have been around for millenia, and the vast majority of the population have built up natural immunity to a massive variety of flus, providing protection against those strains and to some extent even the new strains, just like the Chinese flu vaccine provides benefits in the form of lowered symptoms and reduced mortality against a new strain.

Lie #3.



Idiot, the issue is not the vaccine alone. Never has been. The issues are (1) the utter refusal of government to recognize natural immunity, and (2) the demand - compulsion - to take the damn vaccines or face dire consequences.

Lie #4.



Actually the Chinese flu diminishes in warmer weather. Compare February, 2021 to June, 2021 for crying out loud.

Second, the endless hysteria and fear are the product of several things. First and foremost, the braying news cycle pushes something to drive headlines and get viewers. Twitter and Fakebook and cable news ingest news immediately and disgorge **** non-stop to get viewers and make money. Covid is a money-maker if it is KILLING PEOPLE, AHHHH!! Not so much if it's the flu, bro.

Second, the hyperattention to the Chinese flu means that every bad thing from the Chinese flu becomes A NEW DISASTER, AHHHH!! Deaths from car accidents, cancer, shooting? COVID DEATHS!!

Third, if people make money from anything - human trafficking, drugs, and your favorite, gay porn - then people will do that thing. The government is paying trillions of dollars for Covid, from treatments, to hospitalizations, to deaths.

And you think nobody pushes the thing that is making them rich? Yeah, sure.



Learn to read. Stop being a bleating sheep bootlicker and stop drinking toilet water - venture out. Live your life. Stop for one full day being a delusional moron hellbent on imposing your will on others, i.e., a liberal.

Just.....daaaammmmnnnnnn. Damn.

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So did anyone comment on Facebook admitting in their liable lawsuit against them that fact checker site are only perspective driven opinions not actually accurate facts, thus protected by the first amendment.

Just a reality check for everyone who relies on them as basis for arguments… they are subjectively spun to fit agendas, not honest to goodness fact reporting, and we have one company that utilizes them admitting as much

Oh yes, I've shared this here and there and errywhere

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Translation: Facebook argued that their fact checks are opinions in a court of law.

Filed under **** You Can't Make Up
 
Good Lord....did you read the article??? Let me repost some portions of the article you clearly didn't read.

In fact, people who had already had Covid once had better protection from the virus more than a year later than people who had been vaccinated only three months before.

The gap was even larger in cases of severe infection.

Vaccinated people were more than five times as likely to develop severe infections than people with natural immunity. Only 25 out of roughly 300,000 Israelis with natural immunity developed severe Covid infections in the summer wave - compared to almost 1,400 vaccinated Israelis.

The study also showed that giving people who had natural immunity a vaccine dose did little to lower rates of infection for them, raising the question of why they should ever be vaccinated.




Berenson didn't reach conclusions you free-loading, welching, tard. He presented a STUDY. Once again, you didn't read the article. Or the study. The POPULATIONS they studied are in red below.


BACKGROUND Infection with SARS-CoV-2 provides substantial natural immunity against reinfection. Recent studies have shown strong waning of the immunity provided by the BNT162b2 vaccine. The time course of natural and hybrid immunity is unknown.

Data on confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infections were extracted from the Israeli Ministry of Health database for the period August to September 2021 regarding all persons previously infected OR vaccinated.

RESULTS
Confirmed infection rates increased according to time elapsed since the last immunity-conferring event in all cohorts.
  • For unvaccinated previously infected individuals they increased from 10.5 per 100,000 risk-days for those previously infected 4-6 months ago to 30.2 for those previously infected over a year ago.
  • For individuals receiving a single dose following prior infection they increased from 3.7 per 100,000 person days among those vaccinated in the past two months to 11.6 for those vaccinated over 6 months ago.
  • For vaccinated previously uninfected individuals the rate per 100,000 person days increased from 21.1 for persons vaccinated within the first two months to 88.9 for those vaccinated more than 6 months ago.


What is your particular proclivity to be such a science denier? You now believe natural immunity is like UFOs. Non-existent.

THAT is pretty scary ****. Do you still believe that earth revolves around the sun? Or.....
We’ve been through this. Nobody, NOBODY is advising people purposely acquire natural immunity and natural immunity varies considerably from person to person.
 
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