Covid Vaccine
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Once again you provide data that ultimately refutes your argument. Massachusetts is 67.3% vaccinated. If they’re 40% of the new cases, then they’re 3 times less likely to contract Covid.
You really suck at this.
I'm already a huge fan but next Floyd shirt I'm getting is "Mother, should I trust the government?"
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The question about vaccine effectiveness should have been answered by the prison testing that the biden administration had suggested then withdrew… it was a great plan… test everyone in a controlled environment at regular intervals… you can see when the vaccinated had it or not compared to the unvaccinated… it needed a natural immunity control added, but it was sound
I don’t know why they pulled the pitch… the cynic in me says they realized it was not working right and didn’t want to scare people…
it was a completely reasonable experiment that didn’t compromise personal liberties or endanger anyone
I don’t know why they pulled the pitch… the cynic in me says they realized it was not working right and didn’t want to scare people…
it was a completely reasonable experiment that didn’t compromise personal liberties or endanger anyone
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I guess all of those “breakthrough cases” aren’t happening then. Get the **** out of here with that **** man.Nope…
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Unvaccinated people account for 94% of the new coronavirus cases in Pennsylvania this year, state health officials say
Ninety-seven percent of deaths and 95% of hospitalizations were in the unvaccinated, state officials said. “The vaccine is continuing to do its job," said one.www.inquirer.com
Kudos to Confluence, Stewey, Indy and of course Pink Floyd:
We don't need no flu fear porn,
We don't need no screamin' alarm,
No dark berating by Sloppy Joe
All and all it's just another jab in the arm
Hey! Doctors! Leave those kids alone!
Xiden can't have any pudding if he doesn't beat his meat!
How can Xiden have any pudding if he doesn't beat his meat!?
We don't need no flu fear porn,
We don't need no screamin' alarm,
No dark berating by Sloppy Joe
All and all it's just another jab in the arm
Hey! Doctors! Leave those kids alone!
Xiden can't have any pudding if he doesn't beat his meat!
How can Xiden have any pudding if he doesn't beat his meat!?
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Wrong. First, you are ******* horrible at math. I have already proven that. Let me do so again.
Vaccinated outnumber the unvaccinated 2 to 1. 67% to 33%. Get it?
Second, if the ratio of new cases, i.e., those actually tested because they are symptomatic and hospitalized, showed no protection by the vaccine, then we would expect the vaccinated to outnumber the unvaccinated in the new case count by 2-1. Get it?
That means if the vaccine provides no protection at all from symptoms and people test just as frequently when vaccinated as unvaccinated, we would expect 67% of new cases to be the vaccinated. Instead, that number - people symptomatic enough to be hospitalized and/or tested - is 40%. Get it so far? I know, I know, math is hard.
So the difference is 27% since 67% - 40% = 27%. Get it?
27% is 40% of 67% (27/67). Get it?
Therefore, the actual data show the unvaccinated are 40% less likely to be so symptomatic they need hospitalization and testing. 40% less likely. Forty. FOUR-TEE. Get it?
Finally, 40% < 300%. You get that right? In fact, you were off by a factor of 7.5 (40 x 7.5 = 300), or by 750%. I know, I know, math is hard.
Second, the vaccinated are not three times more likely to get the Chinese flu even under your hypothesis and instead are THREE TIMES AS LIKELY TO NEED HOSPITALIZATION WHEN THEY GET THE CHINESE FLU.
Get it? I have explained this twice previously, and noted that the vaccine does a good job at lowering symptoms but unfortunately does not stop contraction of and spread of the Delta variant. Just tell the truth - you'd get a lot more positive feedback.
FTFY
Post 5041 and 5042.
Daily education right there
Daily education right there
At no point were we discussing "likelihood" of contracting COVID. At no...single...point.
You posted an article claiming that ONLY 6% of PA's cases are breakthrough. Therefore...we are discussing breakthrough cases.
Other states are showing that breakthrough cases are far higher than in PA. 40% is astronomically higher than 6%. Which is significantly higher than the 1% we were TOLD was going to be the breakthrough case percentage.
There are no magic walls around the borders of states that would lead to one state having vastly differing numbers than others. I.e., you will see similar (though not identical) case rates and infection rates and death rates across the nation, by and large, with some variance in regions. A difference of 40% and 6% isn't a variance. It's a massive gap and someone's lying. That would be PA massaging numbers including the first quarter of the year.
A rebuttal of Allison Beam:
Breakthrough deaths and hospitalizations jump in Pennsylvania
Breakthrough deaths see 87 count jump since July’s end; but official “cumulative” analysis hides it.
hbg100.com
^^^Huh, exactly what I've been saying....the cumulative analysis hides it.
But, now the numbers from the field, so-to-speak, are beginning to tell a different story, if you can obtain the numbers, that is. According to a Right-to-Know Request (which I filed on July 26, 2021), breakthroughs deaths have made quite a jump since July.
In early September, DOH reported (to me) that Breakthrough Deaths – thru July – totaled 126 deaths (see Table, titled “Release.xlsx); now, contrast that with the number that Beam cited: 213 Breakthrough deaths, suggesting there were 87 more breakthrough deaths since August!
Beam shared the selective data at a press conference on Sept. 14 at Lancaster General Hospital.
Hospitalizations appear to be rising as well, considering that DOH reported to me, a total of 586 through the end of July; as opposed to the 1820 that Beam cited at the press conference. Beam also added that the data was not complete, but only from 55 percent of all hospitals!
Please, for the love of God, be intelligent and creative enough to come up with your own lines.
Why are we surprised he steals lines and claims them as his own? He thinks the Plagiarist-in-Chief, Sloppy Joe, is worth voting for.
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Ha! No dipshit. You and everyone that liked your post are mathematically challenged.
If the vaccinated are 67.3% of the population, then the unvaccinated are 32.7%. If the vaccinated are 40% of the new cases, the unvaccinated are 60%. So .4/.673 = .59 and .6/.327 = 1.83. 1.83/.59 = 3.09 times less likely.
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Yes, we were discussing likelihood of contracting (spreading) Covid as DB1970 claimed it was the vaccinated who were spreading it. You have ADD.At no point were we discussing "likelihood" of contracting COVID. At no...single...point.
You posted an article claiming that ONLY 6% of PA's cases are breakthrough. Therefore...we are discussing breakthrough cases.
Other states are showing that breakthrough cases are far higher than in PA. 40% is astronomically higher than 6%. Which is significantly higher than the 1% we were TOLD was going to be the breakthrough case percentage.
There are no magic walls around the borders of states that would lead to one state having vastly differing numbers than others. I.e., you will see similar (though not identical) case rates and infection rates and death rates across the nation, by and large, with some variance in regions. A difference of 40% and 6% isn't a variance. It's a massive gap and someone's lying. That would be PA massaging numbers including the first quarter of the year.
A rebuttal of Allison Beam:
Breakthrough deaths and hospitalizations jump in Pennsylvania
Breakthrough deaths see 87 count jump since July’s end; but official “cumulative” analysis hides it.
View attachment 6508
^^^Huh, exactly what I've been saying....the cumulative analysis hides it.
But, now the numbers from the field, so-to-speak, are beginning to tell a different story, if you can obtain the numbers, that is. According to a Right-to-Know Request (which I filed on July 26, 2021), breakthroughs deaths have made quite a jump since July.
In early September, DOH reported (to me) that Breakthrough Deaths – thru July – totaled 126 deaths (see Table, titled “Release.xlsx); now, contrast that with the number that Beam cited: 213 Breakthrough deaths, suggesting there were 87 more breakthrough deaths since August!
Beam shared the selective data at a press conference on Sept. 14 at Lancaster General Hospital.
Hospitalizations appear to be rising as well, considering that DOH reported to me, a total of 586 through the end of July; as opposed to the 1820 that Beam cited at the press conference. Beam also added that the data was not complete, but only from 55 percent of all hospitals!
Please, for the love of God, be intelligent and creative enough to come up with your own lines.
Uh, no. When you multiply 40% by 67%, you are getting a nothing number. What does 40% of 67% show? Nothing. Likewise, when you multiply 60% by 33%, you again get a nothing number that has nothing to do with the ratio.
What you are doing is using the lower percentage as a multiplier to decrease the fictitious number for the vaccinated. Look at it this way.
If 48% of new cases are vaccinated and 52% of the total population is vaccinated, then your analysis would be:
.52 vaccinated x .48 new cases - 0.2496 (25%)
.48 unvaccinated x .52 new cases = 0.2496 (25%).
So it would make no difference at all vaccinated or unvaccinated, when in fact we know it makes a slight difference in my example. Specifically, the correct analysis is what I noted:
We expect the new cases to be 48% unvaccinated (100% - 52% vaccinated = 48%).
48% of the new cases are unvaccinated. That tracks.
Get it? I know, I know, math is hard.
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Floggy has returned to Media Matters, where he got the phony, erroneous numbers, looking for an explanation as to why his incorrect analysis is correct.
Floggy: Consistently wrong, always dumb, never useful, forever freeloading.
Am I DBS? Nope.
But let's go there, after the beat down I laid on you with data showing my arguments were right - PAs numbers were bullshit.
Are you now claiming the vaccinated don't spread Covid?
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You poor, tormented fools are so utterly lost in the minutiae of numbers, graphs, fractions and percentages you've become entirely numb to the 676,000+ of your fellow Americans who have perished in this pandemic.
You simply don't care. You've become so callous, cynical and nihilistic, you'll argue until you're blue in the face how right you are. Yet you completely miss the big picture, the reality of what has happened and continues to happen all around you.
Never seen so many cold-hearted ************* in one place than here on this board. So many dark souls. It's sad and even a bit surprising. Though it shouldn't be. This is the slippery slope many of you have been on for years. It makes sense to see how far you've fallen, individually and collectively.
You simply don't care. You've become so callous, cynical and nihilistic, you'll argue until you're blue in the face how right you are. Yet you completely miss the big picture, the reality of what has happened and continues to happen all around you.
Never seen so many cold-hearted ************* in one place than here on this board. So many dark souls. It's sad and even a bit surprising. Though it shouldn't be. This is the slippery slope many of you have been on for years. It makes sense to see how far you've fallen, individually and collectively.
Thanks for proving that as cases drop in LA, MO, FL, GA, TX, MS...where Delta first hit....the virus is moving north and northeast, spreading as I...said...it...would.
And btw, I don't believe any of this "hospitals" are at capacity bullshit after your Rolling Stone hit piece, after your slanted bullshit data about Florida hospitals (when it was only 24 out 325, 7% affected.
The media is driving fear porn. Again.