Covid Vaccine

[hamster]

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19... : American Journal of Therapeutics

mortality, in secondary outcomes, and in chemoprophylaxis, among people with, or at high risk of, COVID-19 infection. Data sources: We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021. Two review authors sifted for studies, extracted data, and assessed risk of bias. Meta-analyses were...

journals.lww.com

Conclusions:​

Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

 

[madinsomniac]

Weird how anti-abortionist pro life folks are now the ones promoting choice, and being blamed for always being wrong.
Perhaps, ******** Floggy, your dimwitted worldview only allows you to see what your handlers spoon feed you.


from the link:
LifeSiteNews' Twitter accounts have been temporarily suspended at least four times since 2018; once in error, twice for violating rules against "targeted misgendering or deadnaming of transgender individuals", and once for violating rules against spreading COVID-19 misinformation.[8][25][26]

LifeSiteNews' YouTube channel was banned in February 2021 for persistently promoting COVID-19 misinformation. One video claimed that COVID-19 was "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public". Another promoted anti-vaccine sentiment, cast doubt on the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines, and stated that COVID-19 "isn’t really killing people right and left that weren’t probably gonna die within the year anyway". These claims contradicted the scientific consensus and reports from authorities like the World Health Organization, and violated YouTube policies on promotion of health misinformation.[27]

LifeSiteNews was permanently banned from Facebook in May 2021 for violations of policies prohibiting COVID-19 misinformation.[11][28] According to LifeSiteNews, Facebook said the ban was related to their policy of removing anti-vaccination accounts, and a Facebook spokesperson allegedly accused LifeSiteNews of disseminating "false information about COVID-19 that could contribute to physical harm".[11] A joint statement signed by Media Matters for America, GLAAD, the Human Rights Campaign, and NARAL Pro-Choice America said they had collected and reported to Facebook over 100 posts by LifeSiteNews that allegedly spread COVID-19 and vaccine-related misinformation. They added that they believed Facebook should have banned the group "years ago" for using the platform to "push its noxious anti-LGBTQ and anti-choice extremism".[29][30][31]

Censorship is officially here… lets burn books tonight… closed minded bigotry is the best way to win a debate… you know best… the other side has no right to object…

 

[Confluence]

That’s the difference between you and heroes like Jonas Salk.

Dumb ********.

"Salk was immediately hailed as a "miracle worker" when the vaccine's success was first made public in April 1955, and chose to not patent the vaccine or seek any profit from it in order to maximize its global distribution."

Seven years of work to find a vaccine that worked, then the guy gives it away because it bettered the world for all.
Not like the government funding of Pfizer, Moderna et al, or the profiteering they are now enjoying from coerced participation in a program that has not been tested.

 

[Badcat]

is there even data on whether people with immunity due to already having Covid can spread it?

Not that I've read, but I cough on everything I can in hopes of giving it to thousands of people to help build herd immunity with natural anti-bodies.

 

[Troglodyte]

And Tim’s head explodes…

FDA advisers endorse Pfizer booster shots for elderly and high-risk Americans

The panel had initially rejected by a majority vote over Pfizer's request for full approval of a booster.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[madinsomniac]

Dumb ********.

"Salk was immediately hailed as a "miracle worker" when the vaccine's success was first made public in April 1955, and chose to not patent the vaccine or seek any profit from it in order to maximize its global distribution."

Seven years of work to find a vaccine that worked, then the guy gives it away because it bettered the world for all.
Not like the government funding of Pfizer, Moderna et al, or the profiteering they are now enjoying from coerced participation in a program that has not been tested.

I mean there is over seven years of failed attempts at mrna treatment of other illnesses… they typically cant get past the long term clinical trials without being ineffective or having bad long term effect… but im certain this rushed clinical trial process is way better than those longer more rigid ones…

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

And Tim’s head explodes…

FDA advisers endorse Pfizer booster shots for elderly and high-risk Americans

The panel had initially rejected by a majority vote over Pfizer's request for full approval of a booster.

www.cbsnews.com

And again he doesn’t read. For whom does it and whom doesn’t it.

 

[madinsomniac]

And Tim’s head explodes…

FDA advisers endorse Pfizer booster shots for elderly and high-risk Americans

The panel had initially rejected by a majority vote over Pfizer's request for full approval of a booster.

www.cbsnews.com

They rejected it for anyone under 65…. And its criminally negligent for them to have only used 12 people 65 or older in the clinical trial tgey rushed for this then approve it for that age group

 

[Confluence]

I thought about this. Then I looked up U.S. birth/mortality rates and came to the conclusion that there is Defcon-1-level cause for concern regarding pending social entitlements (SS, Medicare). Consider these stats:
Mid-1980's: Births per woman: nearly 2. Births per 1000 women: 16. Deaths per 1000 people: 8.9
2019-2020: Births per woman: 1.8. Births per 1000 women: 12. Deaths per 1000 people: 8.7

So, fewer births + fewer deaths = more older people alive needing to collect SS & other benefits and fewer younger people in the workforce to pay into the system.

Could those pulling the levers be cognizant of this and - gasp! - orchestrate not only a viral pandemic to "de-populate" those entitled to the benefits, but somehow, someway fix another problem.... say, allow a large number of a certain demographic, say those from Latin American countries, who are more apt to have larger numbers of children.... then legalize them and give them SS#s and have new taxpayers pay into the system. To some this may all be super-loco-conspiracy theory... but the big picture is nearly always out of view for the world, who would rather only see the world and its workings using tunnel vision. What's that saying... truth is stranger than fiction.

So, the two biggest healthcare issues in China are cardiovascular issues and diabetes. This Wuhan Flu seems like it targets fat, old, sick people. Shocking right?
I read that the average expected lifespan of the AVERAGE Covid "victim" was only 7 months. Most people use up half their entire reliance on the health system during the last 6 months of their life, so it looks like the Chinese made a virus to save their healthcare system.

 

[Steelworth]

That’s the difference between you and heroes like Jonas Salk.

Give it a break already, keyboard Rambo. You act like you're an expert on everything and nobody else knows what you know. My co-worker and friend at Caltech had worked for the Salk Institute in San Diego CA for a decade prior to that, was a huge fan of his and we (likely) all know about Jonas Salk. Have you ever been to the Geisel Library at UCSD dedicated to the man and his personal papers and work, since you're such an expert on Jonas Salk?

You're a ******* keyboard warrior, a freeloading troll - and you likely know dick about Jonas Salk except for what you've read online. His commitments to vaccines were for polio (something that affects the central nervous system and is much more detrimental to the health of someone) & later HIV and through the traditional method (killed-virus, inactivated vaccine) & through proper clinical phase trial channels. He'd likely look at the politicization of these totalitarian mandates and then tell you to go **** yourself.

You injecting him into a discussion about this is a disgrace - but par for the course.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

So innovation is never to be trusted? Where would we be without it.

So you support projects like the Tuskegee Project, testing vaccines and medicines on the mentally ill, or mandating testing on entire populations because "innovation?" - that's your position?

 

[madinsomniac]

So, the two biggest healthcare issues in China are cardiovascular issues and diabetes. This Wuhan Flu seems like it targets fat, old, sick people. Shocking right?
I read that the average expected lifespan of the AVERAGE Covid "victim" was only 7 months. Most people use up half their entire reliance on the health system during the last 6 months of their life, so it looks like the Chinese made a virus to save their healthcare system.

This was one of the earliest conspiracy theories about the illness… way back in January 2020…

i still lean to it being a true escape… the virus is absolutely man made but it mirrors stuff they do to test vaccines for more dangerous viruses… import the protein element and do animal testing on it… i still don’t think it was intentionally released… definitely man made though… some parts are from genetically constructed viruses from Canada that don’t exist in the wild… and thats all from similar vaccine testing iirc…

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I don’t have access to the PPG’s data.

Yet without reading/understanding it, you share it, not aware that the source contradicts itself.

I gave a reason why you can’t compare Allegheny County hospitals to Pennsylvania hospitals in general.

No, you offered that as THE reason the # of breakthrough cases were as high as 40% in Allegheny County and different than the state totals. ******* comical, because the one is not remotely tied to the other.

Take it up with the PPG. Here’s your shot to prove you know what’s what with Covid and the vaccine and all the Doctors and Health Officials are wrong, or expose the deep state or whatever.

That would be as pointless as taking it up with you.

I can't wait to see your next post where you claim that the increase in vaccinated hospitalizations is due to rural farmworkers not masking up when harvesting crops or that Conservative's bills to require ID to vote have led to Delta spread.

Both equally as non-sensical as claiming rural patients being treated in Allegheny Hospitals made breakthrough cases increase 36%.

 

[madinsomniac]

So you support projects like the Tuskegee Project, testing vaccines and medicines on the mentally ill, or mandating testing on entire populations because "innovation?" - that's your position?

Its also fascist… and banned worldwide, but hey the left cannot be fascist.. right? Hitler was a nationalist… globalists cannot be evil tyrants that use catastrophic events to push their selfish agendas… because stuff and things or something like that…

 

[Steelworth]

Yeah I don't think with the way the Chinese panicked and locked down their own country in the manner they did that it was a deliberate release, but like so many have already mentioned, it was absolutely man made - with the help of funding from our own glorious government.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Another thing about reports of hospitals being nearly full or ICU being nearly full. That is NORMAL. Hospitals are built like stadiums. They are built to accomodate expected crowds. That’s why football stadiums are huge and baseball are smaller. Hospitals are supposed to be near capacity at all times and if they are not, guess what they do. They close down floors kind of like stadiums that put a tarp over large sections.

Same with ICU. It’s not like hospitals have 50 ICU beds. Most have probably less than 20. Also because there are generally multiple hospitals in and city of significant size. If they have 20 ICU beds and their numbers show rarely use more the 12 then guess what happens. They are probably going to convert 5 ICU rooms into some other use and just have 15.

What’s frustrating in this is the purposeful misleading info that is constantly being pushed, made worse by an incurious media. They are handed a report that hospitals are near capacity and they never ask the obvious question, is that normal? That’s because then you don’t have a story.

Image the breaking new. Your local station with a breaking report that your local hospital is at 90% capacity. OMG! There’s nearly now beds! Then the reporter asks the administrator what their capacity is normally and he says usually about 85%. Hmmmmmm. Now viewers are thinking things aren’t so bad then. Worse, they then start thinking, why did you waste my time and get me worried over nothing?

Bingo, this has been brought up countless times before by me and many here in the industry. Hospitals strive for 80-90% occupancy at all times and balance beds/staff to accommodate that #. Most, as you indicate, are at 80-85% BEFORE a Covid or some other wave hits.

The media wants you to believe that ICUs sit idle with the nurses playing solitaire, beds empty...until COVID.

Lies being told by the lying liars in the media...intentionally.

 

[Confluence]

I mean there is over seven years of failed attempts at mrna treatment of other illnesses… they typically cant get past the long term clinical trials without being ineffective or having bad long term effect… but im certain this rushed clinical trial process is way better than those longer more rigid ones…

MRNA techniques have been tried and failed by BioNTech or whatever for over 20 years.
My wife's first year biology texts, from the mid 90s, speak about MRNA being researched for decades already.....so you have 30-40 years of work and no actual public utility for MRNA.
Not just in the US, but globally, where standards might be a little lower.

Then the Covid and the solution is ...... the failed MRNA stuff, because it is quicker to load this type of shot. At the end of the day, this, and hundreds of Billions of dollars, was the only thing that FDA relied upon.
No pre-clinical studies completed,
No phase 1 clinical studies completed,
No phase 2 clinical studies completed.
No possible idea about the long term effects, unless the failed MRNA research from the past decades is included, and NONE of that passed.

But the money.....and the fear......and the money......and the fear.....and the MONEY.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

You injecting him into a discussion about this is a disgrace - but par for the course.

I see what you did there.

 

[Confluence]

Yeah I don't think with the way the Chinese panicked and locked down their own country in the manner they did that it was a deliberate release, but like so many have already mentioned, it was absolutely man made - with the help of funding from our own glorious government.

Duke University research, in China, with the Wuhan Institute was stopped in 2015, after the Obama Administration changed their mind. Why?

 

[Steelworth]

Spot on, Confluence. There's a good reason mRNA has been studied/tested for so long and never used in a vaccine until now. Quick load, panic mode - and most of all =

How absolutely unstable mRNA is and just how it has to be stored is just the tip of this iceberg. More like shitburger. (Edit: re: post #4917)

 

[Steelworth]

Duke University research, in China, with the Wuhan Institute was stopped in 2015, after the Obama Administration changed their mind. Why?

That I can not answer my friend. Who really knows at this point - except for the large players of course. We'll never know what really happened.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

And Tim’s head explodes…

FDA advisers endorse Pfizer booster shots for elderly and high-risk Americans

The panel had initially rejected by a majority vote over Pfizer's request for full approval of a booster.

www.cbsnews.com

Good Lord, not in the least, this article seals the debate for me. You really do utterly and comprehensively suck at this.

TSF: The vaccines wane in efficacy after 6 months; TSF likewise shares links of Pfizer's CEO saying on TV, our vaccine wanes after 6 months.

From the article:

A panel of outside experts for the Food and Drug Administration have unanimously recommended an emergency use authorization for a third dose of Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine for some Americans — people 65 and older or those at risk of serious disease — six months after completing their first dose.

Yep, exactly what I've been saying. Let's go on. Further from the article:

The panel initially rejected Pfizer's request for full approval of a booster but endorsed a second option laid out by FDA, which was more narrowly focused.

Translation: Pfizer, the inventor of the vax, the company sitting on the data, the company that has a mountain of data from Israel alone, the company who's CEO said his very own vaccine wanes after 6 months ASKED FOR full approval of boosters. Said...it's needed. The FDA said "not quite yet."

Further from the article:

However, broader decisions about the rollout should be left to others, FDA officials told the committee.

So they didn't say that boosters ARE NOT needed, they said they will approve it for the elderly and the high risk for now and are PASSING THE BUCK for the greater roll out to "others." Sounds just like the tiered distribution of vaccines in the beginning, does it not?? Elderly at risk first....then the rest of us.

Around 2 million people have already received an additional shot, according to the agency's data

And it's already happening.

Then this bombshell...the FDA invited and listened to Israel's advice, and essentially ignored it.

the FDA invited presentations from health experts in the United Kingdom and Israel, where authorities have already launched booster dose campaigns.

Israeli health experts defended their country's decision to move ahead earlier this year with third shots of Pfizer's vaccine across most of their population. They presented modeling that forecasted breakthrough hospitalizations would have exceeded the country's capacity if booster shots had not been deployed over the summer, warning that even small drops in vaccine effectiveness could translate to a "very large increase" in severe Delta variant cases.

Further from the article:

However, the CDC also published research Friday showing vaccine effectiveness against hospitalization had appeared to drop with Pfizer's vaccine in the months after vaccination, declining "significantly" from 91% to 77% among healthy adults.

GREAT FIND Floggy! LMAO

 

[Steelworth]

Good Lord, not in the least, this article seals the debate for me. You really do utterly and comprehensively suck at this.

GREAT FIND Floggy!

 

[jitter77]

Hospitals in my area are starting to fill up because nursing homes are unable to take admissions due to no staff. Once the vax is mandated its going to get real ugly

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19... : American Journal of Therapeutics

mortality, in secondary outcomes, and in chemoprophylaxis, among people with, or at high risk of, COVID-19 infection. Data sources: We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021. Two review authors sifted for studies, extracted data, and assessed risk of bias. Meta-analyses were...

journals.lww.com

Conclusions:​

Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

Heretic!!!! Burn Hamster at the Stake for such Heresy!!
Vaccines man not cheap treatments that are safe.