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The Coronavirus thread

Please do show me empirical evidence from anywhere that shows masking and lockdowns stemmed the growth and spread of COVID.

I'll point to all of the lockdown v non-lockdown states in the US to refute any of what you produce.

Quick answer: They didn't work.

As we all said though, vaccines would work. Voila!
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BTW, I'm sure you've seen the articles now. How's Michigan doing with those draconian lock downs? Pretty effective strategy, wouldn't you agree?
California is doing excellent. Their lockdown, mask-up methods have allowed them to lead the country in Total Cases, Total Deaths (edging out that other bastion of masked hope, New York), Active Cases

 
I would love to visit Hungary. Looks beautiful but, I wouldn't want to live there. I love being an American and living in the greatest country on Earth. You should take a trip out here, you'd love it.
Visited Budapest some years ago. Wonderful city. Americans were a novelty in Hungary back then with Hungary having pretty recently emerged from behind the iron curtain at the time. We had a great time, met some great people. I’d go back to see how much it’s changed.
 
Please do show me empirical evidence from anywhere that shows masking and lockdowns stemmed the growth and spread of COVID.

I'll point to all of the lockdown v non-lockdown states in the US to refute any of what you produce.

Quick answer: They didn't work.

As we all said though, vaccines would work.
Please do explain how such things could be studied empirically.
 
If the ideology worked, it would have worked universally. Hell, it didn't even work state by state in the US.
So what you’re saying is that mitigation failed in the country that didn’t have a universal strategy and left it up to the states. Agreed.
 
So what you’re saying is that mitigation failed in the country that didn’t have a universal strategy and left it up to the states. Agreed.

Silly Floggy. Of course that's not what I'm saying. The data is beginning to show more and more every day that those areas that DID NOT lock down fared equally to, if not in many cases, better than those that did lock down.

Our own states are evidence of that.

The more time goes by, the more data we see, the more that becomes plainly evident.

Lockdown/mask or not, COVID took its toll and those measures did nothing to prevent it. If anything, they elongated the pain we all went through.
 
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NEW YORK, NY—According to sources down by the docks at New York Harbor, a shady figure in a trenchcoat was seen selling fake vaccine passports in the early morning hours today.

"Hey, kid -- wanna buy a passport?" the man said as a boy riding home on his bicycle from a friend's house passed by. "I got real good stuff here, very convincing. You'll be able to go to any bar you want, I promise ya."

Oh yeah....and this.................

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i'll suggest that the lockdown order could have prevented some deaths - such as those in high risk groups.

those high risk groups have been pointed out for pages, but certain libs gloss right over those. those are the obese, elderly and people with underlying comorbidities such as lung cancer, lung disease, etc.

while this is not yet "over", we have a far better understanding of the KungFlu than we did when Pelosi was dancing in Chinatown. is the Rona deadly? of course. but that depends on the risk factors you take and your own personal hygiene.
 
but that depends on the risk factors you take and your own personal hygiene.

Soooooooooo you're saying Ark is at ridiculously high risk then?
 
Woah no way!!! No freaking way!


A comprehensive report from the World Obesity Federation has found that the highest COVID-19 death rates are seen in countries with the highest overweight populations. The report contains mortality data from Johns Hopkins University and the WHO Global Health Observatory data on obesity.

Taking data from over 160 countries, the report found "linear correlations between a country's COVID-19 mortality and the proportion of adults that are overweight."

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Woah no way!!! No freaking way!


A comprehensive report from the World Obesity Federation has found that the highest COVID-19 death rates are seen in countries with the highest overweight populations. The report contains mortality data from Johns Hopkins University and the WHO Global Health Observatory data on obesity.

Taking data from over 160 countries, the report found "linear correlations between a country's COVID-19 mortality and the proportion of adults that are overweight."

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And it gets tougher as you get older. I'm at 25.6 and it's a ***** getting it lower.
 
Silly Floggy. Of course that's not what I'm saying. The data is beginning to show more and more every day that those areas that DID NOT lock down fared equally to, if not in many cases, better than those that did lock down.

Our own states are evidence of that.

The more time goes by, the more data we see, the more that becomes plainly evident.

Lockdown/mask or not, COVID took its toll and those measures did nothing to prevent it. If anything, they elongated the pain we all went through.
We were scammed by those in power.
Sure, it’s deadly, but were the lockdowns necessary?
 
Got my Johnson & Johnson vaccine this morning. Very efficient. Never left my car. Held at the Delaware DMV line and had all the vaccines and nurses inside the carport where they do car inspections.

I showed up at 9:15 and left at 9:55 even after the recommended 15 minute wait (which they were not really enforcing). Had about 200+ people helping out of which half were volunteers and half were National Guard.

No side effects so far. Don't feel different at all.

I just don't see the big deal. You guys should all get it. Chances of something bad happening are just so low it's almost negligible.
 
For all you poor, tortured souls who think Biden just came along and picked up where Trump left off in the federal effort in fighting Covid. That everything's remained the same, that Trump was doing a bang up job on this and Biden just took the reins from him and is now reaping the benefits.

Answer me this, how is this not a form of genocide? These officials - including Trump - should all be behind bars.

 
What’s the scam? Democrats in the pocket of Big Mask, I suppose?
Mask, small business shut downs, a lot of people now are struggling and living paycheck to paycheck. I don’t understand how you liberals can just sit back and think staying home is saving lives.

I’m not saying the virus isn’t real, but there is a point like all viruses we go about decreasing spread. That’s as simple as staying home when sick, covering coughs/sneezes and washing hands and ensuring disinfectant to contaminated areas.


Severely shutting down all ways of society to where it’s felt in a financial aspect is not a way to go about things
 
What’s the scam? Democrats in the pocket of Big Mask, I suppose?
The fact that we knew last July or so that the Wuhan Virus was not any more deadly than the flu unless you have significant comorbidities and the DNC politicized the **** out of it. Destroying a whole bunch of small businesses and jobs for political gain is the scam.
 
So it's been 10 hours since my shot and now it hit me. I don't have a fever but it feels like I do. I'm cold and shivering. I have a headache and general aches all over. I'm pretty tired (I plan on going to bed very soon). Overall, nothing serious, but I want to be honest about what's happening to me, how long any side effects last, etc. I just took some advil and expect that to help.

Right now, on a scale of 1-10 (without advil), I feel about a 5 on the ****** scale. If I woke up feeling this way, I probably wouldn't go to work unless I was working on something very important or with a deadline (in which case, I would medicine up and just get through it). It kind of feels like that.

I will update everyone in the morning.
 
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