2021, the year the window slams shut

[SteelerFan448]

The NFL and NFLPA will have to do something to figure out the cap situation for next year. If it drops to $175 as was suggested this summer you'll have 13 teams already over the cap and there'll be a ton of guys cut around the league. On top of that there won't be much room to sign free agents either. I don't see that as a good option from either side. I've seen it suggested that the NFLPA wants the NFL to borrow cap increases from future years to at least maintain the cap at this year's value.

 

[madinsomniac]

Comments above.

As I said before the Steelers are minus

• 21,789,219) in cap space. OUCH. The cap might go down next season as well. We will likely need to cut need to cut some people, and can not win any bidding war in free agency. The best move might be to let the high priced guys go and take the comp picks in 2022.

Those numbers are misleading... that is assuming that the cap drops to the 175mil level the NFL spoke about previous to the season. They are reworking TV deals so that may or may not be final, and there is talk of spreading the cap hit over multiple years... so if the cap drops to 175 then yes they are there, however over 5 million dollars rolls over from this year, so the number drops to 15 million... if they extend ben a couple years out, they can reduce his cap hit by that amount in and of itself... several other reworks and a few cuts and they will have plenty of money to sign a roster...


lets look at it this way... every team will lose 23 million dollars of cap space next year, unless they ultimately spread that hit over four or five years... to put that into perspective, this year 27 of 32 teams would have had to cut players this season to get under that number... 23 of them would have had to trim OVER 10 million from the cap

or how about this... the cap is calculated using the top 51 up until the season, then the active 53 afterwards... here is the issues the nfl has with next year if they don't adjust things

1 just to get to 53 man rosters, there are 1696 roster spots that must be filled for the 32 teams... as of today there are 1192 under contract for next season, meaning 504 players must be signed by the 32 teams next year.... cap space right now sits at 448 million dollars though its not as bad as that sounds.... after cap rollovers its projected to be around 791 million dollars... that averages out to a million and a half per free agent, and that sounds doable... but here is the hitch....

the top 5 cap space teams have $463,118,959 of that cap space... for 66 spots... that 58% of the cap space for 13% of the roster space
That leaves 328,193,748 for 438 players on 27 teams... basically teams will cap adjust a ton, but that's going to be just to fill out a roster.. large long term contracts are going to be few and far between.... the Pats, Colts and Redskins will be able to hit UFA well, but the top two teams will be the Jets and Jags, and frankly those are going to be hard sells to the best talent after recent fiascos with their front office moves...

so yeah face value the cap situation sounds scary... but it isn't really that bad comparatively... the saints, on the other hand are ******... almost 100 million in the hole so much of their top talent will be moving on...

 

[slashsteel]

Look I've been here since Juice and Dave were running things. A long time, pre 2004.

The infamous " big head " comment came in Troy's rookie year. That was 2003. Boy you are DUMB. The choice to donate is yours. I gave it a try. Wasn't for me. If that bothers you, it's a small smile from me. Most posters here are " free loaders " First round picks who don't start are not good first round picks, But I'm not a homer like you are, so....

Please do play along during free agency saying it was a good move or not, and of course during the draft. I'd lay even odds that your about as bad as anyone here.

Please do keep posting!

A small smile from you for not contributing? It wasn't for you? If anyone on this board deserves a post limit it is you. It is bad enough you claim to be wealthy but then you turn around and brag about not contributing while eating up bandwidth like you are dining at a smorgasbord. Pray Ike, me, or a handful of other posters never get banning capabilities twatwaffle. What is even more of a mystery is how you still manage to have a supporter or two. They must be entertained by window lickers or feel sorry for you. As you know I don't fall into either category, I will cheer the day you are gone.

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[slashsteel]

I am on board with the thought it won't be as low as some think.

The NFL and NFLPA will have to do something to figure out the cap situation for next year. If it drops to $175 as was suggested this summer you'll have 13 teams already over the cap and there'll be a ton of guys cut around the league. On top of that there won't be much room to sign free agents either. I don't see that as a good option from either side. I've seen it suggested that the NFLPA wants the NFL to borrow cap increases from future years to at least maintain the cap at this year's value.

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[CoolieMan]

Look I've been here since Juice and Dave were running things. A long time, pre 2004.

The infamous " big head " comment came in Troy's rookie year. That was 2003. Boy you are DUMB. The choice to donate is yours. I gave it a try. Wasn't for me. If that bothers you, it's a small smile from me. Most posters here are " free loaders " First round picks who don't start are not good first round picks, But I'm not a homer like you are, so....

Please do play along during free agency saying it was a good move or not, and of course during the draft. I'd lay even odds that your about as bad as anyone here.

Please do keep posting!

So you sound like you are STILL beating the drum that Troy was not a good pick....******* idiotic. Ben wouldn't have started as a rookie if the tommy-gun hadn't gotten hurt

The Steelers are not bottom feeders, their #1 picks do not usually have to play immediately.

you posted negative stuff about the Burns pick, but when he flashed some talent you made posts praising him. No I am not going to go back and find them, but they were made. You should realize no one would give a **** about your misses, of which there are many, if you wouldn't ******* pat yourself on the back all the ******* time when you guess right about someone, usually after hedging your bets and saying some negative **** also...

you calling others here dumb is like me calling them fat.....or to clarify it for you it is like the pot calling the kettle black

or to make it painfully clear you are too ******* stupid to be calling anyone here dumb

 

[slashsteel]

Thing is there is many of player that take a year or two to come into their own. Many prospects have that third year tag as we can then get a feel for where they are at. Then you have the Bud Dupree raw prospects that take longer to develop. Just another in a long list of outcooched comments that helps cement the theory of cooch being the worst draftnik in the history of.[emoji28]

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[CoolieMan]

Thing is there is many of player that take a year or two to come into their own. Many prospects have that third year tag as we can then get a feel for where they are at. Then you have the Bud Dupree raw prospects that take longer to develop. Just another in a long list of outcooched comments that helps cement the theory of cooch being the worst draftnik in the history of.[emoji28]

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nope if your #1 pick doesn't start as a rookie, he is not a good draft pick.....Troy was a HOF player, one of the best to ever play his position in the NFL, but he didn't start as a rookie so obviously he was a bad choice.

 

[madinsomniac]

I am on board with the thought it won't be as low as some think.

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Yeah I kind of half posted my thought above, but basically the NFL and NFLPA was just looking to get this season going when they agreed to the 175 million cap for next year... its just not reasonable like this however... The jets and jags dont spend to the cap... they my overpay a couple players, but they arent going to dump over 100 million apiece for next year back into the player salary pools... Cinci, who is 6th on the list, will spend very little capital on a team that wont compete.... half the league will be restructuring contracts and cutting guys left and right trying to get flexibility just to field a roster... they wont be dumping long term expensive deals on ufas

You can see how the steelers will probably progress.... they will convert the long term big money deals like Heyward and Tuitt into guaranteed money and space them out, they will probably extend Ben and the CB's... they will cut one of the TEs and extend the other.... they will take a long hard look at Vince Williams and if he wont work with them, they probably give his slot to Spillane or Avery who will both come much cheaper. on the Oline its trickier... You'd want to do something with Decastro and Pouncey... Next season Pouncey will be 32, decastro 31.... high end centers often start dropping off in their mid 30's... high end guards closer to 32 or 33...but its common for them to reach 35-36...... that isnt a guarantee either will be done soon or that they will last that long, but its complicated whether to extend or cut them....

I mean if it stays this low I can see them reaching the numbers they need to sign a few of their non superstud ufas and fill out a roster comfortably... I think they can bring the secondary back and sign Alualu... I think Juju is destined to leave... I also think Dupree should stay and hit ufa the next year, but he will probably jump to the jets or jags for stupid money... he is the kind of flashy signing they would want....

But honestly I am more inclined to think the cap drop falls to closer to 5-10 million, not 23, and most of this is moot....

 

[Drink IRON City]

nope if your #1 pick doesn't start as a rookie, he is not a good draft pick.....Troy was a HOF player, one of the best to ever play his position in the NFL, but he didn't start as a rookie so obviously he was a bad choice.

It took a full year for Troy's body to catch up to his head size,........... That's why he didn't start right off the bat.





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[Ike Kelly]

Those numbers are misleading... that is assuming that the cap drops to the 175mil level the NFL spoke about previous to the season. They are reworking TV deals so that may or may not be final, and there is talk of spreading the cap hit over multiple years... so if the cap drops to 175 then yes they are there, however over 5 million dollars rolls over from this year, so the number drops to 15 million... if they extend ben a couple years out, they can reduce his cap hit by that amount in and of itself... several other reworks and a few cuts and they will have plenty of money to sign a roster...


lets look at it this way... every team will lose 23 million dollars of cap space next year, unless they ultimately spread that hit over four or five years... to put that into perspective, this year 27 of 32 teams would have had to cut players this season to get under that number... 23 of them would have had to trim OVER 10 million from the cap

or how about this... the cap is calculated using the top 51 up until the season, then the active 53 afterwards... here is the issues the nfl has with next year if they don't adjust things

1 just to get to 53 man rosters, there are 1696 roster spots that must be filled for the 32 teams... as of today there are 1192 under contract for next season, meaning 504 players must be signed by the 32 teams next year.... cap space right now sits at 448 million dollars though its not as bad as that sounds.... after cap rollovers its projected to be around 791 million dollars... that averages out to a million and a half per free agent, and that sounds doable... but here is the hitch....

the top 5 cap space teams have $463,118,959 of that cap space... for 66 spots... that 58% of the cap space for 13% of the roster space
That leaves 328,193,748 for 438 players on 27 teams... basically teams will cap adjust a ton, but that's going to be just to fill out a roster.. large long term contracts are going to be few and far between.... the Pats, Colts and Redskins will be able to hit UFA well, but the top two teams will be the Jets and Jags, and frankly those are going to be hard sells to the best talent after recent fiascos with their front office moves...

so yeah face value the cap situation sounds scary... but it isn't really that bad comparatively... the saints, on the other hand are ******... almost 100 million in the hole so much of their top talent will be moving on...

An excellent rebuttal Mad. One that the majority of those who understand the economics of the cap follows. However, OutCoached has been told exactly what you’ve stated by numerous posters in the past few months. He either is ignorant (probably) or ignores them. The NFLPA definitely won’t allow a plethora of recently released established vets to oversaturate the FA market. It would devalue the FA market itself.


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[Ike Kelly]

Look I've been here since Juice and Dave were running things. A long time, pre 2004.

The infamous " big head " comment came in Troy's rookie year. That was 2003. Boy you are DUMB. The choice to donate is yours. I gave it a try. Wasn't for me. If that bothers you, it's a small smile from me. Most posters here are " free loaders " First round picks who don't start are not good first round picks, But I'm not a homer like you are, so....

Please do play along during free agency saying it was a good move or not, and of course during the draft. I'd lay even odds that your about as bad as anyone here.

Please do keep posting!

Play along at free agency? How are you going to do it? According to you, Colbert should release Ben and all the vets with contracts to stay under the cap number you say exists. You can’t have any FA if you have no cap room. But wait, we would have a ton of comp picks for releasing Ben and the others.......Right. Those comp picks you want are proportionate to the contracts they get, of which there wouldn’t be any under your purported cap number. Dumb ***.

It’s strange I remember a lot of posters before 2003, but the first time I recall you posting anything is your Polamalu gaffe. And I do mean gaffe.

A small smile from you for not contributing? It wasn't for you? If anyone on this board deserves a post limit it is you. It is bad enough you claim to be wealthy but then you turn around and brag about not contributing while eating up bandwidth like you are dining at a smorgasbord. Pray Ike, me, or a handful of other posters never get banning capabilities twatwaffle. What is even more of a mystery is how you still manage to have a supporter or two. They must be entertained by window lickers or feel sorry for you. As you know I don't fall into either category, I will cheer the day you are gone.

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OutCoached is wealthy? Not that it matters, but usually those that say they are, are not. But hey if he isn’t, and wants to have contribution status, have him contact Steelers81 and I’ll work out something to gift a subscription.

LOL, OutCoached bothers me? Oh hardly. Frankly, pointing out the bombastic narcissistic ******** like him/her is cathartically humorous, as much of the board does so too as well.

Listen, I’m not one for banning any poster unless he or she breaks a board rule or ethics code. That’s why we have the Mods. Justin is very pragmatic about having an open Board for posters of our franchise community. One of, if not the best, I’ve ever seen. However, those who abuse privileges provided, such as non-starter thread creations for discussion, or reply constantly posts for personal gratification should not have the same privileges as those who don’t abuse them. OutCoached posts more than the majority of the contributors on this board, and as shown above purposefully laughs at NOT contributing to this board as “I tried, it wasn’t for me”. If it wasn’t, then why the huge numbers of posts or thread creations?

It’s sad really. He/she must really lack attention behind their keyboard life.


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[Black & Gold Bleeder]

In summation , he's a Narcissistic idiot who posts garbage, just so he can get attention, good or bad.

 

[slashsteel]

Play along at free agency? How are you going to do it? According to you, Colbert should release Ben and all the vets with contracts to stay under the cap number you say exists. You can’t have any FA if you have no cap room. But wait, we would have a ton of comp picks for releasing Ben and the others.......Right. Those comp picks you want are proportionate to the contracts they get, of which there wouldn’t be any under your purported cap number. Dumb ***.

It’s strange I remember a lot of posters before 2003, but the first time I recall you posting anything is your Polamalu gaffe. And I do mean gaffe.



OutCoached is wealthy? Not that it matters, but usually those that say they are, are not. But hey if he isn’t, and wants to have contribution status, have him contact Steelers81 and I’ll work out something to gift a subscription.

LOL, OutCoached bothers me? Oh hardly. Frankly, pointing out the bombastic narcissistic ******** like him/her is cathartically humorous, as much of the board does so too as well.

Listen, I’m not one for banning any poster unless he or she breaks a board rule or ethics code. That’s why we have the Mods. Justin is very pragmatic about having an open Board for posters of our franchise community. One of, if not the best, I’ve ever seen. However, those who abuse privileges provided, such as non-starter thread creations for discussion, or reply constantly posts for personal gratification should not have the same privileges as those who don’t abuse them. OutCoached posts more than the majority of the contributors on this board, and as shown above purposefully laughs at NOT contributing to this board as “I tried, it wasn’t for me”. If it wasn’t, then why the huge numbers of posts or thread creations?

It’s sad really. He/she must really lack attention behind their keyboard life.


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He claims to have that luxury vehicle. He is a habitual liar so yeah probably not true.

I am with you on the banning thing, just was yanking his chain for being a ********.

 

[madinsomniac]

I’ve seen several posts throughout the site suggest we cut various players for comp picks... a few things

1. The max comp picks you can get is 4
2. Players under contract that you cut have no bearing on the Comp pick formula... They have to be on expiring contracts or a “voided for cause“ situation ...

Cutting Ben or Cam or Tuitt doesn’t get us a Magical comp pick boost... If we have 18 free agents, resign 10 of them, let 8 walk, sign some relatively cheap comp eligible guys and a few that aren’t comp eligible then we likely get some nice comp picks.. nobody actually knows the equation because its super secret or something... lol

 

[FSF]

I think Ok could be a decent LT option. I would keep Banner on the right.

Okorafor doesn’t have lower body strength right now. He’s pushed around to ridiculous degree.


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[FSF]

"At the bare minimum, this puts the Steelers $16.6 million over the cap. Steelers Nation has to take into account the team does not have nine positions without starters signed for 2021. James Conner, JuJu Smith-Schuster, Jordan Berry, Mike Hilton, Matt Feiler, Alejandro Villanueva, Cameron Heyward, Bud Dupree, and Daniel McCullers (I have him penciled in as the starting nose tackle) are all slated to hit free agency at the end of 2020. Heyward, Dupree, Hilton, Feiler, and Smith-Schuster could all command rich contracts that would include significant signing bonuses. Even if the players took veteran minimums for their base salaries, their signing bonuses should be costly. Only Stephon Tuitt is signed through the 2022 season, so do not look for any restructures which could give the team relief in 2021 with the team’s current contracts. "

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...s-will-need-to-face-kevin-colbert-free-agents

^^ 2021 = The window to play in another super bowl is closed. 4-5 starters will walk, Ben will be on this last legs, and likely will retire after the 2021 season...as the OL will be crap. Pouncey might retire around this time so. Big AL is on the decline. Feiler a solid right tackle will be a hot commodity in free agency, color him gone too. No team can obtain a franchise level QB, AND repair its OL in the same year. More like years.

If would not shock me if Tomlin steps down, as even he is smart enough to see the train wreck looming in the future.

Never read anybody who has less of a grasp of reality as you.

Ever consider the same cap impact is going to hit every team next year? “Players will walk”.... to where exactly? You think no other team will face cap problems? Or do you believe they fountains of free cash flow?

To the NFL, why would the Steelers sign Heyward to the huge deal prior to this season knowing cap problems on horizon? Bad question, even If you had capacity to understand managerial or contingency reserves, a coloring book is still above your head.

#1: It’s not going to be as bad as you think.
#2: NFL & NFLPA will be negotiating to reach some degree of short term compromise, no different than that of every publicly traded company & every privately owned I have close enough relationships with to know.
#3: Spare us your forecasts. You can’t predict the sun will rise.





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[madinsomniac]

So I am curious Coach... what is your definition of the “ window slamming shut”

Is it the end of bens time here
The end of contending for a super bowl
Missing the playoffs for a defined period of time
Falling to a bottom third team
Ending Tomlins time here
Or something else... I don’t feel you specified exactly what you expect to happen

In 2003 we had a horrid year, retooled on the fly and were in the afc cg the next year and won a super bowl after that...
in 2013 the defense started dipping and by 2015 it was horrendous... the offense was one of the best in the league and now the defense is pretty great... I think the worse case based on the past 30 years is a couple years of mediocrity...

 

[Coach]

Those numbers are misleading... that is assuming that the cap drops to the 175mil level the NFL spoke about previous to the season. They are reworking TV deals so that may or may not be final, and there is talk of spreading the cap hit over multiple years... so if the cap drops to 175 then yes they are there, however over 5 million dollars rolls over from this year, so the number drops to 15 million... if they extend ben a couple years out, they can reduce his cap hit by that amount in and of itself... several other reworks and a few cuts and they will have plenty of money to sign a roster...


lets look at it this way... every team will lose 23 million dollars of cap space next year, unless they ultimately spread that hit over four or five years... to put that into perspective, this year 27 of 32 teams would have had to cut players this season to get under that number... 23 of them would have had to trim OVER 10 million from the cap

or how about this... the cap is calculated using the top 51 up until the season, then the active 53 afterwards... here is the issues the nfl has with next year if they don't adjust things

1 just to get to 53 man rosters, there are 1696 roster spots that must be filled for the 32 teams... as of today there are 1192 under contract for next season, meaning 504 players must be signed by the 32 teams next year.... cap space right now sits at 448 million dollars though its not as bad as that sounds.... after cap rollovers its projected to be around 791 million dollars... that averages out to a million and a half per free agent, and that sounds doable... but here is the hitch....

the top 5 cap space teams have $463,118,959 of that cap space... for 66 spots... that 58% of the cap space for 13% of the roster space
That leaves 328,193,748 for 438 players on 27 teams... basically teams will cap adjust a ton, but that's going to be just to fill out a roster.. large long term contracts are going to be few and far between.... the Pats, Colts and Redskins will be able to hit UFA well, but the top two teams will be the Jets and Jags, and frankly those are going to be hard sells to the best talent after recent fiascos with their front office moves...

so yeah face value the cap situation sounds scary... but it isn't really that bad comparatively... the saints, on the other hand are ******... almost 100 million in the hole so much of their top talent will be moving on...

If every team losses 23 million in cap space next year we are F'd. We are in the negative the way it is. The teams with cap space above 23 million will be able to acquire free agents in a less than competitive market knowing full well which teams can compete for player XYZ and IF they can afford him.

You really want to extend Ben at his age the way he is paying now? That's a hard NO from me.

" Through the first 13 weeks of the season, TV and digital NFL ratings were down 7% across the broadcast and cable networks that carry games, according to Nielsen data. Viewership among men in the 18-49 and 25-54 age categories that advertisers target during games was more significantly affected. "

Okay so ratings are down 7% and attendance was way down in 2020. Let's be reasonable, the cap is not going up as there are losses. It's going down.

Come early 2021 when we are bleeding free agents because we have no cap space, some posters here are going to get a big I'll told you so.

 

[Coach]

So I am curious Coach... what is your definition of the “ window slamming shut”

Is it the end of bens time here
The end of contending for a super bowl
Missing the playoffs for a defined period of time
Falling to a bottom third team
Ending Tomlins time here
Or something else... I don’t feel you specified exactly what you expect to happen

In 2003 we had a horrid year, retooled on the fly and were in the afc cg the next year and won a super bowl after that...
in 2013 the defense started dipping and by 2015 it was horrendous... the offense was one of the best in the league and now the defense is pretty great... I think the worse case based on the past 30 years is a couple years of mediocrity...

You said it. All of the above. Window slammed shut = Forget playing in a Super Bowl. I don't see the playoffs in 2021. Post Ben we will be mediocre until a Franchise level or very good QB is found. . Records ranging from 6-10 to 9-7. As a 6th or 7th seed. Yes that could happen, but let's get real With Tomlin here, who will likely be 3 for his last 10 in the playoffs, winning a playoff game will remain a long shot.

Aging players who are over paid due to cap mismanagement will become a problem. The defense is too good to be a bottom third team during the transition, and that could be a problem as top QB's tend to go early in the draft.

Come 2021, we are screwed on the cap ( we will be cutting some players ) , will need to rebuild the OL, will need a new franchise level QB.

PS: In 2003, we picked high and got Ben. That's not happening in the 2021 draft, so a quick re-bound is highly unlikely.

 

[TDX27]

The only FA we are signing next year is Watt. Bud, even though he will now get a "prove it" contract, next year when he does get back from his injury will still get more elsewhere. And, JuJu will probably be gone as well. He is the only other FA I would try to sign but I doubt we can unless we have massive cuts elsewhere.

 

[CoolieMan]

If every team losses 23 million in cap space next year we are F'd. We are in the negative the way it is. The teams with cap space above 23 million will be able to acquire free agents in a less than competitive market knowing full well which teams can compete for player XYZ and IF they can afford him.

You really want to extend Ben at his age the way he is paying now? That's a hard NO from me.

" Through the first 13 weeks of the season, TV and digital NFL ratings were down 7% across the broadcast and cable networks that carry games, according to Nielsen data. Viewership among men in the 18-49 and 25-54 age categories that advertisers target during games was more significantly affected. "

Okay so ratings are down 7% and attendance was way down in 2020. Let's be reasonable, the cap is not going up as there are losses. It's going down.

Come early 2021 when we are bleeding free agents because we have no cap space, some posters here are going to get a big I'll told you so.

much better....you post in over sized font and it gets adjusted to a level more suitable to your gibberish

 

[AggieSteel]

I do not subscribe to this way of thinking. The implication is that we only have a "window" if Ben is at his peak. Of course we don't have another Super Bowl winning QB on the roster today, but we have a strong roster around Ben and this team has always been able to rebuild fairly quickly. At worst, we may have a couple down years but if we have a high draft pick post-Ben, best believe we'll grab another highly talented QB. Y'all act like we're going to fade into obscurity for 20 years just because Ben hangs it up

 

[madinsomniac]

If every team losses 23 million in cap space next year we are F'd. We are in the negative the way it is. The teams with cap space above 23 million will be able to acquire free agents in a less than competitive market knowing full well which teams can compete for player XYZ and IF they can afford him.

You really want to extend Ben at his age the way he is paying now? That's a hard NO from me.

" Through the first 13 weeks of the season, TV and digital NFL ratings were down 7% across the broadcast and cable networks that carry games, according to Nielsen data. Viewership among men in the 18-49 and 25-54 age categories that advertisers target during games was more significantly affected. "

Okay so ratings are down 7% and attendance was way down in 2020. Let's be reasonable, the cap is not going up as there are losses. It's going down.

Come early 2021 when we are bleeding free agents because we have no cap space, some posters here are going to get a big I'll told you so.

I don’t think you understand... the -21 million dollars is assuming the league drops the cap 23 million like it said it would preseason... its already factored in...


Let me try to explain this further...
the league get about 15% of its revenue from tickets and concessions
There are usually about 1.7 billion with another 500 million in concessions...
This year its looking more like 500 To 550 million and something like 250 million in concessions

Now that revenue gets broken up 50/50 between players and owners... and it isn’t pure profit either...

The league was expecting a total drop of the cap to 175 million from the 198 its at for this season.....
if it remained at 198, the Steelers would not be over the cap at all

When they add money from the tv deals it’s possible the players association asks some be used to compensate for next year... borrowing from future profits to ease the blip next year...

The cap wont drop another 23 million... it may adjust a couple million down, but again most people don’t expect that once people realize the impact league wide that creates that the players will stand for it..

Most teams will be filling rosters will league min guys and cutting vets...

Try to read my post... more than 50% Of the total cap space is held by 5 teams with 66 vacant spots (13%Of tge vacant spots)... its unsustainable in that format for over 2/3rds of the league... they wont have enough cap space to fill out rosters much less resign their own free agents at anything close to what they are getting...

 

[stuntmanmike]

Calls into question how the Steelers conduct business in the modern era of trying to draft and grow players. I don’t think the cap allows it anymore. We draft players like Dupree, green and raw we coach them up, they go sign with another team rinse and repeat.. I don’t see us keeping us bud, juju probably feiler, Hilton, and keeping Ben. Guys we invested heavily in. Suks

 

[madinsomniac]

I see Hilton maybe coming back... mostcteams are not going to use him right... the one team that msy make a play on him is New England