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The Official Thread Dedicated to "Trump Winning"

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I am not throwing in the towel. But unlike many here, I do not think there is widespread voter fraud. Certainly not enough to change the election results.

I think Trump lost this election, MOSTLY fair and MOSTLY square. And that's good enough for me.

Of ALL the elections where FINALLY proof of wide spread voter fraud exists, this would have been the one to show it. There were just too many eyes, too much scrutiny. And the lawyers pretty much have nothing.

Sorry, that's the way I see it.

Again, I am VERY encouraged at some of the numbers from this election. I still think Democrats have a broken platform. I still think identity politics will fail (and drive more voters to our side). I still think "wokeness" and "Critical Race Theory" are completely broken and flawed ideals.

I think Democrats will not improve the economy as well as Trump economics and that will play out by 2024. I think Trump will continue to get MORE credit for his foreign work, particularly in the Middle East and China, the further we fall back into Obama foreign relations.

Everything Biden is doing is basically going BACK to Obama ideas. He has nothing new to add, other than having to pander MORE to his whiny, woke, base.

That's not going to work.

Take the hatred of Trump away from Suburban America, and Conservative Nationalism wins. It is winning over Blacks, Hispanics, Men, working class folk, etc., etc.

Stick to the message, not the messenger. All we need to do is find a charismatic person to talk about it. Not some career politician, nerdy, white guy with delusions of grandeur.
 

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I am not throwing in the towel. But unlike many here, I do not think there is widespread voter fraud. Certainly not enough to change the election results.

I think Trump lost this election, MOSTLY fair and MOSTLY square. And that's good enough for me.

Of ALL the elections where FINALLY proof of wide spread voter fraud exists, this would have been the one to show it. There were just too many eyes, too much scrutiny. And the lawyers pretty much have nothing.

Sorry, that's the way I see it.

Not sure how well you are following this but it isn't just about voter fraud. Several states changed the place and time of how the votes were cast. Same thing happened in FL during Bush v. Gore. The PA supreme court ruled that ballots could be counted days after the election. The constitution gives absolute authority to the state legislators to determine those things. Every single mail in ballot could be tossed out if the court wants to because the state supreme court overstepped it's authority. Same thing with voter signatures. The law says that there must be verified voter signatures but the local election boards disregarded the law. So once again the court could order a re-canvassing which would throw out those ballots.

Now to the voter fraud. It's rampant. I've see the stats and they show that Biden under performed Hillary in every single metropolitan area except 4... Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Atlanta. He over performed Hillary by margins of almost 96%. It's mathematically impossible. There are mathematicians that have filed sworn affidavits saying exactly that. This was rigged from the start.
 

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Where is Trump now? He has been invisible since the election unless you count twitter rants.

Why didn't you ask that about Biden during the entire campaign?
 

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Shouldn't you change the title to this thread to Trump Whining?

While we all know you're just being the smartass douchebag you typically are, no, it should stay "winning". Because for four years, against all odds and the vile swamp creatures desperately trying to take him down at every turn, we had a political outsider who did more for this country in that short time than most politicians have done in their entire existence.

And you know it.
 

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Where is Trump now? He has been invisible since the election unless you count twitter rants.

Let's see - since election day, Trump has announced:

Prescription drug price reductions.
Positive covid vaccine developments as a direct result of Operation Warp Speed
Economic surge of Dow to 30,000.
Troop withdrawals from Afghanistan and Syria
 

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I keep getting these e-mails but then I see Trump judges dismissing his lawsuit in PA....WTF ? Is there a realistic answer to any of this or doesn't the Country give a **** ? This looks plain as day to me but then what would I know.

5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms
Surely the journalist class should be intrigued by the historic implausibility of Joe Biden’s victory. That they are not is curious, to say the least.

By J.B. Shurk

NOVEMBER 23, 2020

In all the excitement among objective journalists for Joe Biden’s declared victory, reporters are missing how extraordinary the Democrat’s performance was in the 2020 election. It’s not just that the former vice president is on track to become the oldest president in American history, it’s what he managed to accomplish at the polls this year.

Candidate Joe Biden was so effective at animating voters in 2020 that he received a record number of votes, more than 15 million more than Barack Obama received in his re-election of 2012. Amazingly, he managed to secure victory while also losing in almost every bellwether county across the country. No presidential candidate has been capable of such electoral jujitsu until now.

While Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton’s 2016 totals in every urban county in the United States, he outperformed her in the metropolitan areas of Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Even more surprising, the former VP put up a record haul of votes, despite Democrats’ general failures in local House and state legislative seats across the nation.

He accomplished all this after receiving a record low share of the primary vote compared to his Republican opponent heading into the general election. Clearly, these are tremendous and unexpected achievements that would normally receive sophisticated analysis from the journalist class but have somehow gone mostly unmentioned during the celebrations at news studios in New York City and Washington, D.C.

The massive national political realignment now taking place may be one source of these surprising upsets. Yet still, to have pulled so many rabbits out of his hat like this, nobody can deny that Biden is a first-rate campaigner and politician, the likes of which America has never before seen. Let’s break down just how unique his political voodoo has been in 2020.

1. 80 Million Votes

Holy moly! A lot of Americans turned out for a Washington politician who’s been in office for nearly 50 years. Consider this: no incumbent president in nearly a century and a half has gained votes in a re-election campaign and still lost.

President Trump gained more than ten million votes since his 2016 victory, but Biden’s appeal was so substantial that it overcame President Trump’s record support among minority voters. Biden also shattered Barack Obama’s own popular vote totals, really calling into question whether it was not perhaps Biden who pulled Obama across the finish lines in 2008 and 2012.

Proving how sharp his political instincts are, the former VP managed to gather a record number of votes while consistently trailing President Trump in measures of voter enthusiasm. Biden was so savvy that he motivated voters unenthusiastic about his campaign to vote for him in record numbers.

2. Winning Despite Losing Most Bellwether Counties
Biden is set to become the first president in 60 years to lose the states of Ohio and Florida on his way to election. For a century, these states have consistently predicted the national outcome, and they have been considered roughly representative of the American melting pot as a whole. Despite national polling giving Biden a lead in both states, he lost Ohio by eight points and Florida by more than three.

For Biden to lose these key bellwethers by notable margins and still win the national election is newsworthy. Not since the Mafia allegedly aided John F. Kennedy in winning Illinois over Richard Nixon in 1960 has an American president pulled off this neat trick.

Even more unbelievably, Biden is on his way to winning the White House after having lost almost every historic bellwether county across the country. The Wall Street Journal and The Epoch Times independently analyzed the results of 19 counties around the United States that have nearly perfect presidential voting records over the last 40 years. President Trump won every single bellwether county, except Clallam County in Washington.

Whereas the former VP picked up Clallam by about three points, President Trump’s margin of victory in the other 18 counties averaged over 16 points. In a larger list of 58 bellwether counties that have correctly picked the president since 2000, Trump won 51 of them by an average of 15 points, while the other seven went to Biden by around four points. Bellwether counties overwhelmingly chose President Trump, but Biden found a path to victory anyway.

3. Biden Trailed Clinton Except in a Select Few Cities
Patrick Basham, a pollster with an accurate track record and the director of the Democracy Institute in D.C., highlighted two observations made by fellow colleagues, polling guru Richard Baris of Big Data Poll and Washington Post election analyst Robert Barnes. Baris noted a statistical oddity from 2020’s election returns: “Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.”

Barnes added that in those “big cities in swing states run by Democrats…the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.” In the states that mattered most, so many mail-in ballots poured in for Biden from the cities that he put up record-breaking numbers and overturned state totals that looked like comfortable leads for President Trump.

If Democrats succeed in eliminating the Electoral College, Biden’s magic formula for churning out overwhelming vote totals in a handful of cities should make the Democrats unbeatable.

4. Biden Won Despite Democrat Losses Everywhere Else
Randy DeSoto noted in The Western Journal that “Donald Trump was pretty much the only incumbent president in U.S. history to lose his re-election while his own party gained seats in the House of Representatives.” Now that’s a Biden miracle!

In 2020, The Cook Political Report and The New York Times rated 27 House seats as toss-ups going into Election Day. Right now, Republicans appear to have won all 27. Democrats failed to flip a single state house chamber, while Republicans flipped both the House and Senate in New Hampshire and expanded their dominance of state legislatures across the country.

Christina Polizzi, a spokesperson for the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, went so far as to state: “It’s clear that Trump isn’t an anchor for the Republican legislative candidates. He’s a buoy.” Amazingly, Biden beat the guy who lifted all other Republicans to victory. Now that’s historic!

5. Biden Overcame Trump’s Commanding Primary Vote
In the past, primary vote totals have been remarkably accurate in predicting general election winners. Political analyst David Chapman highlighted three historical facts before the election.

First, no incumbent who has received 75 percent of the total primary vote has lost re-election. Second, President Trump received 94 percent of the primary vote, which is the fourth highest of all time (higher than Dwight Eisenhower, Nixon, Clinton, or Obama). In fact, Trump is only one of five incumbents since 1912 to receive more than 90 percent of the primary vote.

Third, Trump set a record for most primary votes received by an incumbent when more than 18 million people turned out for him in 2020 (the previous record, held by Bill Clinton, was half that number). For Biden to prevail in the general election, despite Trump’s historic support in the primaries, turns a century’s worth of prior election data on its head.
 

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I keep getting these e-mails but then I see Trump judges dismissing his lawsuit in PA....WTF ? Is there a realistic answer to any of this or doesn't the Country give a **** ? This looks plain as day to me but then what would I know.

PA doesn't want to admit that PA ****** up. No matter how obvious it is.
 

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PA doesn't want to admit that PA ****** up. No matter how obvious it is.

But I thought it was " obvious " that the State Supreme Court didn't have the authority to alter the election rules, the legislature was the sole proprietor of such things ?

What happened to that ?


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Just like this **** that is published just to inflame Trump supporters. None of it means anything about election fraud, none of it has merit and none of it deserves investigating.

 

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Would be great but his statement about Stevie Wonder might come back to bite him. A Republican can have all the success in the world but make an off-handed comment in jest and their career could be shot.

Only with the Left and media who won't vote for him anyway.
Unfortunately in PA's last gubernatorial election a jerk with a lot of his own money and the most TV commercials won the GOP primary and I knew he wouldn't stand a chance in the general election. The media dutifully had reports and video of him pitching fits and bullying people, I was on the state GOP committee at the time and all I could say was, "Yup, I've met him twice and can confirm that he's an *******". That's how we got stuck for another four years with the idiot Democrat governor and his transvestite secretary of health.
The guy I backed in the primary was retired military and a high-level health care executive and it might have been nice to have someone with that background running the state this year.
 
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A couple more classics this morning. Why is the American public the only ones concerned about this ?

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DALLAS, TX—Sources close to Winston Davis say he is “totally screwed” as his girlfriend Wendy Fitzpatrick keeps referring to herself as “Wife-Elect” at any and every public gathering with close family and friends. This awkward situation is happening to Winston despite no clear moment in time in which it ever entered his mind that Wendy was “the one” or that he was even getting close to asking her the question to make such an interim title even remotely appropriate.

“Uh, honey—” Winston could be heard starting to interject before Wendy went ahead and dialed up local caterers and contractors to make arrangements for the wedding, which was surely going to unify their two families who haven’t always gotten along, and bring about a glorious time of family healing.

Wendy had even started delegating bridesmaids to begin getting fitted for dresses and unironically telling members of her family that she was setting up an “Office of the Wife-Elect.”

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How about a "Biden winning" thread. So far:

Biden playing fetch? Nope. Biden's dog won that contest.

I got nothing else here.
 

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How about a "Biden winning" thread. So far:

Biden playing fetch? Nope. Biden's dog won that contest.

I got nothing else here.


Biden joke from my uncle:
If Biden is a strong thoroughbred just like the media says, well then shouldn’t we have to put him down since he broke his ankle???

Irreverent I know....but I laughed for a good 5 minutes at that.
 

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Was listening to Breitbart Radio on my way in to work today, and Alex Marlow was saying there are rumblings that Trump is going to grant amnesty to roughly 11 million illegals in order to take that away from Biden. In fairness I only caught about half the story, so I may be lacking context. I looked bit can't find anything very recent. Most recent is October 22 of this year stating that Trump is in favor of amnesty for SOME illegals. This morning was the first I had heard of that.
 

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How about a "Biden winning" thread. So far:

Biden playing fetch? Nope. Biden's dog won that contest.

I got nothing else here.

In Biden vs. Teleprompter, the teleprompter beats his *** every time.
 
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