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The Coronavirus thread

Troglodyte said:
AND Tibs and I never said everyone was going to die from Covid.

You fail to accept the realities of the alternative and believe life and the economy would simply have gone as usual had we let it go unmitigated. That’s nonsense. Businesses have closed and imposed their own restrictions beyond the government mandates. They would have been far greater if we had let chaos ensue.
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but it would be over or almost over and we would have achieved significant immunity. On a morbid note we would have also helped make Social Security more solvent.(I am going to hell for that one)
 
SojournerSteel said:
Covid-1984 is a military grade psychological operations attack against the citizens of the United States and our way of life. The US is the Dien Bien Phu last bastion of freedom in the world. Much like in a POW setting, people have been isolated and segregated to suffer alone in a society that already had artificial and virtual anonymity and a dearth of human connection.

The CDC is running PSA's on #AloneTogether which in itself is an Orwellian psychological torture slogan.

(Translated: You're alone. We're all alone. There's nothing one person can do. But we're all in this defeat together if we just follow the guidance of the authorities and don't leave our homes)

Psyop attacks are of course designed to break down the will of the victim and population in order to impose -- through the process of war -- the new order and paradigm. The attack is designed to instill fear, suffering, and isolation to the point that the public will accept "terms" of surrender in order for life to return to some semblance of "normal" IE mandatory vaccines, social and economic controls, biometric ID and RFID tagging for contact tracing, and greater and subsuming state/collectivist control. The argument already is that your rights end where even the remote possibility of Covid-1984 transmission begin.
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Think you need one of these
 
Got my second Covid case this week. Both were over 90 years old and both lived in nursing homes.
I'm getting a little baffled at why bars and restaurants have to close when most of the people dying from it are in nursing homes.
 
43Hitman said:
Ahh. but we're not alone, we have each other and Christ. they just want us to think we're alone and only the govt. can fix this.
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Beautiful point, Hitman. And Happy B-day man. Happy belated to you too Vader, I just never saw you post yesterday.
 
43Hitman said:
Ahh. but we're not alone, we have each other and Christ. they just want us to think we're alone and only the govt. can fix this.
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True.
 
jitter77 said:
Think you need one of these
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And many of us think you need one of these:

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Steelworth said:
Some people have chemical imbalances that they can't control, so medication helps their brain either slow down or speed up the neurotransmitter activity. Bipolar disorder is a somewhat common and big one apparently. I feel bad for this woman and many like her if she can't get the medication/help she needs, but doesn't she continue to get that OFTB? Or is she just completely spooked?

Was watching a Joe Rogan podcast the other night and he said a lot of his friends that are normally pretty well-adjusted people are just drinking to serious excess because of all this ****. Many can compartmentalize and just let this stuff roll off their shoulder while others are way more sensitive to the external stimuli and it's like their bodies are in fight or flight mode a lot of the time.

Our military men/women know all about this (as well as those other people in uniform who protect us) and I know there are millions of people around the world who have it a lot more difficult than Americans do, but many Americans are also a very spoiled bunch. I'm sure first reactions are to say "suck it up" or "toughen up", but it seems like a lot of people are really having trouble doing that just going by the new statistics on domestic abuse, alcohol and drug abuse, suicides and assaults & homicides.

Sad state of affairs.
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I don't know all the ins and outs of her situation because she's a friend of a friend. I do know she is a brilliant very educated person, I do know she has had episodes like this before, but this time she's gone way off the rails. Very, very active in the community and I think the inability to have those outlets for her energy, and all of the introspection, fear and "the new normal" has taken it's toll. I'm not a doctor so don't claim to know the exact cause and effect.
 
oneforthebus said:
I do know she is a brilliant very educated person, I do know she has had episodes like this before, but this time she's gone way off the rails. Very, very active in the community and I think the inability to have those outlets for her energy, and all of the introspection, fear and "the new normal" has taken it's toll. I'm not a doctor so don't claim to know the exact cause and effect.
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I'll share a story related to this. Worked at a research institution for a couple years, and apparently the students who were going there were committing suicide at a very high rate. It was getting so bad that the president of the university actually had a full campus and employee discussion in the auditorium (not mandatory but encouraged). This was around 2010. Hardly any students showed up but a lot of the employees were there.

And these were brilliant students, most probably genius level (Caltech's requirements for admission I think is 1520 on the SATs and a 4.0+ grade point average minimum), and these were engineering and science majors. What caught my attention was that the people who were speaking were mainly talking about bipolar disorder. Apparently the autopsies were showing something in the brain that had them discussing it (beyond my understanding). They definitely came from backgrounds where the parents/family would put a lot of pressure on them to go all the way in education, but again, the main focus of the discussion was on bipolar disorder and the 2 known types.

I guess there's such a stigma around it that they were citing examples of brilliant composers or artists or past physicists who were suspected of having bipolar disorder, and that it's okay; just to get the proper psychological and medical attention I guess.

Definitely reminded me of your friend's friend. I really hope she gets some help and some relief.
 
And just another thought, but I really don't think it has anything to do with willpower or discipline etc., because these students already knew everything about that because of how they got to where they were at that point. It's sad to me and it must really be terrible for a person so brilliant, accomplished already, and have their whole life ahead of them to also feel it's so painful and dreadful (life), that they feel their only option left is to take it.

People can talk about finding God, finding faith and such (and I somewhat agree), but that's a discussion for another time and place.
 
Troglodyte said:
AND Tibs and I never said everyone was going to die from Covid.
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I never said that. But you all did stand behind the original claims by the faulty science originally spewed that it could kill "millions."

Troglodyte said:
You fail to accept the realities of the alternative and believe life and the economy would simply have gone as usual had we let it go unmitigated. That’s nonsense. Businesses have closed and imposed their own restrictions beyond the government mandates. They would have been far greater if we had let chaos ensue.
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Thanks for helping to strengthen my point above.

99.6% survival rate. Not worth shutting the country down.

The cure WILL be worse than the virus. Keep coming back to these points. The more you do, time is on my side, and as time passes, the argument will sadly strengthen.
 
Critical thinking skills people, please find some for the love of humanity:

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Steelworth said:
Critical thinking skills people, please find some for the love of humanity:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thanks I hate it. <a href="https://t.co/RwpiT6fhDj">pic.twitter.com/RwpiT6fhDj</a></p>— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) <a href="https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1287137709564149760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Lol.

My daughter music lessons, she is in this choir group thing, started back up last week. On Friday they did their thing, dance and sing at a Rita’s water ice. Parents all came and it was great. I along with many two other people standing outside no masks. This one women who’s husband stood next to me keep going “Ed Ed. Get over here...and I knew....didn’t look didn’t care. He more or less told his wife f u I got a better view of my kid. She moved. Lol.
 
And that is also so madding to me. How the **** is that doing anything!!!! You have a ******* hole in your mask!!!! Wtf is the point!!!

Love to see that pass a fit test
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
I never said that. But you all did stand behind the original claims by the faulty science originally spewed that it could kill "millions."

Thanks for helping to strengthen my point above.

99.6% survival rate. Not worth shutting the country down.

The cure WILL be worse than the virus. Keep coming back to these points. The more you do, time is on my side, and as time passes, the argument will sadly strengthen.
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You most certainly did say that, but never mind...

Either math ain’t your thing, or you don’t realize what you are arguing.

If it has a 99.6% survival rate, then 40 million have had it and it’s much more contagious than the statistics indicate. So 40 million have had it WITH mitigation, but 250 million couldn’t get it without mitigation? How do you figure?

The “faulty science“ also predicted 100,000-200,000 deaths with mitigation. How’s that panning out?
 
Troglodyte said:
The “faulty science“ also predicted 100,000-200,000 deaths with mitigation. How’s that panning out?
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The ''faulty science'' was originally predicting 20 million deaths worldwide. How's that working out?
 
Troglodyte said:
You most certainly did say that, but never mind...
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Find the quote. I'll wait.

Troglodyte said:
Either math ain’t your thing, or you don’t realize what you are arguing.

If it has a 99.6% survival rate, then 40 million have had it and it’s much more contagious than the statistics indicate.
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As of today we have had
4,327,673 CASES
149,490 DEATHS

Grab your calculator Flogged....

96.5% of those tested/verified to have it have LIVED. Which also means...considering the countless many many others that have it that don't know and never got tested...this rate above is still OVER-inflated. Antibody tests show 10x to 20x to 85x the number tested/verified have had it (like the flu).

The survival rate is better than 96%, I just post the most conservative numbers so "Gotya Dumbasses" like you stay on track.

Troglodyte said:
The “faulty science“ also predicted 100,000-200,000 deaths with mitigation. How’s that panning out?
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The "faulty science" initially put a stake in the ground that it would be millions of Americans dead. Fact.
They lowered it a half dozen times.
100-200K was one of their bets, as was millions.
67K was one of their bets too.

You now want to point to 100-200K and after the fact say "see they knew what they were talking about." LMAO. Christ they were only off by 1.8 to 1.9Million deaths at one point.

Yer really good man. You're like the kid sitting in the backseat looking at the speedometer and saying "I bet we are going 60MPH."
 
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