The Coronavirus thread

[Tibs]

Can you explain to me, without contact tracing, how someone scientifically can claim that beach parties and house parties ARE spreading the virus, but MASSIVE outdoor protests that violate masks and social distancing guidelines does not? I'll wait.

Why don't you contact the National Bureau of Economic Research and ask them? Here is their contact info >

1050 Massachusetts Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138
ph: 617-868-3900
email: info@nber.org

And btw, good on you that you're working on helping companies get back to work in a safe and orderly fashion. Kudos.

 

[Steelworth]

Do you mean like nursing homes, where more than 40% of our COVID deaths have occurred?

I know the media and leftist establishment want to bury this, but it's not going to happen with the American people. Janice Dean (one of the sweetest people on television who is a working mom with MS) had her husband's parents die unnecessarily due to Cuomo's criminal negligence. And then she gets **** on by the leftist mob for expressing her outrage about it when they're acting like he's a magician.

He's a magician alright, made thousands of people disappear in the blink of an eye.

 

[Troglodyte]

wow - so you're saying Germany has 100% eradicated the virus? that's some sweet ****, there, Flog.
holy ****, you've stumbled on to something there.

nice back pedal on your initial presumption:


oh, wait. you're still wrong. even when you move the goal posts.

What back pedal? Two different statistics, one having nothing to do with the other, other than Florida being a ******* mess. Hoping something might register with you, but to no avail. Murica number one in testing and cases and deaths! Florida number one in Murica! Congratulations. Enjoy.

 

[Steelworth]

Florida number one in Murica! Congratulations. Enjoy.

Number one in what?

 

[Troglodyte]

Ok Flogged. You DO earn your nickname.

I guess you don’t understand graphs either? You don’t see the deaths CURRENTLY increasing, around 1,000/day?

 

[Steelworth]

I guess you don’t understand graphs either? You don’t see the deaths CURRENTLY increasing, around 1,000/day?

Holy ****, Trog. I don't have the time at the moment, but just look at that furthest right line, it's in the middle of zero and 1k. That's not around 1,000.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Why don't you contact the National Bureau of Economic Research and ask them? Here is their contact info >

No I specifically asked you. You're sharing this bullshit. As Supe pointed out, you have a habit of sharing dangerous misinformation. You've now come to the board, espousing that public protests are safe. Common sense tells us it's bullshit. You cite left wing propaganda as your source, lying deceitful organizations that have a vested interest in pushing these America-destroying protests who lie persistently to Americans and are lying again.

This paper was bullshit. You know it.

Without contact tracing, it's supposition as to where the virus came from and traveled to. Anyone who believes public protests are safe while other forms of public gathering are not are literally ignorant.

 

[Tibs]

Ok Tim, you’ve convinced me, don’t want anyone to get any bad info from the stuff I post here. So you’ll hear it from me first:

/clears throat...

Dear fellow SN members! I strongly advise you not to attend Black Lives Matters protests, Women’s Rights rallies, anti-Trump demonstrations or LBGQT rights marches without wearing a proper face mask, exercising social distancing and liberally using hand-sanitizer!

Thanks for your attention, Tibs

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I guess you don’t understand graphs either? You don’t see the deaths CURRENTLY increasing, around 1,000/day?

If you donated to the site, we might actually consider donating some of the proceeds to a pair of bifocals for you. But you don't, so you'll remain blind.

Deaths:
July 1 - 676
July 2 - 687
July 3 - 626
July 4 - 266
July 5 - 263
July 6 - 378
July 7 - 993
July 8 - 891
July 9 - 961
July 10 - 848
July 11 - 732
July 12 - 381
July 13 - 465
July 14 - 936
July 15 - 1,002
July 16 - 963
July 17 - 946
July 18 - 813
July 19 - 412
July 20 - 545

That's an average of 689 deaths daily in July. Not increasing to 1,000. In fact, the absolute data shows a decrease in deaths in the past 5 days. We topped 1,000 once in July. Once. We topped 1,000 deaths FOUR times in June.

Keep it coming Floggy.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

I find it humorous that there are those claiming the increase in cases is because sections of the country opened up too soon or somehow they didn't open up correctly.

Um, it a virus, that isn't going to go away no matter how long you cower in your house. It will be contained, and that's all that can be done, through immunity, because of exposure or a vaccine, that's it!

Realistically, exposure, other than the 1% that will succumb to the virus, is a good thing. You know, because it's a virus. The media, and NY governor, are cheering the low number of new cases there, never mentioning it's because nearly everyone there has already been exposed.

The rest of the country is just lagging behind. As more are exposed, the new case numbers will drop exponentially.

 

[Superman]

What back pedal? Two different statistics, one having nothing to do with the other, other than Florida being a ******* mess. Hoping something might register with you, but to no avail. Murica number one in testing and cases and deaths! Florida number one in Murica! Congratulations. Enjoy.

"one having nothing to do with the other"

by God and Allah, you're correct. the numbers in Germany are likely not as cooked as the ones here. You do know that there are numerous reports of invalid test results being sent out. Right? you are aware that there are labs who returned nearly 100% positive results on ALL - as A-L-L - tests taken. right? You know that's statistically impossible, right? right? You're also aware that HERE - not Germany, since I don't give a **** what the Krauts are doing - but HERE virtually any death is being listed as Rona, right? you know that, right?

so, yes, comparing Germany to Florida is a totally ignorant thing to do.

but, that IS what YOU did.

dipshit.

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[Tibs]

Just took some lousy polling numbers, and like magic, Trump starts touting wearing masks in the middle of July. Glad he's doing it, better late than never, I guess.

 

[Steelworth]

Keep it coming Floggy.

Bravo. I was literally going to do that myself for Flog because he's mind-numbingly obtuse or brain dead.

 

[Steelworth]

I find it humorous that there are those claiming the increase in cases is because sections of the country opened up too soon or somehow they didn't open up correctly.

Um, it a virus, that isn't going to go away no matter how long you cower in your house. It will be contained, and that's all that can be done, through immunity, because of exposure or a vaccine, that's it!

Realistically, exposure, other than the 1% that will succumb to the virus, is a good thing. You know, because it's a virus. The media, and NY governor, are cheering the low number of new cases there, never mentioning it's because nearly everyone there has already been exposed.

The rest of the country is just lagging behind. As more are exposed, the new case numbers will drop exponentially.

Hey Tibs, you said you wanted the opinion of medical professionals, well here's a retired one. Read carefully.

 

[Steelworth]

I find it humorous that there are those claiming the increase in cases is because sections of the country opened up too soon or somehow they didn't open up correctly.

Um, it a virus, that isn't going to go away no matter how long you cower in your house. It will be contained, and that's all that can be done, through immunity, because of exposure or a vaccine, that's it!

Realistically, exposure, other than the 1% that will succumb to the virus, is a good thing. You know, because it's a virus. The media, and NY governor, are cheering the low number of new cases there, never mentioning it's because nearly everyone there has already been exposed.

The rest of the country is just lagging behind. As more are exposed, the new case numbers will drop exponentially.

And honestly, this post should be stickied. Like kids, sometimes you gotta make people see/do **** over and over and over before they learn.

 

[oneforthebus]

Just took some lousy polling numbers, and like magic, Trump starts touting wearing masks in the middle of July. Glad he's doing it, better late than never, I guess.

If you cared about people's lives you would be happy about this development but instead you're going to use it to taunt Trump supporters.

Kudos to the President for doing the right thing.

 

[Tibs]

If you cared about people's lives you would be happy about this development but instead you're going to use it to taunt Trump supporters. Kudos to the President for doing the right thing.

Well...I did write:

Glad he's doing it, better late than never, I guess.

And I'm not taunting Trump supporters. I'm taunting Trump himself, who for months derided reporters for wearing masks, made light of the virus, said it would be gone in no time, etc.

But yes, he deserves ample praise that after six long months, 3,858,686 positive cases and 141,426 Americans dead, that someone finally got through to him that maybe wearing a mask isn't such a terrible idea. So yes, kudos to the President for doing the right thing, I agree.

 

[Steeltime]

Tibs, you spew lies generated by the ****-makers at Media Matters and lap up their feces like it's rocky road. On your claim about Trump and masks and the virus in general:

• You are propagating a proven lie by claiming Trump referred to the CHINESE FLU as a hoax.
• Trump sometimes uses “hoax” as an all-purpose denigration of opinions — or facts — he doesn’t like. In February he called criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus the Democrats’ “new hoax,” but he didn’t deny the existence of the epidemic,
• https://news.yahoo.com/trump-identifies-another-hoax-the-coronavirus-152649383.html
• This is at least the third time I have instructed you on this, so I know you are simply spewing a known lie because you think it hurts the President.
• Trump has never told citizens NOT to wear masks and has NEVER, at any time, referred to wearing a mask as a "hoax."
• "Trump says some Americans wear coronavirus masks to signal disapproval of him."
• https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/18/tru...virus-masks-to-signal-disapproval-of-him.html
• "Trump says he could see recommending all Americans wear masks."
• Kevin Liptak-Profile-Image By Jim Acosta and Kevin Liptak, CNN Updated 2:07 AM ET, Tue March 31, 2020
• https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/politics/trump-masks-coronavirus-recommendation/index.html
• Trump, governors diverge on mask mandates Several state leaders of both parties support the requirement, citing science. The president says people need to “have a certain freedom.”
• https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/19/trump-governors-masks-371304

At this point, I am simply tired of proving that you are spewing lying lies from leftist sites. Jesus ******* Christ, JIM ******* ACOSTA WROTE ON MARCH 30, 2020 THAT TRUMP COULD SEE RECOMMENDING THAT ALL AMERICANS WEAR MASKS.

Your panties are in a twist because Trump said (1) a national mandate from the President was not something he could support since we as Americans have freedom and (2) some people wear masks because they are antifa-licking, butt-snuffling, Biden-drooling leftist morons.

Both statements are undeniably true.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Well...I did write:

And I'm not taunting Trump supporters. I'm taunting Trump himself, who for months derided reporters for wearing masks, made light of the virus, said it would be gone in no time, etc.

But yes, he deserves ample praise that after six long months, 3,858,686 positive cases and 141,426 Americans dead, that someone finally got through to him that maybe wearing a mask isn't such a terrible idea. So yes, kudos to the President for doing the right thing, I agree.

When called out for taunting...you reply that you're not...while...taunting...in...your...reply.

God man you're comedy ******* gold.

 

[Tibs]

...some people wear masks because they are antifa-licking, butt-snuffling, Biden-drooling leftist morons.

Sounds like Trump hasn't convinced you wearing a mask is a good idea. You do you.

When called out for taunting...you reply that you're not...while...taunting...in...your...reply.

Who me? I would never taunt any of the friendly, courteous, personable folks on this board. Never ever.

 

[Steelworth]

Who me? I would never taunt any of the friendly, courteous, personable folks on this board. Never ever.

Why are you here if we're all deplorable people?

 

[oneforthebus]

Who me? I would never taunt any of the friendly, courteous, personable folks on this board. Never ever.

My point is if you had an interest in people wearing masks to save lives you wouldn't mock them for possibly changing their minds and wearing them. But I guess displaying your smugness is more important.

 

[Troglodyte]

Holy ****, Trog. I don't have the time at the moment, but just look at that furthest right line, it's in the middle of zero and 1k. That's not around 1,000.

There’s a reason they add seven and 14 day average trends to graphs.

 

[Steelr4evr]

You're beginning to sound like the bloated, orange, deranged clown who (temporarily) resides in the WH.

They all leave within 8 years. You will have 4 more unless they can find a way to force mail in voting across the board. Then we will probably have a war.

 

[Troglodyte]

If you donated to the site, we might actually consider donating some of the proceeds to a pair of bifocals for you. But you don't, so you'll remain blind.

Deaths:
July 1 - 676
July 2 - 687
July 3 - 626
July 4 - 266
July 5 - 263
July 6 - 378
July 7 - 993
July 8 - 891
July 9 - 961
July 10 - 848
July 11 - 732
July 12 - 381
July 13 - 465
July 14 - 936
July 15 - 1,002
July 16 - 963
July 17 - 946
July 18 - 813
July 19 - 412
July 20 - 545

That's an average of 689 deaths daily in July. Not increasing to 1,000. In fact, the absolute data shows a decrease in deaths in the past 5 days. We topped 1,000 once in July. Once. We topped 1,000 deaths FOUR times in June.

Keep it coming Floggy.

LOL! Assuming your head didn’t explode and you’re able to answer, what do you make of Trump saying it’s going to get worse before it gets better?