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Jameis Winston to the Steelers? Not Likely, but a Possibility

Reading these 3 pages,kind of interesting. Bridgewater signed last year with the Saints for 7 million. I can’t imagine Jamis doing less than that. One thing not mentioned once is how would our starting QB feel about this signing if it happened? I seriously doubt Big Ben would be jumping for joy.
 
Just about everyone looks at Winston's interception number last year, and already has their minds made up. While this is indeed a concerning number of turnovers, you have to understand that the guy attempted 626 passes last seaon. Still a high INT percentage at 4.8%, but if you take a look at his career percentage, it's 3.5%, or slightly less than one percent higher than our future HOF quarterback at 2.6. So extrapolating out to a more "normal" amount of attempts of around 500 in a full season, Jameis would throw 4-5 more interceptions on average than Ben might. I can live with that.

The number that jumped off the page for me was Winston's yards per attempt in 2019 of 8.2, a stat that would rank him #1 as a career number in the modern era (ahead of Steve Young and Kurt Warner, at 8.0 and 7.9, respectively), and a single-season figure Ben has only eclipsed twice in his career after posting 8.9 in each of his first two incredibly efficient years. Further research yields a career YPA for Winston of 7.7, which ranks him #13 on the all-time list, right behind Bart Starr, Ben, Philip Rivers, and Johnny Unitas at 7.8, and just ahead of the likes of Aaron Rodgers, Dan Fouts, and Peyton Manning.

At the right price, I'd bring the guy in a heartbeat to be the backup for now, and see what happens with Ben. He has enough talent to be a productive NFL starter. Not too sure I can say that about the backups the Steelers currently employ.
 
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Steelmann said:
Reading these 3 pages,kind of interesting. Bridgewater signed last year with the Saints for 7 million. I can’t imagine Jamis doing less than that. One thing not mentioned once is how would our starting QB feel about this signing if it happened? I seriously doubt Big Ben would be jumping for joy.
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I would assume Rudolph would be more upset. Ben would probably learn from the way he has handled things in the past and how it has bitten him in the ***. Stay quiet and let management build the team would probably be the response this time around. Maybe a stronger presence at QB would push the competition level in Ben as well.
 
Peyton Manning had a 26TD 28INT season
Farve had a 19TD - 24INT season, also had seasons with: 22-23, 20-29, 18-18, 22-22, before finishing his career with a 11-19 performance
Elway 22TD - 23INT + 3 more seasons he threw more INTs than TDs
Ben had an 18TD - 23INT year

Good QBs can have years where they throw more INTs, but QBs that are willing to go for TDs, instead of throwing the ball away, win more often than they lose.
 
I think after the starting jobs dried up the Steelers would have been one of 2 or 3 spots that would have been very inviting in terms of a fragile (old) starter or a not very good one. But they spent their money so it seems they are happy with Rudolph. Winston will only be on a one year deal wherever he goes. If Ben is done this season, he will be available next.
 
Not saying I want Winston as I haven't given it much thought but I saw him play a good bit this year. He was always playing from behind. Typically, it seemed, by the end of the first quarter or half, he was airing the ball out a ton. Now, he did throw a good many of his picks early, which helped them get behind. But, he almost always brought them back and either won the game or had a good shot at winning the game. Dude has a cannon for an arm and can throw a ton of times a game, if needed. With the right system and coaching, there may be potential there. He probably wants starters money but if he was willing to take less, especially for 2 years while he learned behind Ben, it might do him some good and it might be worth it. But, my guess is this a moot point as he is going to want way more than we can afford even as a backup.
 
Does San Diego still need a QB? What about Denver, are they sold on Drew Lock?

I don't think he'll get the chance to look good in black and gold.
 
For the money Winston would cost we could bring in a starting G and a complementary WR in a year that signing vets is very important.


Why? because more than likely there will be no training camp so rookies will be behind the eight ball so to speak this season.

I would rather have a WR that can stretch the field and a starting G over bringing in hide your crab legs.

Now do those other two things and get him to accept a cheap contract then we will talk.

But for all three things to happen? highly unlikely and we know that a contract or two as a result would have to be lowered either by restructure or extension.
 
TDX27 said:
Not saying I want Winston as I haven't given it much thought but I saw him play a good bit this year. He was always playing from behind. Typically, it seemed, by the end of the first quarter or half, he was airing the ball out a ton. Now, he did throw a good many of his picks early, which helped them get behind. But, he almost always brought them back and either won the game or had a good shot at winning the game. Dude has a cannon for an arm and can throw a ton of times a game, if needed. With the right system and coaching, there may be potential there. He probably wants starters money but if he was willing to take less, especially for 2 years while he learned behind Ben, it might do him some good and it might be worth it. But, my guess is this a moot point as he is going to want way more than we can afford even as a backup.
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Right on point. His OL was also ****. Poor kid had to make some quick throws and who of wouldn't put the ball up for 50-50 grabs with Evans and Godwin as your WRs with pressure in your face? I would love the Steelers to grab him.
 
Tibs said:
I'm going to respectfully disagree. Now, I'm not arguing that we should sign the kid, but the fact is this. He's only 26 years old, seemingly in good physical shape, plenty of talent and promise, but has the dark cloud of his 30-pick season hanging over his head. The QB market has pretty much dried up, at least for a starting spot.

So if you're Winston, you look around the league and check your options. With the Steelers, you have a preeminent franchise, unparalled stability with rock solid ownership, a rabid fan base, competent management and coaching in place. A team that's shown a willingness to sign their franchise QB to 100M+ contracts. A team with a 38-year old, future HOF QB taking a last shot to try to get another ring. Ben will play maybe a season or two.

Ben has been anything but durable past few years. Winston would be a play away from getting on the field at a moments notice. Long term, he'd have a chance to redeem himself, get back on solid footing, lock down the starting spot and be in line for a handsome payday.

So I wouldn't completely rule out a player like Winston signing a team-friendly deal to get in on all that.

But in this day and age, he'll probably take the best offer he can get and run with it.
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I would add that the offensive system we play in Pittsburgh is very similar to what Bruce Arians does in Tampa Bay.

He had Leftiwich as an offensive coordinator. I guarantee the "languages" of these offense are pretty damn close, even if Fichtner and Roethlisberger have streamlined the playbook a bit.

Honestly, if salary cap dollars weren't an issue this would be a slam dunk to sign him. It makes too much sense. Especially now that the market on QB starters is dwindling.

I kind of hope they find a way because the now that the new CBA is signed, that cap will go up a lot over the next couple of seasons. Hopefully enough to get us out of cap hell and duct tape the team together for a good run.

I'd feel a lot better about our hopes if we had Winston because I know our offense won't drop to dead last in the league if Roethlisberger had to miss 4 games or something.
 
slashsteel said:
For the money Winston would cost we could bring in a starting G and a complementary WR in a year that signing vets is very important.


Why? because more than likely there will be no training camp so rookies will be behind the eight ball so to speak this season.

I would rather have a WR that can stretch the field and a starting G over bringing in hide your crab legs.

Now do those other two things and get him to accept a cheap contract then we will talk.

But for all three things to happen? highly unlikely and we know that a contract or two as a result would have to be lowered either by restructure or extension.
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We are all living hypothetical Slash .... don't go getting all sensible on us

Good points about the shortened training camp possibility and value of experience......props ...... but stop picking on people with crabs already ....JW puts his hands under Center not the other way around
 
TDX27 said:
Not saying I want Winston as I haven't given it much thought but I saw him play a good bit this year. He was always playing from behind. Typically, it seemed, by the end of the first quarter or half, he was airing the ball out a ton. Now, he did throw a good many of his picks early, which helped them get behind. But, he almost always brought them back and either won the game or had a good shot at winning the game. Dude has a cannon for an arm and can throw a ton of times a game, if needed. With the right system and coaching, there may be potential there. He probably wants starters money but if he was willing to take less, especially for 2 years while he learned behind Ben, it might do him some good and it might be worth it. But, my guess is this a moot point as he is going to want way more than we can afford even as a backup.
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This is pretty on-point. Winston has been running for his life behind a bad Bucs line (Hello Tom Brady!) and trying to make things happen. Behind a better OL and with a defence that even managed to keep Duck and Mason in games I think that would take the pressure off to do it all himself.

I think it will be a moot point due to our cap but he could put himself in a position to succeed by swallowing his ego, sitting for a bit and replacing Ben in the long term. He's earned $46M over the years so it'll be interesting to see whether he goes to Denver or somewhere for an extra 500k or whether he is thinking of the future and the best situation for him.
 
Didn’t he get suspended for sexual assault of an uber driver. League min 2 year with incentives and therapy. He’d never sign


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Come on Slash, Crab Legs are DELICIOUS!!!

Not saying what he did was right.

But I understand!
 
Cope said:
Come on Slash, Crab Legs are DELICIOUS!!!

Not saying what he did was right.

But I understand!
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I also love crab legs. As of yet I've never shoplifted them though.

With the addition of the groping of the uber driver he's shaping up to be quite a winner. I know I know people make mistakes. Judge yet not and all. Just little misunderstandings I'm sure. Character counts.
 
Don;t forget the rape charges the Tallahassee police swept under the rug where Winston admitted to having sex with a woman after his friends did in his apartment under more than shady circumstances. This was after other sexual incidents at school and ten he stands up in the school cafeteria and yells out **** her in the *****. The guy is a piece of ****.

https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/201...on-a-table-at-fsu-and-yelled-f-k-her-right-in
 
You know.... if we can't come to a long term deal with Bud Dupree, there is still time to trade Dupree, get a good pick, free up his $16 million in used cap space AND sign Winston and a patch OLB (Markus Golden is still available).
 
deljzc said:
You know.... if we can't come to a long term deal with Bud Dupree, there is still time to trade Dupree, get a good pick, free up his $16 million in used cap space AND sign Winston and a patch OLB (Markus Golden is still available).
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First off he would have to sign the tag before we can even trade him. Highly unlikely especially if he’s not guaranteed a deal with the new team. Then with the money we are not signing Winston and a rookie OLB won’t come in and give us what we are loosing in Dupree.
 
Here is what I've never understood about the Publix crab leg heist. He literely walks in between three or four people in line at the counter. There is no exchange. Yes I would like 2 pounds of crab legs. The employee just hands him the package. I bet it said dog bones $0.00. That was as much an NCAA violation as it was a theft. Hell I used to work grocery before my career. I used to get Prime Rib for ground beef price. Lots of people did. Now I get it. I wasn't a Heisman candidate bound to make a 25 million dollar contract.
 
deljzc said:
You know.... if we can't come to a long term deal with Bud Dupree, there is still time to trade Dupree, get a good pick, free up his $16 million in used cap space AND sign Winston and a patch OLB (Markus Golden is still available).
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Do you really see this as a true possibility? Of it actually happening?
 
stillwright said:
Do you really see this as a true possibility? Of it actually happening?
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I don't

BUT if they truly put on the non exclusive tag someone could snatch up Dupree. Then a Golden would become suddenly attractive.

i do not believe the Steelers would initiate said trade, it would be more of a fall back option if someone swooped in on him and the Steelers didn't want to match being a pricey contract.

I am not convinced Winston would be a bring in at that point though.
 
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