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When was the last time a QB looked bad/avg well into year 2, and still turned out to

I don't see the offense doing ANY better with Duck in there. No Juju, no Conner, no DJ. Mason was trying to throw to guys they just brought up from the PS. Ben would have had issues moving the ball last night. Duck certainly isn't going to bring anything to the offense that Mason doesn't. And it all comes down to the plays that the moron OC sends in there to begin with. Should have been fired WEEKS ago, as far as I'm concerned, he's the only one that has been exposed this year.
 
WarEagle said:
Agree. Bench Rudolph until a foggy Christmas Eve.
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LOL...I see what you did there.

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I guess I don't get how a fan base, here, on twitter, on sports talk radio in Pittsburgh drag their best offensive player in franchise history, first ballot HOF QB down to try to make a 2nd year QB look good.

Bleeder, Ben also had 5 4th quarter come backs, and 4 game winning drives as a rookie.
 
Bey 1st Rd, Bryant 4th,. The rest were 3rd Rd picks. Not to mention it was 2 time Superbowl winner Ben , not first year starter, Mason.
 
O line was no help to a struggling QB who is trying to aim the ball, not throw it. Given time to plant he throws a decent ball but the game is too fast for him at this point.

That feel for the game is innate, and Mason doesn't have it.
 
Looks to me like the All Pro Oline is looking pretty bad right now.

I blame them for the O troubles more than anything.
 
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Not defending Rudolph, but Ben actually looked just as bad in game #1 against Cleveland last year. And in that game we had a running game, pass protection and 9 receptions by AB.
 
Avoid_Lloyd said:
Payton Manning, Troy Aikman, Bradshaw all looked bad in their early games. Mason started his 7th game last night. He took some good steps vs. the Rams, last night he was really bad last night, especially trying to lead them from behind in the 4th quarter in obvious passing situations. Aikman made a great point about his footwork against the rush, that hasn't improved at all since college.

I do think its worth mentioning Mason is playing with a bad offense and a bad play caller, much like an Aikmnan early on. I'm not defending how he played last night or comparing him to Aikman, Bradshaw or anyone of that level tho.

No QB we have or that we could get makes them any better than a wild card team at the absolute best.

They might as well let Rudolph play a few more games minimum, be sure there is a full eval on him. I know its hard to watch, but I think we forget Duck only threw yhe ball down the field like 3 times vs. the chargers anbd one of those passes was a horrible pic that gave the chargers a chance to win that game. Duck can have the the last 2-3 games of the year if Rudolph still struggles, and **** 32 year old kneeling ***** Kaep
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Thats my feeling too, more or less... look, no matter what they are giving Ben a shot to comeback and play next year.... if by some miracle mason suddenly throws for 300 yards a game the rest of the way and we win the Super Bowl, Ben is still getting the job back next year... if he can play well and the arm is fine, then he will be back the year after as well... so it’s likely everything long term is three and a half seasons away... Hodges has a slew of things he has to work on too, and he is further behind on knowing the offense ... use this season to get Rudolph as much experience as you can... compile all of the coachable weaknesses, and hire an honest to goodness qb coach to work with the young guys...

Last night they tried to open things up a bit and it failed... you see how he responds and go from there... if he does better next time against the brownnies then ypu let him keep going... if he is stalled then maybe ypu let one of the other two take a turn...

I think they are convinced that he is gonna develop into the guy and they aren’t knee jerk reacting like fans do..
 
Coryea said:
I guess I don't get how a fan base, here, on twitter, on sports talk radio in Pittsburgh drag their best offensive player in franchise history, first ballot HOF QB down to try to make a 2nd year QB look good.

Bleeder, Ben also had 5 4th quarter come backs, and 4 game winning drives as a rookie.
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Ben is a hall of famer and one of the greatest qbs in history... the reality is we could use a first rounder every year for a decade and never come close to replicating him... this is about developing a qb that can start... not catching lightning in a bottle twice...
 
Bradshaw 4 time SB champion HOF and horrid in his early play. Pittsburgh fans wanted to ditch him too. Where would the team be without him? Ironic.
 
Steelin said:
Bradshaw 4 time SB champion HOF and horrid in his early play. Pittsburgh fans wanted to ditch him too. Where would the team be without him? Ironic.
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Its not just Pittsburgh fans.. every fanbase gets super impatient with qbs... its the hardest position in pro sports...and colleges don’t teach it well enough anymore...
 
madinsomniac said:
Its not just Pittsburgh fans.. every fanbase gets super impatient with qbs... its the hardest position in pro sports...and colleges don’t teach it well enough anymore...
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Steeler fans seem to have the highest expectations and the itchiest trigger finger.
 
madinsomniac said:
Plenty... Drew Brees was abysmal in his third year. The chargers have up on him, drafted Rivers, then it clicked
Tom Brady had a lot of the same knocks on him the Rudolph does right now including not having magnificent arm strength.... his third year(second starting) he had a 6.3 ypa, went 9-7 and missed the playoffs. Plenty of people thought rodgers was going to bust cause he wasn’t nfl ready coming out of the draft... he sat for years behind favre working on his reads...

Last night was the first time the pressure got to Rudolph and he looked horrid... but no one is getting open, there are tons of drops, the only true deep threat caught his first pass of the season last night, route running isn’t really precise, we have no run game at all, and the oline takes turns allowing immediate pressure.

They needca high end qb coach to work on footwork for mason... thats a must... we have none because ben didn’t need it.

Mason had a horrible night, and eventually that was going to happen. 90% of first year starters blow monkey balls... we should have just kept it moderate instead of telling him to pass 50 times against abetter pass d than run D...
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uh, no. not even close. mason is on a plane of sucktitude that is FAR BEYOND any of those players you mentioned. he is what he is at this point. bill walsh could wake from the dead and try to be his qb and it wouldn't help. he ******* SUCKS.
 
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insaniti said:
I don't see the offense doing ANY better with Duck in there. No Juju, no Conner, no DJ. Mason was trying to throw to guys they just brought up from the PS. Ben would have had issues moving the ball last night. Duck certainly isn't going to bring anything to the offense that Mason doesn't. And it all comes down to the plays that the moron OC sends in there to begin with. Should have been fired WEEKS ago, as far as I'm concerned, he's the only one that has been exposed this year.
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So you're saying you'd kept him long after Tomlin should have been let go??????



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Still waiting for the special cooch only forum
 
The time was halftime of last nights game to bring on Duck, i called for it after the 1st qtr so you butches can quit trying to steal my stuff
 
Spike said:
The time was halftime of last nights game to bring on Duck, i called for it after the 1st qtr so you butches can quit trying to steal my stuff
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saying rudolph needs to be benched isn't some brilliant revelation, so settle down, einstein, all of us with eyeballs are going to be saying it.
 
The only reason to start duck is if the organization has made up it's mind about Rudolph not being a long term starter. I don't believe that to be the case. If you have any inkling that Rudolph may one day be the franchise QB you have to keep him in there. The OL wasn't protecting him. The running game was non-existent. And the WRs were dropping like flies. Yes, he has some issues. But duck isn't coming in to save the day. He'll have the same OL, WRs and RBs.
 
Yep time to head down to Atlanta and bring us home a Kaepernick!

I demand entertainment
 
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