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Bell might not return in 2018, advised he won’t be paid while on exempt list

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https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rush_long_single_season.htm

but then Isaiah Crowell had one for 85. By your **** logic, Crowell is a better RB.
when was the last time one of your **** RBs in mASSachusetts had an 80+ yard run? Gotta go all the way back to 1983 to see Robert Weathers.

This season, not one RB has ripped off an 80+ yard run. HoF Isaiah Crowel and kerryon Johnson both have 77. I'm not good with numbers, but I think that is less than 80+.

Todd Gurley? longest of 29yards. Elliot, 41. Kamara 49. David Johnson and his new contract 21 (3.2 ypc btw).

2017. TWO RB had runs of 80+ yards (Gordon and Fournett

2016 ONE Crowell

2015 TWO Peterson and Martin

2014 Six One of them was Bell. One was a QB (Kapernick)

Oddly, top RB's do not seem to, routinely, rip off 80+ yard runs. Weird.
 
This season, not one RB has ripped off an 80+ yard run. HoF Isaiah Crowel and kerryon Johnson both have 77. I'm not good with numbers, but I think that is less than 80+.

Todd Gurley? longest of 29yards. Elliot, 41. Kamara 49. David Johnson and his new contract 21 (3.2 ypc btw).

2017. TWO RB had runs of 80+ yards (Gordon and Fournett

2016 ONE Crowell

2015 TWO Peterson and Martin

2014 Six One of them was Bell. One was a QB (Kapernick)

Oddly, top RB's do not seem to, routinely, rip off 80+ yard runs. Weird.



We had a QB who did it along with an 80+ yard TD pass and a 80+ yard punt.......................................................... just saying




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Overrated in what sense? He's considered a top 3 back in the league which he has been the past few seasons.

He certainly overrated his own worth but that doesn't detract from him performing at a top level the past few seasons.

He was replaced by Connor on that top 3 list.


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Just out of curiosity,say for the sake of argument that he shows up on the last possible day he can,and the Steelers do the two week thing.....what happens if he does show up way out of shape? Can the Steelers suspend him legally without pay? Can they make him pee in a cup?
 
The Steelers could sit him a number of ways. They can rescind the offer making him a UFA. They have a two week control and then they must pay him. They cannot suspend him without pay and it's only the league that can test him.
 
If what you say is true then YES you are right about BELL jacking himself severely. I thought next year's tag number was the average of the highest 5 paid or 125% of this years salary pending which is higher. Clarification needed




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The top 5 average this year will be around 6 million or so depending on when Bell shows up, and his number for this year will be 6 to 8 million-ish.
 
This season, not one RB has ripped off an 80+ yard run. HoF Isaiah Crowel and kerryon Johnson both have 77. I'm not good with numbers, but I think that is less than 80+.

Todd Gurley? longest of 29yards. Elliot, 41. Kamara 49. David Johnson and his new contract 21 (3.2 ypc btw).

2017. TWO RB had runs of 80+ yards (Gordon and Fournett

2016 ONE Crowell

2015 TWO Peterson and Martin

2014 Six One of them was Bell. One was a QB (Kapernick)

Oddly, top RB's do not seem to, routinely, rip off 80+ yard runs. Weird.

I didn’t look it up, but 80 yard runs aren’t very common, are they?


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Duh, it happens all the time!
 
The Steelers could sit him a number of ways. They can rescind the offer making him a UFA. They have a two week control and then they must pay him. They cannot suspend him without pay and it's only the league that can test him.

No way the team rescinds that tag.

Not a chance in hell.
 
He's not currently an NFL employee so no he's not being tested. I would hope that he's not dumb enough to be doing drugs just before coming back to the team. The whole delay is to avoid being traded to a team that he doesn't ant to go to. He wants the whole free agency razzmatazz being wined and dined and told how fabulous he is and how wanted he is. So with the two week roster exemption, he will come back, do the bare minimum and then be available for the final six games to be accredited for an NFL year.

While I think he has either received some bad advice or has made some poor decisions you can't blame him for looking out for himself. The downside is that many teams will be thinking twice about just how much to give this guy particularly when they see Connor doing an A- impression of Bell back there for the price of a third round pick.

IMO, if Bell was smart he'd get his agent to organise a trade to the Eagles. They badly need a quality back and he would be playing for a contender. Maybe he just wants to go somewhere with 0% state tax? Who knows what motivates him?

Slaine I’ve heard writers from PPG, Trib and other beat writers say he still is required to be tested. Checking out the NFL/NFLPA Policy of Substance Abuse, it states;

“The illegal use of drugs and the abuse of prescription drugs, over-the-counter drugs, and alcohol (hereinafter “Substances of Abuse”) is prohibited [1] for Players [2] in the NFL. Moreover, the use of alcohol may be prohibited for individual Players in certain situations where clinically indicated in accordance with the terms of this Policy...

[1] The NFL and the NFLPA prohibit Players from the illegal use, possession, or distribution of drugs, including but not limited to cocaine; marijuana and synthetic cannabinoids; opiates and opioids; methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA); and phencyclidine (PCP). The abuse of prescription drugs, over-the-counter drugs, and alcohol is also prohibited. For example, the use of amphetamines and substances that induce similar effects, absent a verified and legitimate need for appropriate dosages of such substances to treat existing medical conditions, is prohibited.

[2] Except as otherwise noted in this Policy, the term “Players” includes all present and future Players in the NFL described as being in the bargaining unit as set forth in the preamble to the CBA as well as all Players attending the annual scouting combines.”

CBA preamble states:

“2. All professional football players who have been previously employed by a member club of the National Football League who are seeking employment with an NFL Club”

Bell, was employed and is seeking employment...so he qualifies for continued testing based on the NFL’s Intervention Program and CBA.

Regardless of all the rhetoric from Bell, his agent the media, I am seriously wondering if he just doesn’t want to play the game any longer. He sure is RE-acting like some one who doesn’t have the desire.


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No way the team rescinds that tag.

Not a chance in hell.
I agree 100% but the post was questioning whether they could suspend without pay cause he is not in shape. I played out all the possible cards the Steelers have. Suspending him without pay is not one.
 
I agree 100% but the post was questioning whether they could suspend without pay cause he is not in shape. I played out all the possible cards the Steelers have. Suspending him without pay is not one.

If he comes in out of shape, they "COULD" also put him on the P.U.P. list, correct? That would require him to sit at least 6 weeks? And they wouldn't be required to take him off. Meaning, basically, Bell doesn't see the field this season and doesn't get to audition for other teams. After the season, the same tags would then be available to them (exclusive, non-exclusive and transition). If I'm off base here, let me know.
 
If he comes in out of shape, they "COULD" also put him on the P.U.P. list, correct? That would require him to sit at least 6 weeks? And they wouldn't be required to take him off. Meaning, basically, Bell doesn't see the field this season and doesn't get to audition for other teams. After the season, the same tags would then be available to them (exclusive, non-exclusive and transition). If I'm off base here, let me know.

I think once he signs the tag before the deadline to do so, he will be higher price-tag eligible regardless.........
 
If he comes in out of shape, they "COULD" also put him on the P.U.P. list, correct? That would require him to sit at least 6 weeks? And they wouldn't be required to take him off. Meaning, basically, Bell doesn't see the field this season and doesn't get to audition for other teams. After the season, the same tags would then be available to them (exclusive, non-exclusive and transition). If I'm off base here, let me know.

Id imagine hed have to actually fail a routine physical and id doubt that happens.
 
Man I just want this ended. so tired of talking about Bell
 
If he comes in out of shape, they "COULD" also put him on the P.U.P. list, correct? That would require him to sit at least 6 weeks? And they wouldn't be required to take him off. Meaning, basically, Bell doesn't see the field this season and doesn't get to audition for other teams. After the season, the same tags would then be available to them (exclusive, non-exclusive and transition). If I'm off base here, let me know.

Buckeye, you can only be placed on the PUP list before the regular season. Usually if around training camp, is when players are put on PUP list. Saves a roster space.


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The top 5 average this year will be around 6 million or so depending on when Bell shows up, and his number for this year will be 6 to 8 million-ish.


NO, I thinkl it is the top 5 in the league.......Not top 5 at his position..............




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If he comes in out of shape, they "COULD" also put him on the P.U.P. list, correct? That would require him to sit at least 6 weeks? And they wouldn't be required to take him off. Meaning, basically, Bell doesn't see the field this season and doesn't get to audition for other teams. After the season, the same tags would then be available to them (exclusive, non-exclusive and transition). If I'm off base here, let me know.



SORRY but I don't think this is right. In order for HIM to be deamed out of shape, a third party Doctor must examine him and determine if he can play football or not. If he can not then the NFLPA will step in at that time to argue. ONLY if the third party Doctor deams unfit would the STEELERS have a possible retaliation approach. CHEESY as hell but that's how I understand it. The key here is the third party not the team or BELL.



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Slaine I’ve heard writers from PPG, Trib and other beat writers say he still is required to be tested.

Fair enough - as someone not under contract that seems a bit weird but the CBA is pretty convoluted.
 
I'm pretty confident that football historians will look back at Bell's career one day and put him in the category of the guys who should have had HOF careers and didn't because wasted it with horrible career decisions.
 
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The exclusive tag might be but the transition tag is at his position. At least, I believe that to be correct from what I've read.

I believe when you franchise tag a player a 3rd time in a row is when the top 5 at all positions come into play. So if Bell reports this year then next off-season if we would franchise him again that scenario would come into play.
 
I'm pretty confident that football historians will look back at Bell's career one day and put him in the category of the guys who should have had HOF careers and didn't because wasted it with horrible career decisions.

The biggest issue with Bell is he has changed his demands so much over the 2 years. I don't know if he knows what he really wants. The Steelers franchised him this off-season because I believe they truly felt like they could sign him long term. Bell's demands seemed to keep going up. Add one point Bell himself states they are really close. At the end off negotiations the Steelers bump up their offer(so reports state) in a last resort shot at signing him. Bell balks. I hope they place the transition tag on him next off-season. They probably should have this past off-season but as I said earlier. If they truly thought they could sign him long term then the route they took was the correct one.
 
I believe when you franchise tag a player a 3rd time in a row is when the top 5 at all positions come into play. So if Bell reports this year then next off-season if we would franchise him again that scenario would come into play.

There was a good article about it that I believe I posted a link to in one of these threads. I think it was a week or two ago.
 
The exclusive tag might be but the transition tag is at his position. At least, I believe that to be correct from what I've read.



I'm talking them "tagging" him a third time................. So let's say he shows up week 9, gets two weeks off no pay, then is available for the remaining six games............ He fulfills the tag contractual duties but PITTSBURGH has an option to tag him one last time or a "third" time so It gets real expensive. That was what I was reffering to on the top 5 salaries in the league or 125% of last contract,... Which ever is higher.



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