One of those commercials is on right now about "The Settlers."
I'm thinking that describes the Steelers' first pick.
I'm thinking that describes the Steelers' first pick.
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Artie Buens is no Antonio Brown, he is a just a mediocre prospect while Brown is a proven NFL stud, apples to oranges. We reached and drafted a need when better players at the same position were available later and we could have picked up a 3rd, you know since we gave up a 5th for a good CB that Tomlin stupidly sat om the bench all year behind the worst starting CB in thr NFL , Blake. I have no faith in Tomlin's ability to either discern or develop corner backs and his history in the NFL shows he is poor at both.
Given how badly they've fared at drafting CBs since Ike Taylor, that's scary.
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Just What better corners were available? While I did like Alexander, I felt these two were pretty close so I would've been fine with either. Also, not quite sure how they were going to manage to get that extra third because you seem very reluctant to acknowledge that it's been stated the Steelers turned Denver down.
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The 3rd would have come from Denver that they turned down.Alexander is a lot better player than Burns, Burns will be a bust, he has little explosion, is stiff and is awful in space, kind of sucks he is a press corner on a team that doesn't press. If course by trying to use him to press we have a small zone corner on the other side ,Gay, who can't press, typical Tomlin, just not a good DB guru, his alleged strong suit.
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when Brown was taken, NO ONE knew who the **** he was. NO ONE. JAG from a small school with very little realistic chance of making an NFL roster... which is why he was picked in the 6th ******* round.
some of you ************* need to chill.
let's play a game...
suppose you're picking for a team. you're on the clock. a guy is available whom no one really knows a lot about, but people say he's a first round talent. he's also a position of need, but you also have needs elsewhere. particularly at linebacker. your team is known for it's defense. you get a call to trade down a few spots and you honestly look at the available talent. there's the LB, as well as quite a few positions with a wealth of talent - NT, WR, G, LT - all positions you could probably make considerable use of. As well as a guy at the same position as the aforementioned small school guy with first round talent.
do you accept the trade down, as there is quite literally a **** ton of talent available? You'd net a few extra picks, and are still picking in the first round.
or do you bite the bullet and take a chance on the small school guy, ignoring the chance to add picks?
if you take the trade, you've just missed out on Ben Roethlisberger.
but you can choose from Vince Wilfork, Jonathan Vilma, Tommie Harris, Vernon Carey or Steven Jackson.
or your next best player at the same position ... JP ******* Losman.
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I agree.
Teams/picks I would be most excited about as a fan:
Eagles/Wentz @ #2
Jaguars/Ramsey @ #5
49ers/Buckner @ #7
Buccaneers/Hargreaves @ #11 (and picking up a 4th round pick)
Saints/Rankins @ #12
Dolphins/Tunsil @ #13
Redskins/Doctson @ #22 (only negative might be....)
Vikings/Treadwell @ #23
Those are the only picks I consider solid "A" selections in the first round. All the others have some question marks that would knock their grades down (such as Cincinnati getting value in William Jackson but after picking Dre Kirkpatrick AND Darqueze Dennard as 1st rounders in the past three seasons?)
That also doesn't mean I think picks like Bosa, Elliott, Apple, Joseph, Decker, Lawson, Jackson or Butler aren't good players. They are and they all have huge potential. I just think when you looked at the board, needs, risk/reward analysis all those picks something was off or there was potential lost value.
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I wanna take a quick moment to apologize for the above post from last night. I know that Kevin Colbert probably couldn't give two ***** of my opinion if he even DID read this board, lol, but that was a very ugly thing for me to say, and I'm sorry for it.
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This is some really dumb **** to say. Was Antonio Brown a "proven NFL stud" on draft day? No. He was a mid round pick.
All that matters is CAN ARTIE PLAY. And we won't know that for some time. He's got good triangle numbers and good character. That is, as Coach Tomlin says, good clay to work with.
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It's a nice 3 player offense with Bridgewater and AP. They won their division last year, and I think as the QB grows up that team becomes dangerous on the frozen lakes of the North.
They get no benefit from turning in the pick right now. If another team wants Lynch, and realizes Denver is working the phones, they may say, "Damn, we need pick #25" and offer a very good return for the pick.
You simply foreclose that possibility by sprinting to the stage with the pick.
And as to the idea that the Steelers "knew they had their guy" and did not need to wait ... they did the same @#$%ing thing with the Jarvis Jones pick, and everybody but the Steelers had serious doubts that he was worth a #17 selection. Therefore, the "they had their guy" argument just does not mean anything to me.
Don't know why I read this and bust out laughing..hilarious
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It's odd because we're the only team that does it. And we do it consistently year-in, year-out.
If it was the "correct" way to use your draft clock, I would think most other teams would be doing the same thing, but they don't. Most seem to wait. Most seem to see who might call. The Steelers are the only team that doesn't.
That concerns me. Not a lot. It's not the end of the world. But it's odd and everyone here knows it because they are the only ones that do it. There has to be a logical reason 95% of all draft picks and teams use up their clock. I doubt all the other teams are colluding to make the draft last longer just for the hell of it.
Just saving face.
Yep.
No team is going to say, "Damn, we did not want this guy, would much rather have the other guy but he was snagged so we wound up with ... what the @##$% is his name again? Well, ****, I guess we'll have to make do with what's-his-face."
So the fact that they say they "loved" the pick and $4 will get you a latte at Starbucks.
But ... what if they say it BEFORE they make the pick ... all of those saying "just saving face" ignore the fact that Dulac said that Colbert let slip that he thought Burns would be there for them ON WEDNESDAY. Ya know, a full day BEFORE they made the pick. Hell, if Kevin Colbert knew before the draft that he'd have to save face because the Bengals picked the player they wanted, I want 2 minutes with him so I can get the Powerball numbers.
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Glad you're enjoyng yourself
Sorry bro I just pictured you going nuts lol
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Lol its all good, i shouldve added a smiley, i meant that with good intentions lol. I was a bit "buzzed" last night, got a bit emotional lol
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The ******* Raiders got my pick, Calhoun. So dammit.
Solid draft though, so far. We ditched Billings, which is a good thing. Schematically he just doesn't fit what we do here anymore. We need nifty guys with feet that won't get cut blocked, and Billings is not that guy.
Good job taking a hitting safety over a soft cover guy. Davis will surprise people with his burst and hitting ability. We've drafted 3 potential starters for our secondary in 2 years.
Now, about that pass rush...
Solid draft though, so far. We ditched Billings, which is a good thing. Schematically he just doesn't fit what we do here anymore. We need nifty guys with feet that won't get cut blocked, and Billings is not that guy.
Good job taking a hitting safety over a soft cover guy. Davis will surprise people with his burst and hitting ability. We've drafted 3 potential starters for our secondary in 2 years.
Now, about that pass rush...
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Didn't they make all cut blocks against the rules or did they not make that change?