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Once again, poor clock management...
Andy Reid must have handled our draft this year.
per Del from his evals
Artie Burns, Miami
Looks the part to be a successful NFL player. Needs some refinement to game but exhibits a lot of traits you like. Size is good, length is very good and shows adequate speed and movement skills. Can play man, bump and off-man and shows some ability in zone. Tackling could be better and needs to show some more urgency in run support. Has nice burst off edge in blitz packages. Likely has a limited ceiling but could be a very good pro. Round 2
Artie Burns, Miami
Looks the part to be a successful NFL player. Needs some refinement to game but exhibits a lot of traits you like. Size is good, length is very good and shows adequate speed and movement skills. Can play man, bump and off-man and shows some ability in zone. Tackling could be better and needs to show some more urgency in run support. Has nice burst off edge in blitz packages. Likely has a limited ceiling but could be a very good pro. Round 2
Per TMC's mock
58th pick-Artie Burns, CB, Miami-I realize Artie Burns has some hype as a potential first rounder, but in the film I watched, he really never jumps off the tape. He is steady and consistent, but not a splash guy that explodes off the film. I think there is a group of top corners that go in the first 40 picks, but after those guys, you have a noticeable gap and Burns is at the top of that second group, along with Kendall Fuller, Will Redmond, and Mac Alexander. It is a flavor thing then and with 4 corners off the board, I think you might see a guy like Alexander/Fuller go early and you get a lull because some DL and WRs fly off the board. Maybe it is wishful thinking, but Redmond and Jalen Mills should be here as well and I like both those guys about as much. I see good value at the end of the second at corner.
58th pick-Artie Burns, CB, Miami-I realize Artie Burns has some hype as a potential first rounder, but in the film I watched, he really never jumps off the tape. He is steady and consistent, but not a splash guy that explodes off the film. I think there is a group of top corners that go in the first 40 picks, but after those guys, you have a noticeable gap and Burns is at the top of that second group, along with Kendall Fuller, Will Redmond, and Mac Alexander. It is a flavor thing then and with 4 corners off the board, I think you might see a guy like Alexander/Fuller go early and you get a lull because some DL and WRs fly off the board. Maybe it is wishful thinking, but Redmond and Jalen Mills should be here as well and I like both those guys about as much. I see good value at the end of the second at corner.
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**** all ya'll hating on Artie Burns cause the Bengirls took your favorite CB. What kind of crap is that? William Jackson III was off the board, stop crying about him, for ****'s sake. 
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I noticed that also. They certainly didn't waste much time in making the pick. I think they were taking CB in the first round no matter what. Not sure if they had Burns ahead of WJIII but they had no problem taking Burns even though some had him as a 2nd rounder.
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DRAFT ANALYSIS:
"Burns is a tall cornerback and he has world-class speed. He's very raw. I know teams with a third-round grade on Burns and others that believe he could end up the best corner in this draft." -- Mike Mayock
"Burns is a tall cornerback and he has world-class speed. He's very raw. I know teams with a third-round grade on Burns and others that believe he could end up the best corner in this draft." -- Mike Mayock
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I don't ******* care where WJIII went, I'm pissed at tombert for not getting that extra 3rd when there were TWO CBs available of similar talent (Burns, Alexander), at least one would be available at 1.31 and everyone here knows it
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OVERVIEW
Burns has been as successful a two-sport athlete as any football player has been in the last 20 years. He came to "The U" with a pedigree on the football field and the track, earning four-star recruit status while winning a state title in the 110 meter hurdles three times during his high school career (he had the top 110 meter and 300 meter hurdles times in the nation in his junior year). Burns translated that dual success in high school to the Hurricanes, winning All-American and All-Conference honors as a hurdler for the track and field squad and becoming one of the top corners in the ACC. Burns played in a reserve role as a freshman in 2013 (17 tackles, two sacks, three pass breakups) before becoming a starter in his sophomore year (40 tackles, six pass breakups). He flourished in 2015, intercepting six passes (most by a Miami player since Sean Taylor had 10 in 2003) and breaking up five others on his way to consensus second-team All-ACC honors. Unfortunately, Burns also suffered a great loss during his junior year, losing his mother after she suffered a heart attack. Since his father has been incarcerated for some time, the University of Miami started a donation fund to help his family get through the rough period -- they raised $40,000 in six hours. It was not surprising, therefore, that he wanted to declare for the 2016 NFL Draft as an early entrant.
PRO DAY RESULTS
Short shuttle: 4.3 seconds
3-cone: 6.96 seconds
Vertical: 33 inches
Broad: 10 feet, 4 inches
Bench: 7 reps of 225 pounds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Premium athlete with long, angular build and preferred blend of size and speed. One of the top 60-meter hurdlers in college track and field. Wakes up every morning with natural ball skills to flip the field. Got hands on high number of targeted throws, including six interceptions this season despite playing in a cornerback rotation. Will bait quarterbacks into trap throws. Has soft hands and catch radius of a receiver when it is time to take the ball away. Possesses brash, cocky demeanor. Length and physicality from press can be extremely disruptive. Burst on the throw is NFL-worthy. When he’s dialed in, has talent to be impactful. Usually finishes when he makes contact as tackler.
WEAKNESSES Tape isn't his best friend. Extremely raw and undisciplined. Leggy and grabby in routes. Flagged for four pass interference and two unsportsmanlike penalties. Upright in backpedal and plays with very little bend. High center of gravity prevents fluid change of direction. Coasts on athleticism and talent over proper technique. Turns motor off and on from game to game, and play can be lackadaisical. Would like to see him attack blockers rather than waiting for running back before disengaging.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 1 or 2
SOURCES TELL US "Tape is just average. Betting on the combine with him and he'll test off the charts. He's got the traits, but he's not ready yet. He's a good kid who has so much to deal with now that his mom has passed." -- NFL personnel executive.
NFL COMPARISON David Amerson
BOTTOM LINE While his tape is average and technique can be non*existent at times, NFL teams often draft on traits at the cornerback spot and assume that coaching will take care of the rest. Burns has length, speed, ball skills and abundant potential. Keep in mind he was limited in his growth at the position thanks to a spring track schedule, but he is still in the infant stages of reaching his pro potential.
Burns has been as successful a two-sport athlete as any football player has been in the last 20 years. He came to "The U" with a pedigree on the football field and the track, earning four-star recruit status while winning a state title in the 110 meter hurdles three times during his high school career (he had the top 110 meter and 300 meter hurdles times in the nation in his junior year). Burns translated that dual success in high school to the Hurricanes, winning All-American and All-Conference honors as a hurdler for the track and field squad and becoming one of the top corners in the ACC. Burns played in a reserve role as a freshman in 2013 (17 tackles, two sacks, three pass breakups) before becoming a starter in his sophomore year (40 tackles, six pass breakups). He flourished in 2015, intercepting six passes (most by a Miami player since Sean Taylor had 10 in 2003) and breaking up five others on his way to consensus second-team All-ACC honors. Unfortunately, Burns also suffered a great loss during his junior year, losing his mother after she suffered a heart attack. Since his father has been incarcerated for some time, the University of Miami started a donation fund to help his family get through the rough period -- they raised $40,000 in six hours. It was not surprising, therefore, that he wanted to declare for the 2016 NFL Draft as an early entrant.
PRO DAY RESULTS
Short shuttle: 4.3 seconds
3-cone: 6.96 seconds
Vertical: 33 inches
Broad: 10 feet, 4 inches
Bench: 7 reps of 225 pounds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Premium athlete with long, angular build and preferred blend of size and speed. One of the top 60-meter hurdlers in college track and field. Wakes up every morning with natural ball skills to flip the field. Got hands on high number of targeted throws, including six interceptions this season despite playing in a cornerback rotation. Will bait quarterbacks into trap throws. Has soft hands and catch radius of a receiver when it is time to take the ball away. Possesses brash, cocky demeanor. Length and physicality from press can be extremely disruptive. Burst on the throw is NFL-worthy. When he’s dialed in, has talent to be impactful. Usually finishes when he makes contact as tackler.
WEAKNESSES Tape isn't his best friend. Extremely raw and undisciplined. Leggy and grabby in routes. Flagged for four pass interference and two unsportsmanlike penalties. Upright in backpedal and plays with very little bend. High center of gravity prevents fluid change of direction. Coasts on athleticism and talent over proper technique. Turns motor off and on from game to game, and play can be lackadaisical. Would like to see him attack blockers rather than waiting for running back before disengaging.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 1 or 2
SOURCES TELL US "Tape is just average. Betting on the combine with him and he'll test off the charts. He's got the traits, but he's not ready yet. He's a good kid who has so much to deal with now that his mom has passed." -- NFL personnel executive.
NFL COMPARISON David Amerson
BOTTOM LINE While his tape is average and technique can be non*existent at times, NFL teams often draft on traits at the cornerback spot and assume that coaching will take care of the rest. Burns has length, speed, ball skills and abundant potential. Keep in mind he was limited in his growth at the position thanks to a spring track schedule, but he is still in the infant stages of reaching his pro potential.
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Miami CB Artie Burns
His stock has skyrocketed since defensive backs coaches have been able to dig into his tape. Burns catches like a wide receiver and is a championship hurdler, so you know he's athletic. The tape and technique are raw and uneven, and Burns appears to coast on his athleticism too often. Great potential, but a projection player with a lower floor.
His stock has skyrocketed since defensive backs coaches have been able to dig into his tape. Burns catches like a wide receiver and is a championship hurdler, so you know he's athletic. The tape and technique are raw and uneven, and Burns appears to coast on his athleticism too often. Great potential, but a projection player with a lower floor.
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Would you trade next years first for Myles Jack?
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Litos, what makes you think they had offers for the pick?
And more importantly, what makes you think they didn't have Burns rated this high to begin with?
**** all ya'll hating on Artie Burns cause the Bengirls took your favorite CB. What kind of crap is that? William Jackson III was off the board, stop crying about him, for ****'s sake.
Maybe not CB. I would have liked Spence, Billings, Nkemdiche, or Alexander. Or a trade down. Lots of other options that would have been more palatable to me.
Well **** ... not a good day for Da 'Burgh ... we pick Artie Burns AND the Pens lose in overtime. The 'shine is done with me. So I'm going to sleep. lol
This isn't Eifert. We passed on Eifert.
This is the Jets moving up ahead of us to grab Revis Island.
This is the Jets moving up ahead of us to grab Revis Island.
It's a good thing that Tombert is all about a players' tape...
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Good one, Swallows!
Artie Burns?! Fock I wanted Jackson