Bryant skips drug test; facing full season suspension
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The steelers will find another receiver.In case you haven't noticed,the steelers are very good at acquiring wide receivers through the draft....Santonio,Wallace,Brown,Sanders!
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He's out the season and lets not debate. After seeing how the patriots, owners, players, and fans reacted after Brady and his deflated balls I for one would hope the Steelers will not play Bryant while he appeals his suspension to show you don't get rewarded for being a moron.
Now last year I was confused by the Sammie Coates draft pick and then Bryant got suspended and I understood it a little more but now I feel the Front Office knew just how stupid Martvais Bryant was and knew it was just a matter of time before he went Josh Gordon on us. Million dollar talent with a ten cent brain.
The question is now does WR become a priority in the draft? Wheaton will likely want a new deal after this year and lets face it besides the Seattle game he has never really lived up to the hopes and expectations we had for him. He's a good slot receiver but not worth what he will demand. Coates is unproven but I suspect we see a lot more of him this year with Bryant out. DHB filled in nicely last year but is 29 and never lived up to his draft status. After that we have a lot of no names. So I don't think this changes our top needs drastically but now I feel we do have to put WR in the mix. I'd say CB, OT, S, and OLB are still the top needs. But do we spend a 4th, 6th or 7th on a WR now?
Now last year I was confused by the Sammie Coates draft pick and then Bryant got suspended and I understood it a little more but now I feel the Front Office knew just how stupid Martvais Bryant was and knew it was just a matter of time before he went Josh Gordon on us. Million dollar talent with a ten cent brain.
The question is now does WR become a priority in the draft? Wheaton will likely want a new deal after this year and lets face it besides the Seattle game he has never really lived up to the hopes and expectations we had for him. He's a good slot receiver but not worth what he will demand. Coates is unproven but I suspect we see a lot more of him this year with Bryant out. DHB filled in nicely last year but is 29 and never lived up to his draft status. After that we have a lot of no names. So I don't think this changes our top needs drastically but now I feel we do have to put WR in the mix. I'd say CB, OT, S, and OLB are still the top needs. But do we spend a 4th, 6th or 7th on a WR now?
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and despite the Gorillas, Gerela wasn't that great either.
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I don't believe one or the other, but I can see how it could be depression. My best friends brother became an alcoholic in his early 20's, later they learned that he was actually dealing with schizophrenia. He is now sober and functioning (able to live independently and work).
Funny this depression has never cropped up during the past two football seasons, and forced him to not show up for a game, or for practice, or for a meeting, etc, etc. He may have depression, but that's just a cover up, he's supposed to check into a rehab clinic as early as of today, but do you go to rehab for depression? He's had trouble with this since high school and can't stop it's a simple as that.
It's not up to the Steelers to help him, I keep hearing fans say they can't cut him, they should help him, why? The dude got a free education, has made good money while here, they've given him the means ($) to get help, something almost all people with an addiction problem don't have.
It's not up to the Steelers to help him, I keep hearing fans say they can't cut him, they should help him, why? The dude got a free education, has made good money while here, they've given him the means ($) to get help, something almost all people with an addiction problem don't have.
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Well some people will hide their depression for YEARS. So it was never reported before. Sure doesn't mean he doesn't have some sort of depression. The young man might not play football ever again. You help him now for his future. Whether football is apart of it or not. Or the NFL can kock him to the curb like they have done to many other of their former athletes.
Only thing matters is the Steelers and the pursuit of 7. How dare he jeopardize our chances.
Money changes things temporarily good or bad. When you have issues they don't disappear just because you come into money unless they are money related. Maybe all it is that he is a weedhead maybe it's more. We don't know. Hopefully he can get it together before its too late.
Money changes things temporarily good or bad. When you have issues they don't disappear just because you come into money unless they are money related. Maybe all it is that he is a weedhead maybe it's more. We don't know. Hopefully he can get it together before its too late.
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Alright, Cheryl is right, I was a bit hard on Martavis.
regarding this...
The psychological aspects of pot addiction are also significant. An entire lifestyle is built around use. That lifestyle is extremely hard to break free of.
So, in that respect one must appreciate how difficult it would be for a young person like Martavis to shed his addiction. (And he IS addicted. This is also one of the major reasons that pot is NOT a harmless drug. While pot does have many beneficial effects for people, it also has quite a few negative aspects as well. Thus, pot really should NOT be legalized for recreational use. Medicinally, fine. A Dr. can certainly determine those cases were pot can help a patient and how it can best be administered.
Alcohol, ironically, while also a very dangerous drug has clearer signals of overuse and clears out of your system more quickly. Booze burns hot and quickly in the human metabolism. Good or bad, there it is. I won't argue that there are a great many traffic collisions caused by alcohol. Of course pot also causes traffic collisions, but there is less data regarding pot usage on the road as pot usage is only now becoming widely accepted. There will be more and more pot-related incidents now that the drug is becoming more publicly accepted.
But I digress. Am I disappointed in Byrant? Of course. Did I expect him to avoid issues with his pot addiction? Not at all. I was completely aware that he is a hopeless addict and that unless he sought out serious help he wasn't going to be able to resolve his addiction problems. Alcohol and pot addiction quite often go hand in hand with depression. I wouldn't be surprised if he IS depressed. Quite likely the pot is either coping mechanism or a causation. Either way, self-medicating is not the answer. If he's depressed he needs to seek the proper medical and psychiatric treatment ahead of time rather than offer the diagnosis as an excuse for his addiction issues. That merely comes off as the excuse it truly is.
Again, hard honesty is Bryant's only friend right now. I do believe the Steeler's should retain him, at minimum contract price. If somebody wants to sign him after his contract expires at a higher rate, super. Let them. In the meantime, I would recommend that the Steelers require Bryant to attend AA/NA meetings as a requirement of his contract weekly paychecks upon his return to the team and active practices and games. If he doesn't like it, he can go elsewhere. While he may consider that unfair, that would be the addiction talking. The kid needs help and he clearly can't provide it himself. He hasn't hit the bottom. I sincerely doubt the "check in to rehab" is anything more than a PR move to attempt to salvage what's left of his career at this point. If the Steelers truly wish to help him do so, they need to help him realize that THEY at least take his addiction situation seriously.
That's my opinion anyway. He is gifted, but that and .50 cents will buy him some coffee at his next AA meeting. And that's the cold hard truth from a fellow who grew up with two recovering alcoholic parents who didn't stop drinking until I was 7 or 8. You have to lose a whole lot before you realize your life is just too ****** to continue the way it is and that there's some stuff more important than today. Bryant needs some help focusing on a whole bunch of tomorrows down the line. A HUGE part of the problem is people telling him pot just isn't that big a deal.
Well, pretty clearly it's a pretty big ******* deal to Bryant.
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You're wrong. Absolutely wrong. Pot is extraordinarily addicting. In fact, studies show that pot users develop behavioral patterns that are extremely difficult to break out of. Pot acts differently on the body than other drugs. It stores up in fat cells and releases very slowly. That's why you don't get your crazy "withdrawal" symptoms that apparently you feel are the necessary precursor to "addiction". Instead, pot can release very slowly over time. As such a long term user has a very subtle but strong craving for pot the never quite goes away. Because it stays in their system for so darn long. (And that's just the physiological side of the drug.)
The psychological aspects of pot addiction are also significant. An entire lifestyle is built around use. That lifestyle is extremely hard to break free of.
So, in that respect one must appreciate how difficult it would be for a young person like Martavis to shed his addiction. (And he IS addicted. This is also one of the major reasons that pot is NOT a harmless drug. While pot does have many beneficial effects for people, it also has quite a few negative aspects as well. Thus, pot really should NOT be legalized for recreational use. Medicinally, fine. A Dr. can certainly determine those cases were pot can help a patient and how it can best be administered.
Alcohol, ironically, while also a very dangerous drug has clearer signals of overuse and clears out of your system more quickly. Booze burns hot and quickly in the human metabolism. Good or bad, there it is. I won't argue that there are a great many traffic collisions caused by alcohol. Of course pot also causes traffic collisions, but there is less data regarding pot usage on the road as pot usage is only now becoming widely accepted. There will be more and more pot-related incidents now that the drug is becoming more publicly accepted.
But I digress. Am I disappointed in Byrant? Of course. Did I expect him to avoid issues with his pot addiction? Not at all. I was completely aware that he is a hopeless addict and that unless he sought out serious help he wasn't going to be able to resolve his addiction problems. Alcohol and pot addiction quite often go hand in hand with depression. I wouldn't be surprised if he IS depressed. Quite likely the pot is either coping mechanism or a causation. Either way, self-medicating is not the answer. If he's depressed he needs to seek the proper medical and psychiatric treatment ahead of time rather than offer the diagnosis as an excuse for his addiction issues. That merely comes off as the excuse it truly is.
Again, hard honesty is Bryant's only friend right now. I do believe the Steeler's should retain him, at minimum contract price. If somebody wants to sign him after his contract expires at a higher rate, super. Let them. In the meantime, I would recommend that the Steelers require Bryant to attend AA/NA meetings as a requirement of his contract weekly paychecks upon his return to the team and active practices and games. If he doesn't like it, he can go elsewhere. While he may consider that unfair, that would be the addiction talking. The kid needs help and he clearly can't provide it himself. He hasn't hit the bottom. I sincerely doubt the "check in to rehab" is anything more than a PR move to attempt to salvage what's left of his career at this point. If the Steelers truly wish to help him do so, they need to help him realize that THEY at least take his addiction situation seriously.
That's my opinion anyway. He is gifted, but that and .50 cents will buy him some coffee at his next AA meeting. And that's the cold hard truth from a fellow who grew up with two recovering alcoholic parents who didn't stop drinking until I was 7 or 8. You have to lose a whole lot before you realize your life is just too ****** to continue the way it is and that there's some stuff more important than today. Bryant needs some help focusing on a whole bunch of tomorrows down the line. A HUGE part of the problem is people telling him pot just isn't that big a deal.
Well, pretty clearly it's a pretty big ******* deal to Bryant.
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Great post!!!
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Wasn't really any other choice.
I was the exact opposite. Cigarettes was easy
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he should have gone with the chewbacca defense
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PFT has an interesting article about how AB potentially could use this as leverage to get a bigger contract
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...martavis-bryant-could-be-antonio-browns-gain/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...martavis-bryant-could-be-antonio-browns-gain/
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Interesting. I had strong physical cravings to smoke cigarettes, along with behavioral habits that were difficult to break. I never experienced either with Mary.
Were you a heavy tobacco user?
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Bryant gone for 1 yr. What? Another Bozo Pot Head wearing #10? Say it isn't so. Well, Sammy Coates, NEXT MAN UP! Hopefully AB doesn't have any lingering effects from that hit. Otherwise our pass game is going to be below average.
Chance to make millions and you just cant kick the weed....
Always has to be someone throwing the screws to a SB run....
Always has to be someone throwing the screws to a SB run....
I wasn't a chain smoker or anything.. just the usual after meals, when drinking alcohol, coffee, stressed. I could keep a pack for two days depending on who I was around lol. Friends mooch
Just goes to show you can take the kid out of the hood but you can't take the hood out of the kid. Hope that was some good **** considering the millions of dollars it has more than likely costed you. Cut him and move on. No way I would want someone that ******' stupid on my roster.
Kudos to Tomlin / Colbert (or Tombert) for planning for this by drafting Sammy Coates. Wouldn't it be GREAT if Coates makes us forget about Martavis?
P.S. Martavis is Chris Henry 2.0. Someone pointed out that they look alike.
P.S. Martavis is Chris Henry 2.0. Someone pointed out that they look alike.