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tapeANaspirin2it

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Combine started today. Just weigh ins for some of the players, mostly RB, OL and some QB.

The big news is possible top QB Jared Goff supposedly has very small hands. I haven't seen the number posted anywhere yet but multiple places are saying scouts said he had small hands even before a measurement. Goff had 23 fumbles at Cal and that's a lot. The small hands alone may be enough to drop him. Cold weather teams especially may back away.

Derrick Henry small hands at 8 3/4. The biggest RB at the combine has some of the smallest hands. Teams may see that as a fumble risk and hurt him as a receiver. Probably won't hurt his stock much though because he wasn't going to be a 1st rounder anyway and no team is taking him to be a receiver.

Ezekial Elliot measure with 10 1/4 mits which even further cements him as the best RB prospect by far in this draft.

Laremy Tunsil stays on top of OTs with long 34 1/4 arms

Jack Allen C- Mich State measures a short 32 1/4 arm length. That's going to hurt him

Le'Raven Clark OT Texas Tech is an athletic project. He measured 36 1/8 arm length. Somebody may role the dice on his upside higher than expected.
 
34 1/4 arms aren't that long for a tackle.

And 32 1/2 arms are fine for a center (AQ Shipley is still in the league with UNDER 30" arms). Interior pass protection is all about footwork and balance and awareness. Not arm length.

The guys on the outside have to protect the edge and nothing helps more than pushing guys wider than they want to go and their first 3 kick slide steps. That's what you watch on film. The first 3 steps.
 
34 1/4 is long enough that it's a positive and could make Tunsil the #1 pick. At this point the only thing that would drop Tunsil out of the top few picks is things like short arms or some other red flag measurement.

32 1/2 locks Allen into Center. Shipley was a late rounder because of his arm length. I'm not saying short arms means Allen can't make it, just that it will likely make him a late rounder.
 
I'd like to know who has the biggest balls and Johnsons at the positions. Is there any numbers on that? The Lord knows it takes big balls and a big slong to play this game full of A typical males. Lmk
 
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I don't know. All the talk of small hands in the original post....the women are not going to be happy.
 
deljzc said:
34 1/4 arms aren't that long for a tackle.

And 32 1/2 arms are fine for a center (AQ Shipley is still in the league with UNDER 30" arms). Interior pass protection is all about footwork and balance and awareness. Not arm length.

The guys on the outside have to protect the edge and nothing helps more than pushing guys wider than they want to go and their first 3 kick slide steps. That's what you watch on film. The first 3 steps.
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Agreed.
 
Marx said:
Any official measurements of head sizes?
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Haha,

Yes, they do measure them....for the helmets.

Personally, I think the Wonderlic matters a bit more.
 
While I do like the combine there is a part that can be very misleading.

Does anyone want to guess? I'll share the answer later. Hint-hint it not the interview or the Wonderlic. It's a number and players can influence it.
 
Coach said:
While I do like the combine there is a part that can be very misleading.

Does anyone want to guess? I'll share the answer later. Hint-hint it not the interview or the Wonderlic. It's a number and players can influence it.
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neck length? heads must be a certain distance away from shoulders.
 
Marx said:
Any official measurements of head sizes?
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Some things you can, and shouldn't, ever be able to live down.

I'm putting the Clady remark in that column, too.
 
Superman said:
neck length? heads must be a certain distance away from shoulders.
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No more DB's drafted under 5'10" regardless of neck length.

The Steelers seem to love drafting the vertically challenged DB's.

Now if we are talking arms, over 31" would be ideal.
 
I wonder if some sleaze would have a female combine, with measurements and drills, run in tights.
 
Litos said:
I'd help wih the drilling part
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First they weigh in. Then the body measurements. I'm thinking tape can help us there. Some of you guys are fixated on hand size. By default I get the head. Superman will make sure of that!
 
Coach said:
I wonder if some sleaze would have a female combine, with measurements and drills, run in tights.
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I'm in. I'm a TnA man so I'll handle those measurements and all the "Drills" that come with those departments :)
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
The big news is possible top QB Jared Goff supposedly has very small hands. I haven't seen the number posted anywhere yet but multiple places are saying scouts said he had small hands even before a measurement. Goff had 23 fumbles at Cal and that's a lot. The small hands alone may be enough to drop him..
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Coach said:
No more DB's drafted under 5'10" regardless of neck length.

The Steelers seem to love drafting the vertically challenged DB's.

Now if we are talking arms, over 31" would be ideal.
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Colbert all but said the Steelers don't care about length when it comes to cornerbacks. They want a guy who is capable of covering Antonio Brown (no one, right?), so they apparently focus on speed and quickness.
 
Coach said:
No more DB's drafted under 5'10" regardless of neck length.

The Steelers seem to love drafting the vertically challenged DB's.
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Last 5 drafts.
Curtis Brown 6'0
Cortez Allen 6'1
Terrance Frederick 5'10
Sharmako Thomas 5'9
Terry Hawthorne 6'0
Shaq Richardson 6'0
Doran Grant 5'10
Gerod Hollimon 6'0
Senquez Golson 5'8

That's nine DB's in the last 5 years and only two are under 5'10. Yet you claim the Steelers love drafting vertically challenged DB's?
 
Goff's hand officially measured 9 inches which is not red flag small. I was expecting to hear like 8 1/2 with the way it was described. You'd like your QB to have big 10 inch hands because it can be an advantage but 9 inches is not something a team should drastically change an opinion over.

Goff still has to explain why he had so many fumbles but his fumbles did decrease each season so maybe he did get coached up on it and made a change.

I was not a Goof fan. I am always wary of these spread QBs. It's just so easy for them. The reads are usually pre-defined. It's pitch and catch. Most of these QBs are way behind mentally.
 
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